Re: Alive?

1998-05-05 Thread Galen Hazelwood
James Troup wrote: Hi, Are you alive? I think Santiago is having evil ideas about hijacking packages. -- James I _am_ alive...just barely. Unfortunately, it looks like a) most of my mail for the past month ended up in the bit bucket, and b) I'm no longer going to have time to

Re: Policy wrt Important (was Re: dc and bc in Important?)

1997-06-25 Thread Galen Hazelwood
John Goerzen wrote: OK, then I suspect the policy is at fault. (BTW, I checked it out and I did find dc and bc on SunOS -- I had not known these programs were on other OSs.) By the current definition of Important: [snip] * lilo should not be there because lilo is not part of UNIX Now

Re: GCC cross-compilation

1997-06-24 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Jun 22, Galen Hazelwood wrote Hamish Moffatt wrote: Nope. What happens is most (single-cpu) developers upload the source and binaries for one architecture. Then helpful and nice developers who own other machines upload binaries for their cpu, built from

Re: Moving away from MD5

1997-06-24 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Thomas Koenig wrote: An attractive alternative would be RIPEMD-160. SHA-1, another alternative, has the main problem that its design parameters are secret. Source code for RIPEMD-160 is avialiable, and the algorithm is in the public domain. For more information, you can check out

Re: Bug: cross-device link

1997-06-24 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Mathieu Guillaume wrote: Package: cpp 2.7.2.2-5 This is the same kind of bug that was reported as #10753 (update-alternative). When I try to upgrade to this version, I get an error related to cross-device links (/lib/cpp is a symlink to /usr/bin/cpp, which is mounted on a different

Re: GCC cross-compilation

1997-06-24 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Mark Eichin wrote: Hmm. While there are *particular* problems doing 32-64 bit cross compilation, doing any 32-32 compilation is probably *quite* solid. (In particular, compilers targeting the 68k are probably *better* than the x86 native compiler -- because we've [we==Cygnus] actually had a

Re: Experiences with compiling Debian

1997-06-23 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Mark Baker wrote: g77: needs gcc source code to build Yes, but the alternative is for the source package to be much bigger than it needs to be. A better solution would be to merge the source packages. Perhaps you mean something else by the word merge, but, again, merged sources

Re: GCC cross-compilation

1997-06-23 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Michael Meskes wrote: Does this mean I could upload all architecture version for my packages? If so yes, I think it's useful. Michael Well, I personally distrust cross-compilers...at least gcc cross compilers. I know that at least one crossover (i386-alpha) has been known to produce

Re: Bug#10765: Need ncurses3.4?

1997-06-22 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Colin Plumb wrote: Package: info, tin Version: 3.9-5, 970613-2 Both of these packages depend on libc6 and ncurses3.4. I'm tracking hamm very closely, and have seen no sign of ncurses3.4. I haven't seen an ncurses version more recent than 1.9.9g, actually. Is there any particular

Re: GCC cross-compilation

1997-06-22 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Hamish Moffatt wrote: It occurred to me that since most of the Debian packages are also available for m68k and also Sparc and Alpha now, the develops are probably using cross-compilation, rather than actually owning all these machines. Nope. What happens

Re: Experiences with compiling Debian

1997-06-22 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Lars Wirzenius wrote: fileutils: calls msgfmt with wrong arguments No, you have the wrong msgfmt. :) {file,shell,text}utils require the gettext package to be installed in order to build properly. This package contains xmsgfmt, which formats text versions of translation files into

New ncurses packages

1997-06-12 Thread Galen Hazelwood
I've finally released an ncurses3.0 package for hamm, with an -altdev package for those of us on mixed-library machines. I've put it into my home directory on master, hopefully to be joined RSN by ncurses3.4 for libc6. As soon as both of them are up and (seemingly) running, I'll put them in

Re: who is working on ncurses ?

1997-06-10 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: who is working on ncurses ? I was about to start. :) i made ncurses 4.1 for local use and could upload it right now (ok, it's revoked). it would only take me a few hours to downgrade to the latest ncurses 1.9.9g IIRC, and a few more to create a altdev package.

Re: Debian ncurses policy ?

1997-06-09 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Vincent Renardias wrote: it's good idea, but since ncurses is orphaned this won't help for this package. Is the libc6 maintainer opposed to maintain ncurses as a libc6 add-on (Or si someone willing to adopt ncurses)? I'm thinking of adopting ncurses, and might prepare a temporary libc6

Re: libc6 utmp and wtmp [Was: Re: official C library]

1997-06-06 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Johnie Ingram wrote: Am I correct in thinking the major players to be synchronized here are shellutils (who), sysvinit (last), netstd (rsh), login, ppp, procps, wu-ftpd, and ssh? Add xbase (xdm) and you've pretty much got it covered. --Galen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST:

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On 1 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote: I believe libc5.so is LGPL... I don't. /usr/doc/libc5//copyright doesn't *mention* the LGPL *at all*, though the libc6 one mentions both. Yep, the copyright file does not mention the LGPL at all. This seems to me to be

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-06-02 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Rob Browning wrote: Galen Hazelwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it also chooses some instructions differently for a 486, and these choices are also good on the pentium. That's why, when building binaries for my use, I use -m486 but add flags which turn off the alignment

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-06-01 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Christian Schwarz wrote: On Thu, 29 May 1997, Galen Hazelwood wrote: (Don't ask me what the historical reasons are, though. I might start to whimper...) Sorry, but I couldn't resist :-) What are the reasons? I don't know. That's why I whimper... If we make this policy, we should

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-06-01 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Brian White wrote: I wasn't aware that the Z-machine knowledge had changed in the past half-dozen years or so. The infocom program handles all the games I've ever tried with it, so I don't see why it is obsolete. Oh, it works fine in normal cases. But we now understand certain obscure v5 and

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-06-01 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Raul Miller wrote: On May 31, Galen Hazelwood wrote Perhaps. Anybody have any serious arguments? I think the reason we configure gcc as i486 is so it automatically optimizes for the 486; it's a good middle ground. If I remember right, configuring for pentium leaves an executable

Re: Infocom Games (Was: long list of give away or orphaned packages)

1997-06-01 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Ben Pfaff wrote: Just butting in on this thread to ask a question. Is there a de-compiler for Infocom games? Would such a de-compiler produce readable source code? Just a thought... (I know nothing about the Infocom game language or the binary format.) Check out txd in the ztools package.

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-06-01 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Guy Maor wrote: I think the only optimization gcc 2.7.* does for i486 is instruction alignment. The Pentium has a better fetch unit so doesn't need any alignment (it never incurs a misfetch penalty) so optimizing for i486 will at least give some code bloat. I think it also chooses some

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-06-01 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Mark Eichin wrote: yeah, cygwin32.dll is under the GPL. So? It's a DLL, like libc5 and libc6 are... [the *only* thing I'm aware of that actually uses the LGPL is libg++; it was as much of an experiment as anything, and I'm not aware of any not-otherwise-free software taking advantage of

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Mark Eichin wrote: I just brought this up, since it was my understanding that if you want to write a commercial program (ie. not under the GPL), and link it against cygwin.dll, you've got to pay Cygnus $$$. Not all that different than the restrictions on Qt, really. Two questions:

Re: ncurses back on hold...

1997-05-30 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Michael Alan Dorman wrote: RMS has stepped in. I can't quite decide if that's likely to foster resolution or small-arms usage. Stepped in on whose side? --Galen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL

Re: ncurses package orphaned...

1997-05-30 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Michael Alan Dorman wrote: Debian developers: ESR has, IMHO, decided to start a pissing match about ncurses development. I have no desire to participate or watch. My frank recommendation is that we ditch ncurses entirely, go back to BSD curses and termcap and encourage authors of free

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-05-29 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Christian Schwarz wrote: Next step: GNU's configure utility. I thought that we had agreed on using i386-unknown-linux (and similar for the other architectures), but then I had just discovered that GCC uses /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-26 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Thomas Koenig wrote: I just spent an interesting afternoon trying to upgrade a 1.1 system to 1.3. First, /var/lib/dpkg/available was corrupted because of some incorrect values in the Version - field (somehow they had gotten to the format of 1:1-2 or similar; bug report submitted). I

Re: ObjC runtime (was: Upcoming Debian Releases)

1997-05-21 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Include the multi-thread support patch for the Objective-C runtime lib (???) bo includes gstep-base-0.2.12 and gstep-base-0.2.12 includes a patch file gcc-2.7.2.1-objc.diff, which therefore should be applied to the gcc in bo (the patch applies fine to gcc-2.7.2.2).