Re: What is going on with udev?

2005-08-03 Thread Steve Greenland
On 03-Aug-05, 04:11 (CDT), Adam Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it has been renamed from kernel-image to linux-image Oh, sweet Jesus. Thanks for the pointer, Adam, and a giant Feh! to the genius who came up with that idea. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims

Re: What is going on with udev?

2005-08-03 Thread Steve Greenland
On 03-Aug-05, 11:48 (CDT), Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 03 August 2005 18:15, Steve Greenland wrote: Thanks for the pointer, Adam, and a giant Feh! to the genius who came up with that idea. Did you even think of asking for the rationale behind the name change? I know

Re: please fix your RC bugs

2005-08-01 Thread Steve Greenland
not the ultimate goal of computing. Steve [1] Useful fragment for cross platform shell scripts: #!/bin/sh # Do the Solaris Dance: if [ ! -d ~root ] ; then exec /usr/xpg4/bin/sh $0 $@ fi -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system

Re: Public service announcement about Policy 10.4

2005-08-01 Thread Steve Greenland
time. (If you disagree, please show the timings to prove it.) If sufficient number disagree, then I think it ought to be rephrased as POSIX, plus these features: [list of required features]. Phrasing it as bash or dash [or ...] will lead to never ending argument. Regards, Steve -- Steve Greenland

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-30 Thread Steve Greenland
On 29-Jul-05, 08:50 (CDT), GOMBAS Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 08:38:17AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: Exercise: let's say I have an application that uses GSSAPI, and has to be able to be built statically. Requirements: - It should build with Heimdal's libgssapi

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Greenland
other libraries. So when I say I don't get it, it's not lack of experience with the tools, I'm just completely mystified why people think that libtool is an *improvement*. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds

Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Steve Greenland
is run scripts.It's not a bug, it's a significant design choice. Perhaps popcon should create an @boot job as well as daily. The @boot job could check have I run yet today, and then DTRT. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Greenland
. Most of these are probably worth a wishlist bug, but ONLY if accompanied by a suggested improvement. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen

Re: Bug#319256: ITP: nadoka - IRC Client Server Program

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Greenland
. You define and customize these responses in Ruby. Nadoka is conceptually similar to Madoka, an older proxy written in Perl. (I'm sure there's an IRC-specific term for specially formatted requests, but I can't think of it at present.) Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 20-Jul-05, 15:18 (CDT), Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ke, 2005-07-20 kello 14:47 -0500, Steve Greenland kirjoitti: Given 15000 packages, and 20 volunteers, and on average two minutes per description (given that most descriptions probably only need little or no tweaking

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Steve Greenland
number of users and other maintainers who argue, re-open bugs, etc. etc. etc. unless you can prove that your judgement is enshrined in policy. Or maybe I'm just getting cynical. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus

Re: interacting with the press

2005-07-12 Thread Steve Greenland
stories, however, always have the problem that they're often more sensationalist than useful or true, he said. Hardly out of line, IMO. -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over

Re: configure a program -- debconf abuse?

2005-07-06 Thread Steve Greenland
debconf, you can't use dpkg conffile handling, which I find a disadvantage (speaking as a user/admin, not as a packager.) Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world

Re: mail all bug reporters

2005-06-29 Thread Steve Greenland
] are *not* sent to the submitter, so that one continually hacking the headers to make sure that replies go everywhere necessary) makes it awfully easy to for a bug conversation to slip into un-intentional privacy. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable

Re: dummy packages and Replaces: field

2005-06-23 Thread Steve Greenland
you want, but it's never gone anywhere. I suspect that the effort has not been viewed as worthwhile, given that there's no new functionality. Dummy packages work, and have the advantage that it's very clear what is going on. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-20 Thread Steve Greenland
* spam filtering on the address listed in my packages, it is not suitable? Regards, Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-17 Thread Steve Greenland
the MAIL FROM for one user every 3 or 4 hours. so every 3 or 4 hours he comes stuck in greylisting server again and again. For such domains, greylisting sucks. Yet another reason SRS is broken. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-17 Thread Steve Greenland
need realtime, pick up a phone, or use one of any of the innumerable chat systems. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread Steve Greenland
'?. And usually there is. Except for environment variables[1]. Steve [1] Yeah, I know about pam_env, but it I've never been able to get it do what I want (add $HOME/bin to PATH.) Probably lack of clue on my part. -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating

Re: namespace conflict != package Conflict?

2005-06-13 Thread Steve Greenland
package. The overlapping user base is likely to be nil. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Steve Greenland
kernels we need to support, and if all of the targeted architectures are well supported by 2.6, well and good. But simply claiming that 2.4 is obsolete is not a useful contribution to that decision. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating

Re: Debian Woody - Sarge upgrade report

2005-05-06 Thread Steve Greenland
. Report a bug. Given that we have UCF, there's really no excuse for this any more. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: Sarge release for amd64 - Please help to fix the remaining bugs

2005-04-25 Thread Steve Greenland
. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Status of 'sarge' for the amd64 architecture

2005-04-25 Thread Steve Greenland
supposed to believe?) Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 20-Apr-05, 16:48 (CDT), Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And now you say it's *still* going on? Yes. For various reasons, I'm more hopeful now than I have been previously. Well, I'll be amazed and delighted when you prove me wrong

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-22 Thread Steve Greenland
to implement user jobs at reboot. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: advice needed on handling network port conflicts

2005-04-22 Thread Steve Greenland
change the port to match. Anybody whose using these tools can probably figure this out. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-20 Thread Steve Greenland
to distribute his essays than allow them share and reuse documentation. I think he's blown this decision, but it's fairly obvious at this point that he's not going to change his mind. All we can do is discourage use of the GFDL, and hope that the GPL3 isn't equally screwed up. Steve -- Steve

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Apr-05, 10:55 (CDT), Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 8, 2005 12:05 AM, Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Expect people to whine. I personally don't see why @daily is significantly easier than 0 0 * * * but apparently some people get all sweaty if they have

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Steve Greenland
minutes that checks if it's running and restarts it if not. If the service is important, you want that anyway; if not, then you don't need @reboot. I don't argue that @reboot can't be convenient, only that it's trivial to work around. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Apr-05, 16:30 (CDT), Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see plenty : I have a mini daemon on one of my accounts that I really need. but since I'm not root on the machine, I need to be able to use @reboot to restart No you don't. See my reply to Wesley. Steve -- Steve

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-07 Thread Steve Greenland
. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-04-07 Thread Steve Greenland
On 07-Apr-05, 15:22 (CDT), Pierre THIERRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribit Steve Greenland dies 06/04/2005 hora 17:37: There's a long history of people relying on explicitly unspecified behaviour, and then bitching when that behaviour changes. For the sake of my curiosity again, could

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-07 Thread Steve Greenland
. For the sake of consitency, you should use the same conventions as run-parts. Feel free to take the code from cron. And yeah, I'll pick up fixing the permissions in cron. Send me a patch when you're ready. Post sarge, of course. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-04-06 Thread Steve Greenland
the independent patches. There's a long history of people relying on explicitly unspecified behaviour, and then bitching when that behaviour changes. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-06 Thread Steve Greenland
to know the plan.) Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-04-04 Thread Steve Greenland
. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: How to handle unreproducible RC bugs when the submitter is MIA?

2005-04-01 Thread Steve Greenland
the submitter is not the only Debian auctex user . Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Bug#301700: ITP: update-manager -- a GNOME application that manages apt updates

2005-03-28 Thread Steve Greenland
-- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-25 Thread Steve Greenland
more reliable... Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: Required firewall support

2005-03-25 Thread Steve Greenland
On 21-Mar-05, 12:39 (CST), David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 11:22:48AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: And that's what we do. But some other OSs (Solaris) do support strict multihoming with a config parameter, it would be nice if Linux did. netdev

Re: Required firewall support

2005-03-20 Thread Steve Greenland
. :-/ And that's what we do. But some other OSs (Solaris) do support strict multihoming with a config parameter, it would be nice if Linux did. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-18 Thread Steve Greenland
archs, not Debian Developers. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Required firewall support

2005-03-18 Thread Steve Greenland
route for 10/8 to 192.168.0.1. Now ping 10.0.0.1. For bonus points, do 'ifconfig eth1 down', and then ping from the other machine again. Surprise! (All with 2.4.18, maybe it's fixed in 2.6.) Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating

Re: Required firewall support

2005-03-17 Thread Steve Greenland
the services that you're actually supporting, and use tcpwrappers et. al. to control access to those, if you like. Packet filtering is basically irrelevant. And there are other kinds of firewalls besides packet filters. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making

Re: Privileged Port Puzzle

2005-03-11 Thread Steve Greenland
; /* Keep running as current user */ } Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: usbmount: udev script to automatically (un)mount USB mass storage devices: include in Debian?

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Greenland
-space/kernel-space tool learns about this. While not perfect, using autofs with a very short timeout (5 seconds, say) alleviates this problem. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Greenland
lose the usb key with the gpg keys, you do want to be able to revoke them, right? Since the RCs are not something I need regularly, I put mine on a couple of CDs, and printed a copy (worst case). Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating

Re: usbmount: udev script to automatically (un)mount USB mass storage devices: include in Debian?

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Greenland
On 08-Mar-05, 09:15 (CST), martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also sprach Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.03.08.1423 +0100]: While not perfect, using autofs with a very short timeout (5 seconds, say) alleviates this problem. No it does not. You would be surprised how many

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-07 Thread Steve Greenland
, hotplug and discover will load both modules, resulting in various disasters depending on the hardware. It's not because things work with your setup that they are suitable for a stable Debian release. Then that's a bug in hotplug and/or discover, not the kernel. Steve -- Steve Greenland

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-07 Thread Steve Greenland
having the kernel require audio packages is seen a legitimate solution... Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Accepted nvi 1.79-22 (i386 source)

2005-03-06 Thread Steve Greenland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 17:21:34 -0600 Source: nvi Binary: nvi Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.79-22 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: I/O hardware, control of external transistors

2005-03-02 Thread Steve Greenland
://www.torque.net/linux-pp.html and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IO-Port-Programming.html might be useful. Note that these are the first two hits for googling Linux parallel port programming. Other searches are left as an excercise. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Steve Greenland
. Sure, until someone want's 'nonfs', and someone else wants 'nocups', etc. etc. etc. Why is that people won't use the working, standard, way to do this? Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims

Re: Bug#297629: ITP: gallery2 -- web-based photo album written in PHP

2005-03-01 Thread Steve Greenland
. There are are several web photo albums in Debian. Another one that's likely to be popular and well supported long term won't hurt. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world

Re: Any reason why I'm not CCed by bugs of my packages?

2005-02-25 Thread Steve Greenland
no idea what causes it but the same thing happens to me a couple of times a year. Ditto. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-18 Thread Steve Greenland
are unsure then you should not use split configuration. I think the last point sums it up -- use monolithic configuration if you don't understand what the question is about. No where in the Debconf note does it say which is the upstream way. And does it default to one big file? Steve -- Steve

Re: The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-18 Thread Steve Greenland
On 18-Feb-05, 09:06 (CST), Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le vendredi 18 f??vrier 2005 ?? 08:37 -0600, Steve Greenland a ??crit : No where in the Debconf note does it say which is the upstream way. This has nothing to do in a debconf note. Sigh. Did you read the thread? W

Re: The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-18 Thread Steve Greenland
-- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Accepted cron 3.0pl1-87 (i386 source)

2005-02-16 Thread Steve Greenland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:37:27 -0600 Source: cron Binary: cron Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.0pl1-87 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Bug#294845: ITP: holotz-castle -- platform game with high dosis of mistery

2005-02-12 Thread Steve Greenland
-- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-10 Thread Steve Greenland
these messy wires every where. I didn't like the way it looked, so I cut them all out. Now my car won't start. It's the *same* *thing*. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over

Re: Bug#294084: ITP: life -- Linux Instrumentation for Enterprise - a set of WBEM management providers from Novell

2005-02-09 Thread Steve Greenland
it eventually, then there's no need to do anything except perhaps add a note about the current state of not quite ready for packaging, working on it. The rollback mechanism is to simply close the report. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-09 Thread Steve Greenland
it either. Is it lying then, too? Df et. al. show all the mounted filesystems. If the same filesystem is mounted twice, then it shows it twice. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over

Re: Bug#294084: ITP: life -- Linux Instrumentation for Enterprise - a set of WBEM management providers from Novell

2005-02-08 Thread Steve Greenland
, no nothing. The CVS tree hasn't been modified in months. Is this really something that can be usefully packaged? Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Steve Greenland
be reasonable to accept leading digits when there is at least one non-digit in the name. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: Bug#293167: ITP: request-tracker3.4 -- Extensible trouble-ticket tracking system

2005-02-02 Thread Steve Greenland
. etc. Best Practical makes new bugfix releases to older versions, so they obviously don't expect everybody to upgrade all at once. RT is not an application. RT is a framework. It's quite reasonable to have multiple versions of that framework available. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony

Re: Urgent

2005-01-28 Thread Steve Greenland
a model of correct grammar and spelling. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Bug#292183: ITP: gtkpizza -- Pizza takeaway managment program written in gtk

2005-01-27 Thread Steve Greenland
often have different meanings in different languages. Such is the case here. It's true: The word pizza in the US doesn't mean the same thing as pizza in Italy. Steve, longing for the Pizzeria Cenacola in Siracusa... -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making

Re: ITP: logmon -- Sometimes better tail

2005-01-24 Thread Steve Greenland
, who avoided making any rude jokes about 'tail'. -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: not starting packages at boot

2005-01-24 Thread Steve Greenland
to do is to submit a wishlist bug for invoke-rc.d support, NOT create some new ad-hoc method. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: not starting packages at boot

2005-01-23 Thread Steve Greenland
is to default off. And more importangly, as others have said (every single time this comes up), there is an *existing* mechanism to accomplish this that doesn't require modifying every daemon package: invoke-rc.d and policy-rc.d. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims

Re: not starting packages at boot

2005-01-23 Thread Steve Greenland
On 23-Jan-05, 14:05 (CST), Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 10:53:48AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: /etc/default/foo. I could tolerate it if packaged defaulted *on*, but it seems the habit is to default off. And more importangly, as others have said (every

Accepted positron 1:1.1-1 (all source)

2005-01-23 Thread Steve Greenland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:44:30 -0600 Source: positron Binary: positron Architecture: source all Version: 1:1.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Steve Greenland [EMAIL

Re: RFS: dosage -- powerful webcomic downloader / archiver

2005-01-22 Thread Steve Greenland
material that some people would find offensive. Perhaps we ought to install some sort of filter that protects people against that. Steve, hoping that the sarcasm is obvious. -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims

Re: NPTL support in 2.4 kernel series?

2005-01-21 Thread Steve Greenland
? I'm with Lars. Anyone installing DBMS who can't be bothered to read the package description that says requires kernel 2.6 is going to have more problems than you can even think about solving with Depends. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable

Re: rudeness in changelogs

2005-01-08 Thread Steve Greenland
students who didn't even have the minimum decency to attempt to notify the upstream authors before publishing the bugs? I think taking a dig at them in the changelog is the *least* anyone should do. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating

Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-04 Thread Steve Greenland
as we get bigger and bigger. Steve [1] Okay, just in case you don't: http://www.ubuntu.com/, http://www.progeny.com -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen

Re: Removing obsolete configuration files?

2005-01-02 Thread Steve Greenland
note (of appropriate priority), and in the README or Changelog.Debian. Where the appropriate priority is none. Putting it in the Debian NEWS files is sufficient. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds

Re: dependancy issues

2005-01-02 Thread Steve Greenland
. It means you need to go in and (re-)select all the smaller meta-packages, etc. that you actually want to keep. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen

Re: Status of Kernel 2.4.28 packages?

2005-01-02 Thread Steve Greenland
it, and converting from usbmgr). Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: RFC: common database policy/infrastracture

2004-12-16 Thread Steve Greenland
for that forum application, with the minimum of rights needed for that application (e.g. SELECT and UPDATE) in a single specific database. You're talking about a DB *admin* password. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds

Re: dselect survey

2004-12-12 Thread Steve Greenland
to download stuff by hand. But I sure wouldn't recommend it to a new user. Which, of course, isn't to say that it should be removed. I was surprised by how many people still use it; I hope some one will pick it up. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making

Re: Status of this ITP?

2004-12-08 Thread Steve Greenland
going to CC debian-devel, at least have the courtesy to mention what the hell you're babbling about, instead of forcing us to go look up the bug number. Get off your ass. Ah. I see. Courtesy is not your strong point. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making

Re: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-05 Thread Steve Greenland
that we don't care to make it available as an official Debian package from our servers. This is not a subtle difference. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world

Re: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-05 Thread Steve Greenland
On 05-Dec-04, 09:07 (CST), Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:45:56AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: On 05-Dec-04, 04:55 (CST), James Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no excuse for censorship, ever. Okay everybody, repeat after me

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-03 Thread Steve Greenland
-- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Steve Greenland
and harmful to society that than a cartoon nipple. I've not previously objected to the inclusion of the Bible because I think that censorship is even worse. But if we, Debian, are going to go down that path, then that would be the first thing on my list. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Steve Greenland
in his sex life? Fantastic. (Not that I think hot-babe is particularly educational. I'm just sad that so many American adults are so scared of the human body that they find a silly cartoon threatening.) Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Steve Greenland
of the New Yorker. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Dec-04, 02:35 (CST), Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note the lewd exhibition of the genitals. Note the word genitals. Now look again at the cartoon in hot-babe. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Steve Greenland
' command, which would be offensive, I agree. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Steve Greenland
: which argument are promoting? Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Steve Greenland
, not all women believe that any depiction of the naked human body is automatically pornography and offensive. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Steve Greenland
movement, you have to blame it for the slavers as well. Which just shows what others in this thread have said: religion is often used to justify whatever behaviour/belief the individual wants to justify. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable

Re: [OT] God knows what [was Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor]

2004-12-01 Thread Steve Greenland
of an issue. Are you claiming that there are NOT, at this time, plenty of people killing random innocents, and waving the Islamic Crescent to justify it? Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying

Re: Ubuntu discussion at planet.debian.org

2004-10-22 Thread Steve Greenland
-- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: Do _not_ file massbugs without consulting debian-devel (Re: Bug#277210: package description typo(s) and the like)

2004-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
? Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: First spam

2004-10-10 Thread Steve Greenland
scum) who harvest addresses only care about a numbers, not target markets. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

Re: RFC: best practice creating database

2004-10-08 Thread Steve Greenland
for. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net

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