Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

2007-04-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 03:01:41PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Neil Williams: > > > Which are the offending libraries? > > Botan, Crypto++, BouncyCastle, a few Perl-related packages. Openssl's README.Debian contains: Some algorithms used in the library are covered by patents. As a result,

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 09:24:38PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:49:19PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > > > Actually, I've considered adding hardware reporting to popcon, using a > > separate question (or more options, not sure which), and hardware > > reports do

Re: Linux/Debian documentation suggestion

2007-04-18 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 05:10:20PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > > *If I want or need command xxzz, which packages can give me that? > > You'll need to explore the packages website. You mean the search page on packages.debian.org called "Search the contents of packages"? Which just like apt

Re: Bug#388701: Why Beryl has just four packages?

2007-04-22 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:55:30AM -0500, Shawn Starr wrote: > On Wednesday 14 February 2007 00:27, Anibal Avelar wrote: > > Hi. I see you have in queue NEW three packages: beryl-plugins, > > beryl-settings and emerald [1] and not ready (yet) beryl. > > Firstly, the beryl packages were REJECTED b

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-22 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 04:40:45PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 22-Apr-07, 16:22 (CDT), Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Because segfaults are often not easily reproduced. Having the ability to > > analyse a crash that occured when the user did not have the -dbg > > package

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-22 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 11:15:36PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > If there are concerns over archive size, why don't we drop all static > .a libraries at the same time. Given that in Debian we typically > always link dynamically, is there a need for .a libraries in all but a > handful of cases? D

Re: Bug#422423: ITP: libtool-cvs -- Generic library support script - CVS snapshot

2007-05-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 11:06:44AM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > >> Version : 2.1a (2007-04-10) > >> Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> * URL : http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/ > >> * License : GPL > >> Programming Lang: Shell > >> Description : Gene

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-05-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 01:02:17PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 12:32:37AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 11:15:36PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > > > > If there are concerns over archive size, why don't we drop

Re: Bug#422423: ITP: libtool-cvs -- Generic library support script - CVS snapshot

2007-05-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:18:57PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > 2007/5/7, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >* Mike Hommey: > > > >> Why not package this as libtool and upload to experimental ? > > > >It would be impossible to build-depend on it. This may or may not be > >a good thing. >

Re: Bug#424844: ITP: ircservices -- Nick/channel/other services for IRC networks

2007-05-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 11:59:41AM +0100, Tim Retout wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Tim Retout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: ircservices > Version : 5.1pre1 > Upstream Author : Andrew Church <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.irc

Re: Bug#424844: ITP: ircservices -- Nick/channel/other services for IRC networks

2007-05-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:04:21PM +0100, Tim Retout wrote: > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 13:41 +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > Several, according to the table at: > http://www.ircservices.za.net/download/testing/docs/2.html#1 > > I've tested with ircd-hybrid, but it should also do

Re: [Help] AMD64 specific bug on libblitz0 (#424644)

2007-05-18 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 10:31:52AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > On 2007-05-18 Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to ask kindly for support regarding bug #424644 because > > I do not own any amd64 and thus feel unable to solve this problem. > > > Any hints / patches? > >

Re: Intention to drop sparc32 support for Lenny

2007-05-21 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 09:58:00AM -0700, Joe Buck wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 12:00:24PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > The sparc32 port has been struggling for some time. Last month Jurij > > Smakov, currently the most active Debian Sparc porter, raised the question > > if support sparc32 sho

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 07:55:28PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Wed, Jun 6, 2007 at 17:50:26 +, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > Just as better alternative IMHO, please consider using `eu-readelf -ds` > > from elfutils. > > elfutils isn't build-essential. binutils is, and does the job, so "it's

Re: Archive rebuild with improved dpkg-shlibdeps

2007-06-21 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:59:53AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > Lucas just rebuilt the archive with my new dpkg-shlibdeps and the symbols > file that I provided him > (http://people.debian.org/~hertzog/symbols.tar.bz2) and that I > auto-generated. > > The resulting Packages file is

Re: transition of packages into testing

2007-06-22 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:29:32PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > Another criterion is that it's built on all the architectures the > previous version in testing is built on. It seems it's missing builds on ^^^ That should be unstable. Anyway, the list of reasons why

Re: Build the Debian Reference Card

2007-07-24 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 05:53:37PM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 24.07.2007, 14:13 +0100 schrieb Neil Williams: > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:33:04 +0100 (BST) > > "Paul Cager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Has anyone any advice on how to build the Reference

Re: proposed release goal: DEBIAN/md5sums for all packages

2007-08-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 10:12:07AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It strikes me that if we want to make it policy, having dpkg generate > > the checksums upon creating the .deb would be the simplest and best way > > to do it. This way we wouldn't have

Re: proposed release goal: DEBIAN/md5sums for all packages

2007-08-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 11:25:38AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> Some packages (aspell and ispell packages in particular) ship files > >> that they then modify in maintainer scripts and intentionally exclude > >> them from the md5sums file for that reason. lintian has special code > >> to dea

Re: proposed release goal: DEBIAN/md5sums for all packages

2007-08-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 01:27:45AM +0200, Sven Mueller wrote: > > The hash file, which is architecture dependend, is created on install. > > This is the only file in the package that is architecture dependend. > > If it is created on install, why is it in the packages filelist in the > first place

Re: proposed release goal: DEBIAN/md5sums for all packages

2007-08-18 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 03:13:32AM +0200, Sven Mueller wrote: > > He doesn't give any information _why_ this complicates packaging that > much, while his decision imposes additional work and complexity on > others (be it the exception in lintian and probably linda or the > difference between "dpkg

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, news and difference between archs

2007-08-22 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 03:19:02PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > 2/ Second example, libconfig0 has a supplementary symbols [...] > _PROCEDURE_LINKAGE_TABLE_ on sparc and alpha. I don't know where it comes > from. > Is this a internal symbols that I missed? http://www.cygwin.com/ml/binu

Re: US mirror troubles

2007-09-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 09:24:24AM -0400, Johan Kullstam wrote: > > Using "host" from bind9-host, > $ host http.us.debian.org > http.us.debian.org has address 128.101.240.212 > http.us.debian.org has address 204.152.191.7 > http.us.debian.org has address 35.9.37.225 > http.us.debian.org has addres

Re: US mirror troubles

2007-09-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 04:19:51PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > See http://bugs.debian.org/438179 > > This bug was closed by adding a config option. Why wasn't it cloned to > all the network clients (apt, ntp, etc) that exhibit undesirable > beha

Re: volatile.debian.org: Does Debian still support it?

2007-09-25 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 05:36:03PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > It's not about one timezone. The new release refresh all available > timezones. The whole package was synced with the latest Olson > database. It would be good if you fixed #416206, and used tzdata yourself. So that we only need

Re: volatile.debian.org: Does Debian still support it?

2007-09-25 Thread Kurt Roeckx
be used on other systems that don't have tzdata doesn't mean it shouldn't try and use tzdata if it's available on Debian. The binary data in the tzdata should be easy to parse. See man tzfile(5). > 2007/9/25, Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Tue, Sep 25,

Re: Conflicting bsdmainutils and bsdutils on mipsel and sparc auto-builders

2007-10-02 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 10:41:08AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering how to cope with the following problem: The auto-building > of the wordnet package failed on mipsel and sparc with: > > ... > Unpacking bsdmainutils (from .../bsdmainutils_6.1.7_sparc.deb) ... > dpkg: error proce

Re: Bits from the listmasters

2007-10-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 01:44:47PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > How to help listmasters against spam > > >* If you notice a spam in the list archives, press the 'Report As > Spam'-Button. I don't see such a button on the list archives. I only s

Re: Bits from the listmasters

2007-10-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 08:15:58PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ti, 2007-10-09 kello 18:33 +0200, Kurt Roeckx kirjoitti: > > On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 01:44:47PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > How to help listma

Bug#446030: RFA: kbd -- Linux console font and keytable utilities

2007-10-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 02:10:37AM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: normal > > [Please add me to your CC list.] > > I request an adopter for the "kbd" package. > > Actually it was never my intention to maintain "kbd", but its > maintainer was the group "Console utilities

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 08:48:02PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > Hi Ian, > * Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-15 19:59]: > > Nico Golde writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team"): > > > Yes, dpkg for example links statically against libbz2 and zlib just to > > > pick a famous example.

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 09:08:06PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 08:48:02PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > * Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-15 19:59]: > > > Nico Golde writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team&quo

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 02:26:29PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > George Danchev wrote: > > Then comes even more, even Ben Laurie (as he writes in > > his blog) with all his aggression missed to find the debian's pkg-openssl > > VCS > > repo [1] unless he has been helped by someone at some point. I'm

Re: Please focus on one generic spell checker in Debian (Was: Bug#487732: O: ispell -- International Ispell (an interactive spelling corrector))

2008-06-25 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 08:49:20PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Given the limitations of ispell, I would instead urge us all to > migrate all our packages to use for example hunspell and drop ispell > completely from the distribution. It would be a lot easier to > maintain a dictionary i

Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-05 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 02:42:27AM -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > For discussion: > > Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are the the top three desktops used in debian and > cover most users of desktops in debian. > > They all use xdg .desktop-based menus as their main menu. You already opened a bug against

Re: correct definition of localhost?

2008-07-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 03:09:09PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've run across an ipv4/ipv6 configuration issue which I think needs to have > light cast on it so we can try to resolve this in time for lenny (whatever > the right resolution actually is), in order to avoid a pile-up

Re: correct definition of localhost?

2008-07-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 05:14:44PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:39:37AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > You don't seem to request ipv4 addresses, you request AF_UNSPEC, which > > should get you both ipv4 and ipv6. You get 127.0.0.1 twic

Re: /proc and build environments

2008-09-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:43:40AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > This is probably a FAQ, and I guess I knew the answer at one point. > What are the requirements for /proc and buildds? Can packages assume > that /proc/self/stat exist in a buildd environment? There are packages that require it. I

Re: Chdir to / in cron job for selinux

2008-12-01 Thread Kurt Roeckx
> > reassign 261213 ntp > Bug#261213: ntp-server: Chdir to / in cron job for selinux I don't see why you reassign it back to the ntp package. I'm not sure what you think has changed that it should be reassigned. I'm also not sure why it got cloned in the first place. We still need a general way

Re: NEW processing

2008-12-04 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 09:50:04AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > As you can see, there are short times where the buildds for one arch > have problem keeping up with the load, but that's often caused by : > - one of the buildds being temporarily unavailable > - one of the buildds building a very bi

Re: The firmware GR

2008-12-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:36:50AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't think d-d-a is meant to be used as a forum, but since others are > doing so, I guess it's fine if I join. > > > With these hopefully solid plans in place for the release, we feel the > > need to acknowledge that t

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 02:34:36PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Nico Golde writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team"): > > quoting Adam Heath from #debian-devel: > > Thanks for passing that on. > > > 2007-10-15 18:07 dpkg's configure has an option for using > > s

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 03:00:55PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Indeed on modern multicore systems running the decompression in a > > > separate process allows it to be run on a separate CPU, in parallel to > > > the other processing done by dpkg proper. So it might be faster. > > > > > > (I ha

Re: Ambiguous build-dependencies

2007-10-27 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 06:50:55PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > I've been working on getting my automatic package tester working. > It's currently running but I've redirected its automatic bug > submission emails to me, while I make sure that the bugs it reports > are correct. > > One common proble

Re: Mandatory support for -nocheck in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-11-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 05:47:17PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > > Making the last stage optional means that -nocheck achieves nothing, > IMHO. If the maintainer chooses to allow 'make check' during the build, > I believe that Policy should stipulate that the maintainer must ensure > that 'make ch

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 01:04:48PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE=$(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) > DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=$(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) > > Depending on whether the package uses ./configure: > ifneq ($(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE),$(DEB_BUILD_GN

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 10:50:51PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > AFAIK there's nothing to be fixed here. If you specify both --build and > > --host, autoconf sees this as a request for cross-compiling. Of course, > > invoking the native compiler as a cross-compiler should /generally/ give the > >

Re: Consistent handling of the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-11-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 05:49:11PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: > > As I see what Neil wrote, nocheck (I prefer this over notest) affects > only testsuite. As for *handling* packages that run compiled code during > build.. well that's the reason why scratchbox was invented :) I'm confused about how

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-11 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:24:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Wouter Verhelst: > > > > That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The > > > update frequency of that repository (which is available onl

Re: Early adopters of symbol based dependencies needed

2007-11-22 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 01:20:33PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > With debhelper 5.0.61, dh_makeshlibs will also call dpkg-gensymbols if it > > finds debian/.symbols (or debian/.symbols.). So > > for packages using debhelper, the only thing to do is to drop the right > > symbo

Re: Injecting versions of build-deps in the deps

2007-12-02 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 05:11:52PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > > An example would be package foobar3 build-depending on libfoo3 (>= > 2.10.2). When built against libfoo3 2.12.0-2 which provides a symbols > file, the resulting binaries need symbols from libfoo3 (>= 2.8.7) (as > the symbols fil

Re: -Wl,--as-needed considered possibly harmful

2007-12-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 07:23:00PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Hi, > > Le dimanche 09 décembre 2007 à 19:11 +0100, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > > Just curing the symptoms instead of the problems will not help to get > > there any sooner. > > What if there is no problem? > > For example, pkg

Re: -Wl,--as-needed considered possibly harmful

2007-12-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 12:45:46AM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > Ok, let's consider another very simple case: > > libshout allows to perform streaming of speex, vorbis, and theora formats. > > > > Hence, when asking for the libs to link with, you got -lspeex and -ltheora > > since it's n

Re: Writing shlibs for unversioned libraries

2007-12-30 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 12:59:50PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > Il giorno Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:48:33 +0100 > Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > You could change the build system to make libgthumb.la a convenience > > library (if it is using libtool), so that gthumb gets linked to

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-02 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:17:24PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Hello all, > > I've written a script which tries to detect packages which should be > architecture all based on the fact that they don't contain a Depends field. Your list seems to contain alot of packages that do have a Depends

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-02 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:38:32PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Hello Kurt, > > Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:17:24PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I've written a script which tries to detect pack

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-02 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:58:24PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > Just to clarify to everybody, the list was screwed up by dd-list (my bad, > didn't see the '-b' option part). Thanks to Adeodato for pointing that out. > So, here's the list of binary packages (attachment is dd-list -u again).

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-02 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 09:11:40PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 08:04:44PM +, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 07:58:24PM +, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >libgss-dbg (U) > > >shishi-dbg (U) > > > > r

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-02 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 09:39:17PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Raphael Geissert a écrit : > > Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > > >> On 02/01/2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > >>> Though after a second thought, -dbg should probably not have empty > >>> Depends line. > >> After a third thought, I still

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 12:01:17AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > # use SIGCONT/signal 18 to check if there are > # processes left. No need to check the exit code > # value, because either killall5 work and it make > # sense t

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 12:16:28AM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 12:01:17AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > > > # use SIGCONT/signal 18 to check if there are > > # processes left. No need t

Re: Bug#459403: libuuid1: missing depends on non-essential package passwd

2008-01-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 03:23:23AM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > > So e2fsprogs which is "Essential: yes" depends on libuuid1, so > libuuid1 is effectively "Essential: yes", right? So if I add a > dependency on passwd, it will effectively make passwd "Essential: > yes", as well It's not because a

Openssl in experimental: please test.

2008-02-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
Hi, I've uploaded openssl 0.9.8g-6 to experimental. It adds support for TLS extensions. This changes some structs in the public header files causing ABI changes. I believe those are harmless and shouldn't cause any problems. But I'd like some people to test it before I upload this to unstable.

Re: Openssl in experimental: please test.

2008-02-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:30:07PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:54:26 +0100, Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >I've uploaded openssl 0.9.8g-6 to experimental. It adds support for TLS > >extensions. > > Does this incl

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 01:08:39PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > > I just try with host: > cdn.debian.net is an alias for deb.cdn.araki.net. > deb.cdn.araki.net has address 61.115.118.67 > deb.cdn.araki.net has address 133.5.166.3 > deb.cdn.araki.net has address 133.5.166.3 > deb.cdn.araki.net ha

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 03:35:08PM +0100, Leo costela Antunes wrote: > [No need to CC me, I'm subscribed. Keeping the other CCs since I don't > know about their subscription status.] > > Hi > > ARAKI Yasuhiro wrote: > > I announce I start cdn.debian.net. > > You could have announced work on th

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:50:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > AHAHAHAHAHA I totally missed that part in the first read. You're > totally on crack. Under C, NULL is defined as (void *)0 > (and *NOT* (char *)0 that is TOTALLY wrong for obvious reasons), and > "someone" is not going to #defi

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:34:48PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:21:47PM +0000, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:50:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > > > AHAHAHAHAHA I totally missed that part in the first re

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:48:41PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > 6.3.2.3 Pointers > [...] > 3 An integer constant expression with the value 0, or >such an expression cast to type void *, is called a null >pointer constant.55) If a null pointer constant is assigned

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 01:37:29PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > "Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080315 21:12]: > >> $ cat /srv/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject/rhinote_0.7.0-2_i386.reason > >> Rejected: md5sum and/or size mismatch on ex

Re: s390 buildd?

2008-03-18 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 09:09:41PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Similar the ia64 buildd admin, see #464932. Or is there anything I could > >> do myself about this? > > > > Hmm, you do realise that lcd4linux is mentioned in P-a-s because it > > inclu

Re: Default value for CFLAGS/LDFLAGS set by dpkg

2008-03-31 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 05:34:05PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > (moving to debian-devel as requested by Kurt) > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > > However, as Thiemo notes, this does break the expectation that LD_PRELOAD > > will be allowed to intercept symbols; so this is definitel

Re: Default value for CFLAGS/LDFLAGS set by dpkg

2008-03-31 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 04:21:14PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I also have to wonder that if we have something like this as default, > > why -Bsymbolic-functions would be a good default, and not -Bsymbolic. > > I

Re: Building with -msse

2008-04-27 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 07:05:17PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > gnubg supports optionally building with SSE support for increased speed in > the analytical engine. I have to date kept this disabled to not generate > binaries that might not run on all otherwise-supported Debian systems. > > Howeve

Re: Building with -msse

2008-04-27 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 04:06:40PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If you want to have different optimizations depending on the cpu, > > there are a two options I know of: > > - When you hace shared libraries you can p

Re: S/390 buildd reconfiguration --> problem fix

2004-10-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 06:25:33AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Unfortunately this changed the kernel architecture from s390 to s390x. > This in turn has the potential to break older configure scripts. May I suggest that you use the linux32 util? It should change the returned uname -r from s

Re: Synching mirrors and clients (was: Re: apt-proxy v2 and rsync)

2004-11-04 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 05:46:55PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: > > Now if you feel advantous, repack as many package on the source mirror > with gzip --rsyncable and notice the difference. Exactly how is this going to help? I can only see this as being useful when the files change. Files should nev

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 08:29:16PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The problem is not the autobuilder infrastructure per se. It is that > > testing and unstable are largely in sync (!). This, combinded with the > > fact that testing must not

Re: For people more knowledgeable about buildds...

2005-01-04 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 10:13:11PM +1100, Andrew Pollock wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a webpage that shows the current queue of packages in Needs-Build > state? igloo's pages are great, but they only let you know the position in > the queue of a package, not what's before or after it (out of curiosit

Re: package building problems (was Re: Canonical and Debian)

2005-06-08 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 08:11:46PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote: > > > > >4) buildd software issues(pbuild,sbuild,wanna-build,etc) > > > > It looks like this software could use some redesign to put less work > > > on the buildd maintainers and scale better to more buildds. > > > Do you have some

Re: Orphaning packages

2005-06-18 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 11:08:28PM +0200, Ivo Timmermans wrote: > Hi, > > I'm orphaning these packages: > > dutch (bug #314839) > > dutch should probably be adopted by someone who speaks Dutch. I'm willing to adopt this package is nobody else wants it. Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [E

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:52:07PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > The only time I've ever removed entries from > known_hosts is when I know that a specific host's key has changed, and > 'ssh-keygen -R' deals with that just fine. That options seems to be undocumented. It's not in the man page or the

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2. The information of -dev packages depending on other -dev packages > > > cannot be automatically determined currently; > > > it should be possible to obtain a minimal list by analyzing the > > > NEEDED field of the objdump output. > > > > Errr, -

Re: The BTS and bug subscriptions

2005-07-23 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 06:11:14PM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote: > > It is now possible to subscribe and unsubscribe from individual bugs in > the Bug Tracking System. To do so, simply send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED], or [EMAIL PROTECTED], where > nnn is the bug number you wish to {,un}subscribe

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

2005-08-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:28:58AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:01:16AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > mini rant: what's the point in breaking important packages in > > unstable for significant periods (e.g. the bug above was filed > > 2005/07/13)? Isn't experimental

Re: Please notify your rdepends' maintainers if you break an interface

2005-08-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 06:33:59PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > apt-rdepends > > Interesting, but not useful for the case I had today: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-rdepends --build-depends --reverse foo > E: Reverse build-dependencies are not

Re: dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path

2005-08-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 01:34:56PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > For the past week, I've started getting errors like the following when > building any packages in pbuilder that include shared libraries with the > current tool chain in unstable: > > dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for l

Re: order of builds on a buildd: icu (optional/libs)

2005-08-19 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 05:46:19PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:40:30PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > > > Based on what I've seen in other threads, the order in which packages > > get built on a buildd is a function of, among perhaps other factors, > > its priority an

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-25 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:47:17PM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > The immediate suspect is binutils, particularily ld. It might be > interesting to do test compiles with an older binutils version > (2.15 vs. 2.16?) and see if the problem is reproducible. The package in question was already build us

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-25 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:21:07AM +0200, Stephane Chauveau wrote: > > I am not really surprised because I just compared the linker scripts > from 2.15 and 2.16. > They have a different section ordering and the official debian package > clearly follows the 2.16 ordering. Also, there was no diffe

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 10:25:15AM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > > I checked the content of the .data section in libgtk and the > > unexpected data appears to be composed of all exported > > symbols aligned to a multiple of 16. Obviously a symbol > > table of some kind. > > The whole thing sound

Re: architecture-specific release criteria - requalification needed

2005-09-22 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 06:45:35PM +0930, Debian-armeb Porting Team wrote: > > We *really* need to be hooked into the buildd system to be able to > automatically build the rest of the stable, testing and unstable > releases. This is our top-most priority, and we hope to get help on > this point f

Bug#142164: Packages files should be in UTF-8

2005-09-30 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 11:32:13PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > reassign 142164 general > thanks > > Hi, > > Just because a topic has been discussed on the policy > discussion list is not reason enough to assign the bug to > policy. Note that bug has been reassigned to the policy

Re: Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.

2005-10-01 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 03:05:08PM +0200, Riccardo Setti wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Riccardo Setti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: cinelerra-cvs > Version : 2.0-cvs > Upstream Author : > * URL : http://www.example.org/ > * License

Re: dh_libtool proposal (-dev dependencies on -dev from libtool)

2005-10-05 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 05:44:02PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > > The proposal is to have this program populate a substvar named > ${libtool:Depends}. I've studied this problem at a cursory level, and > this is what I currently intend to do: > > * Traverse the directory to be installed for .l

Re: Bug#332498: RFH: openssl -- Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools

2005-10-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:07:01PM +0200, Christoph Martin wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: normal > > > I request assistance with maintaining the openssl package. > > I am currently the only maintainer, but this package really needs a > team to work on it. Too many packages depend on the libr

Re: There are buildlogs for amd64 packages?

2005-10-21 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 09:20:52PM +0200, Erik Schanze wrote: > Hi, > > there can I find the build log for dvgrab_1.7-1 on amd64? > > http://buildd.debian.org/ doesn't list amd64 at all and > http://amd64.ftbfs.de/ has only 1.8-1 and higher. Only buildd logs since about May 2005 are available on

Re: Dependencies of -dev packages

2005-10-21 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 09:16:01PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > - Make pkg-config mandatory. pkg-config can already handle the case that > different libraries are needed for static and shared linking. > pkg-config also helps the second problem (conflicting -dev packages), > see below Pretty

Re: Dependencies of -dev packages

2005-10-24 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 02:03:51PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 07:15:38PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > 3D > > Pretty please don't suggest that unless you first fix pkg-config. > > It's always linking in the libraries required for stati

Re: Dependencies of -dev packages

2005-10-24 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 05:20:16PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > > > > $ pkg-config --libs a > > > -la -lb > > ^^^ > > > > It should not link to libb if you only request it to link to > > liba. liba should have a DT_NEEDED for libb, and the linker > > should find the symb

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