pcre2 10.43-1 uploaded to experimental

2024-02-17 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, I've just uploaded version 10.43-1 of pcre2 to experimental. There are quite a few changes from 10.42, summarised by upstream in NEWS: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/pcre2/-/blob/master/NEWS I'll do an upload to unstable in due course, assuming no show-stoppers are found :) Regards, M

Re: /usr-move: Do we support upgrades without apt?

2023-12-21 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, On 21/12/2023 09:41, Helmut Grohne wrote: Is it ok to call upgrade scenarios failures that cannot be reproduced using apt unsupported until we no longer deal with aliasing? I incline towards "no"; if an upgrade has failed part-way (as does happen), people may then reasonably use dpkg dir

Re: Linking coreutils against OpenSSL

2023-11-10 Thread Matthew Vernon
Luca Boccassi writes: > On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 at 22:54, Benjamin Barenblat wrote: >> What would you think about having coreutils Depend on libssl3? This >> would make the libssl3 package essential, which is potentially >> undesirable, but it also has the potential for serious user time savings >>

Re: Policy consensus on transition when removing initscripts.

2023-07-03 Thread Matthew Vernon
Andreas Henriksson writes: > If you want me to take suggestions like coordination seriously then > please consider adressing https://bugs.debian.org/934463 soon or admit > that sysvinit maintenance lacks the resources to do coordinated > transitions. Dropping things and letting people pick them u

Re: Proposed MBF - removal of pcre3 by Bookworm

2023-07-03 Thread Matthew Vernon
Alastair McKinstry writes: >> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 08:55:11PM +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote: >>> Bookworm is now out; I will shortly be increasing the severity of >>> the outstanding bugs to RC, with the intention being to remove >>> src:pcre3 from Debian

Re: Proposed MBF - removal of pcre3 by Bookworm

2023-06-29 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, On 13/11/2021 11:41, Matthew Vernon wrote: TL;DR> pcre3 is obsolete and upstream don't want to fix it any more. I propose a MBF to track our progress in getting rid of it for Bookworm Bookworm is now out; I will shortly be increasing the severity of the outstanding bugs to RC,

Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-06-22 Thread Matthew Vernon
Marco d'Itri writes: > On Jun 22, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > >> The point has always been to ship some ifupdown-supported DHCP client >> by default. This can be done either by keeping the default client's >> priority to important or by making ifupdown Depends on one. I prefer >> the later. > I

Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-06-20 Thread Matthew Vernon
Ansgar writes: > I think this should be NetworkManager for desktop environments and I > personally like systemd-networkd for other environments. In both cases > these replace both ifupdown and isc-dhcp-client. We might be using slightly different terms, but for desktops I still tend to use ifupd

Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg

2023-05-26 Thread Matthew Vernon
On 26/05/2023 09:24, Luca Boccassi wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 08:39, Matthew Vernon wrote: Consider: it is consistent to believe that it would have been better for dpkg not to have had that warning added (quite some time ago now), but that by now most derivatives that care will likely

Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg

2023-05-26 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, On 26/05/2023 07:03, Ansgar wrote: On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 14:36 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Ansgar writes: Debian going out of its way to tell derivative users to switch back from merged-/usr to split-/usr is the *opposite* of trying to make things as smooth for them as possible. Yes, I a

Re: Upgrade package from init script to Systemd, move config folder

2023-04-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, Perry Naseck writes: > I am in the process of updating/upgrading a package from an init.d service > to a Systemd service. Are there any recommended guidelines for this process? > > Looking through some current packages I see that a lot of them have both an > init script and a Systemd service

Bug#1025474: ITP: golang-github-jcmturner-rpc.v2 -- Remote Procedure Call libraries for golang

2022-12-05 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon Control: block 1001261 by -1 Control: block 1024445 by -1 X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org * Package name: golang-github-jcmturner-rpc.v2 Version : 2.0.3-1 Upstream Author : Jonathan

Bug#1025473: ITP: golang-github-jcmturner-goidentity.v6 -- Golang library for managing identities

2022-12-05 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon Control: block 1001261 by -1 Control: block 1024445 by -1 X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org * Package name: golang-github-jcmturner-goidentity.v6 Version : 6.0.1-1 Upstream Author

Bug#1025471: ITP: golang-github-jcmturner-dnsutils.v2 -- Golang library of DNS utilities

2022-12-05 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon Control: block 1001261 by -1 Control: block 1024445 by -1 X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org * Package name: golang-github-jcmturner-dnsutils.v2 Version : 2.0.0-1 Upstream Author

Bug#1025470: ITP: golang-github-jcmturner-aescts.v2

2022-12-05 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon Control: block 1001261 by -1 Control: block 1024445 by -1 X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org * Package name: golang-github-jcmturner-aescts.v2 Version : 2.0.0-1 Upstream Author : Jonathan

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-21 Thread Matthew Vernon
Bastian Blank writes: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 01:08:59PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> can we find a middleground where the git workflows don't require staying >> with 1.0? Even if that means switching to 3.0 (quilt) using the >> single-debian-patch approach? > > Well. There is a specific so

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-15 Thread Matthew Vernon
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 10:49:17AM +0000, Matthew Vernon wrote: >> but even if it were, is that an entirely unreasonable position for a >> package maintainer (or team thereof) to take? > Probably not? Just yet another case where you need t

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-15 Thread Matthew Vernon
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 08:54:50AM +0000, Matthew Vernon wrote: >> It's probably unfashionable, but I think debian/patches is not a great >> way to manage changes, particularly if you're using a VCS for >> maintaining your packages. As

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-15 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, Lucas Nussbaum writes: [bit late to this thread; came here when I got some MBF bugs and saw "make them Severity: serious..." in the linked mail. I think in this case use of source format 1.0 isn't against policy, _shouldn't_ be against policy (or at least, not in all cases), and that de fact

Re: Proposed MBF - removal of pcre3 by Bookworm

2021-11-13 Thread Matthew Vernon
Matthew Vernon writes: > User: matthew-pcre...@lists.debian.org Sigh, always one typo gets through. That should be: User: matthew-pcre...@debian.org Regards, Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True. I just wish I'd brought a paddle." http://www.debian.org

Proposed MBF - removal of pcre3 by Bookworm

2021-11-13 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, TL;DR> pcre3 is obsolete and upstream don't want to fix it any more. I propose a MBF to track our progress in getting rid of it for Bookworm PCRE is the perl-compatible regular expression library, https://pcre.org/ For historical reasons, the old PCRE library ended up as libpcre3 in Debi

Re: pcre2 10.35 (now 10.36) uploaded to experimental

2020-12-07 Thread Matthew Vernon
Matthew Vernon writes: > I've uploaded 10.35-1 of pcre2 to experimental; I'll upload -2 to > unstable next weekend if there aren't any show-stoppers in the mean > time. > > We may yet see 10.36 out in time for it to get into bullseye (upstream > have an RC), b

pcre2 10.35 uploaded to experimental

2020-11-27 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, I've uploaded 10.35-1 of pcre2 to experimental; I'll upload -2 to unstable next weekend if there aren't any show-stoppers in the mean time. We may yet see 10.36 out in time for it to get into bullseye (upstream have an RC), but I wanted 10.35 in in case that doesn't work out. Regards,

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Matthew Vernon
Scott Kitterman writes: > On May 7, 2019 8:50:57 PM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote: >>> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes: >>Ian> The latter point is because using dgit push is an ethical >>Ian> imperative, not because the two somehow have some deep >> Ian> technical linkage. IMO almost *any*

Re: wicd-daemon-run_1.0_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-30 Thread Matthew Vernon
Josh Triplett writes: > Ian Jackson wrote: >> Stepping back a bit I think the ideal situation is this: >> >> * All packages have sysvinit scripts for compatibility. > > Preferably in a package maintained by someone who actually uses that > daemon with sysvinit, rather than one maintained by some

Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-22 Thread Matthew Vernon
Marco d'Itri writes: > In the worst case it will fail explaining that some local change (in > a directory which should not have been modified by the local admin, BTW) > needs to be addressed by the local admin and then it can be restarted > and continue its work. Could you expand on this? I'm r

Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-21 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, Adam Borowski writes: FTR, I agree with the broad thrust of your mail; I'm not sure I've seen a convincing case for /usr-merge yet. > I am seriously claiming that RHEL is in the place Solaris was in 2010. But I want to take issue with this. RHEL is moderately-widely used, because if you w

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
Ian Jackson writes: > Matthew Vernon writes ("Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such"): >> Colin Watson writes: >> > This seems like a little bit of an overreaction to somebody removing a >> > single redundant line from a control file, though. Is

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
Jonathan Dowland writes: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 11:54:50AM +0000, Matthew Vernon wrote: >>Putting it under a personal namespace doesn't make it much less visible, >>and folk can still open MRs... > > Oh I beg to differ, there's a huge difference of visibil

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
Colin Watson writes: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 11:54:50AM +0000, Matthew Vernon wrote: >> Jonathan Dowland writes: >> > On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 03:42:01PM +0000, Matthew Vernon wrote: >> >>Hm, I had not quite appreciated that was the expected behaviou

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
Jonathan Dowland writes: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 03:42:01PM +0000, Matthew Vernon wrote: >>Hm, I had not quite appreciated that was the expected behaviour. Ah >>well, I can move it :) > > Please re-consider whether this trade-off (other people pushing to > master) is

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-06 Thread Matthew Vernon
On 06/11/2018 15:32, Guillem Jover wrote: > Because, I'm not sure what's the point of hosting a git repo, on a > platform like gitlab with its trivial forking facilities, on a group > with wide write permissions, if you don't want others to directly > write to it? :) Hm, I had not quite appreciat

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-06 Thread Matthew Vernon
Jacob Adams writes: > The consensus seems to be that people should enable email > notifications in salsa and open a bug when filing a merge request. > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/08/msg00235.html > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/08/msg00259.html Relatedly, what's

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-16 Thread Matthew Vernon
Ian Jackson writes: > Also we are hampered by the lack of a safe space to communicate and > coordinate. I looked at some of the technical work done in other > distros to try to make desktoppy stuff continue to work well, and it > generally seems sane. But some of those projects are quite toxic

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Matthew Vernon
Holger Levsen writes: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 06:01:43AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> > Has policy changed regarding support for multiple inits, or is it just that >> > no one is maintaining the shim and sysvinit-core? >> >> The latter. systemd-shim has been orphaned for over 2 years, and h

Re: Should the weboob package stay in Debian?

2018-07-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Stephan Seitz writes: > On Di, Jul 24, 2018 at 11:49:55 +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote: >>accept that they are authoritative in this regard. Therefore, you should >>rename the offensive parts of this package. > > He certainly should NOT rename any parts of the package witho

Re: Should the weboob package stay in Debian?

2018-07-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, "Marc Dequènes (duck)" writes: [snip] > So apart from objectification of women, but without > instrumentalization or degrading message, I was not able to find > serious consequences. As much as I would prefer things to be different > (I already told upstream in the past) I don't feel I have

Re: Should the weboob package stay in Debian?

2018-07-20 Thread Matthew Vernon
Jonathan Dowland writes: > I think we ought to more concretely determine what changes we wish to > take place. To do this properly I need to spend more time looking at the > package in more detail, so what follows is just my initial feelings. I > welcome feedback. For now I suggest we hash it out

Re: Should the weboob package stay in Debian?

2018-07-18 Thread Matthew Vernon
"Marc Dequènes (duck)" writes: > It has been brought to my attention that this package, its name and > the name of the binaries and further content was deemed > offensive. This was already raised in the past (~2012 IIRC) but the > package was reintroduced and has been in the archive since then.

Re: Intended MBF: maintainer scripts not using strict mode

2017-06-29 Thread Matthew Vernon
Ralf Treinen writes: > I had a cursory look over the listed maintainer scripts, and did not > find any that does a careful checking of exit statuses. Though some > of them are quite trivial, or even sometimes empty. It looks to me > as not using strict mode in these cases is an oversight, and I w

Bug#805728: ITP: pcre2 -- New Perl Compatible Regular Expression Library

2015-11-21 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon * Package name: pcre2 Version : 10.20 Upstream Author : Philip Hazel * URL : http://www.pcre.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : New Perl Compatible Regular Expression Library

Re: PCRE package naming

2015-10-28 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, Simon Richter writes: > Hi Matthew, > > On 22.10.2015 16:47, Matthew Vernon wrote: > > > Upstream has a new PCRE library, which they hope everyone will > > eventually migrate to, which is called PCRE2. It is currently version > > 10.20. It ships things named

PCRE package naming

2015-10-22 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, PCRE has been in Debian for some time; the current packages correspond to upstream 8.35 (with a pile of backported security fixes, which I hope will end up as an 8.38 release some time soon). These packages are called pcre3 (and libpcre3 ships libpcre.so.3). Upstream has a new PCRE library, w

Re: Age of built packages to be part of the jessie release?

2014-11-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Simon McVittie writes: > On 24/11/14 11:42, Svante Signell wrote: > > A question remains (for me): > > How to build a package in a clean jessie environment? Seems like the > > buildds are using sbuild. > > Have a minimal jessie chroot with build-essential, and a minimum of > supporting tools to

Re: Debconf - how to run a packaging workshop

2014-07-22 Thread Matthew Vernon
Dominic Hargreaves writes: > I've agreed to give a one day Debian packaging workshop at $dayjob aimed at > sysadmins and developers, and I'd be interested in hearing from those who > have already run similar sessions to get advice/tips for how to approach > such a thing. Would there be any intere

Bug#744305: ITP: rsbackup -- rsync-based backup utility

2014-04-12 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon Package name: rsbackup Version : 0.4.3 Upstream Author : Richard Kettlewell URL : http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2010/rsbackup.html License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : rsync

Bug#744239: ITP: libshib-common-java -- Shibboleth Common Library

2014-04-11 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon Package name: libshib-common-java Version : 2.4.0 Upstream Author : University Corporation for Advanced Internet Development, Inc. URL : http://shibboleth.net/shibboleth-common License : Apache-2.0

Bug#744134: ITP: libshib-parent-project2-java -- Shibboleth Project (V2) Super POM

2014-04-10 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon Package name: libshib-parent-project2-java Version : 1 Upstream Author : University Corporation for Advanced Internet Development, Inc. URL : http://shibboleth.net/ License : Apache-2.0

Bug#741545: ITP: libvt-ldap-java -- Virginia Tech LDAP Library

2014-03-13 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon Package name: libvt-ldap-java Version : 3.3.7 Upstream Author : Middleware Services URL : http://code.google.com/p/vt-middleware/wiki/vtldap License : LGPL-3 or Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Java

Bug#741416: ITP: libowasp-esapi-java -- Enterprise Security API (ESAPI)

2014-03-12 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon Package name: libowasp-esapi-java Version : 2.1.0 Upstream Author : Jeff Williams URL : https://code.google.com/p/owasp-esapi-java/ License : BSD (documentation CC-BY-SA-3.0) Programming Lang

Bug#741367: ITP: libowasp-antisamy-java -- OWASP AntiSamy

2014-03-11 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Vernon Package name: libowasp-antisamy-java Version : 1.5.3 Upstream Author : Arshan Dabirsiaghi URL : https://code.google.com/p/owaspantisamy/ License : BSD Programming Lang: Java Description

Re: Trademarks

2008-09-18 Thread Matthew Vernon
[nothing in this email is private] On 18 Sep 2008, at 11:53, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Thursday 18 September 2008 06:57, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: Except that, as reported by Jimmy, the version of the open use logo with the "Debian" name *does* suffer from this problem; which I think is a

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Matthew Vernon
On 23 Oct 2007, at 15:04, Lars Wirzenius wrote: ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in the conventional sense. The Queen's Printer (currently Cambridge University Press) has an exclusive commercia

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Matthew Vernon
t meant to print and sell Bibles in England, but no action has been taken against them. It's not at all clear whether electronic copies are covered. Matthew [1] http://www.btinternet.com/~akme/75cass1b.html -- Matthew Vernon MA VetMB LGSM MRCVS Farm Animal Epidemiology and Informatics Uni

Re: [help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635

2006-10-30 Thread Matthew Vernon
Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi there, fellow DDs, Debian enthusiasts and groff experts, > > I am looking at #394635. My eyes are starting to bleed. This bug is not > even RC, but it is ugly, and I would hate to ship Etch with it. > > All the man pages for this package use macros, sitting

Re: Uploading openssh NMU for SELinux updates as per release policy

2006-10-27 Thread Matthew Vernon
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > Three days ago, I sent in a patch in Bug#394795 which updated > SELinux patches to bring 'em in line with currently released SELinux > code in Debian. I updated that patch [0], and the binaries were I know nothing about SELinux,

Re: warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-10-01 Thread Matthew Vernon
Stephen Zander writes: > > "Vincent" == Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Vincent> short summary: lilo v22 works only with 2.0 kernels; it > Vincent> won't boot a 2.2.x or a 2.3.y. a v21 version has been > Vincent> reuploaded to master this morning. > > Hmmm, s

Problem with the latest potato update

1999-09-30 Thread Matthew Vernon
Marek Habersack writes: > Hi, > > Latest potato update contains a package, aleph-dev, with a wrong Priority: > line which prevents (until manually fixed) the apt update operation, which > aborts with: > > E: Malformed Priority line > E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVers

ITP: portsentry

1999-09-29 Thread Matthew Vernon
Rene Mayrhofer writes: > portsentry is a daemon that listens for port scans (also stealth scans) > and is able to disconnect and remember the attacking hosts in real-time. > It uses ipchains for disconnecting and tcp wrappers for preventing hosts > from further connections. > Please look at ht

Useless packages (was Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-27 Thread Matthew Vernon
David Starner writes: > On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 05:59:27PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > > Nevertheless it is moot point because we are running out of room and there > > has to be a third CD. It might as well contain all the documents and > > other packages non-essential to using an OS. > >

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Russell Coker writes: > On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > >I'd love to go to the conference. Let's go to Redmond and infiltrate > > Microsoft, or to the Portland area and infiltrate Intel. > > > > I'll hike there if I have to. I don't mind sleeping bag > > accomodations; I'm

Re: A few changes

1999-09-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Samuel Tardieu writes: > On 23/09, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > | I see no point in checking signatures if you don't also reject unsigned > | messages. > > For me, a message with no signature is a message with a bad signature :) This is all very well, except for those of us who email from work,