Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Cyril, On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 09:11:24PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the second beta > release of the installer for Debian 8 "Jessie". > ... thanks for your report and your continuous work on the installer. I wonder what might be the o

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-13 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Andreas, Andreas Tille (2014-10-08): > On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 09:11:24PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the second beta > > release of the installer for Debian 8 "Jessie". > > ... > > thanks for your report and your continuous work on t

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-14 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Cyril, On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 06:02:11AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > Andreas Tille (2014-10-08): > > On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 09:11:24PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the second beta > > > release of the installer f

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi again Andreas, Andreas Tille (2014-10-14): > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 06:02:11AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > well to be honest the whole blend story came as a surprise. > > Ahhh, this in turn is surprising for me since the first "version" of > this bug is dated 24 Mar 2003 (#186085) :-).

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-14 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Cyril, On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:14:53AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > > > In other words: I perfectly know the fact that Blends are widely > > ignored even amongst Debian developers and that's not about you / the > > debian-boot team - perhaps my "running around and tell people" is just

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-14 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20:02AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I admit I expected *you* to know about Blends for a while - but > considering the video recorded quote I think I was not wrong using this > chance to point this out for other readers of this mail as it is really > a fact that I always

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Bas Wijnen (2014-10-14 19:19:36) > I have heard about [Blends] for quite a while, indeed, but I must say > that I never entirely understood what they are. I'm guessing I'm not > alone in this. So let me write what I think they are, and then you > can correct me. I've read the explanat

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Bas, On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:19:36PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20:02AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > I admit I expected *you* to know about Blends for a while - but > > considering the video recorded quote I think I was not wrong using this > > chance to point t

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 08:29:47PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Well, Blends and "the desktop situation" could be considered > orthogonal. > > > > Do all blends work well with all desktop environments? > > No. While this "no" means: There exist 1 or 2 Blends focussing on

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Holger, On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:25:20AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2014, Andreas Tille wrote: > > While this "no" means: There exist 1 or 2 Blends focussing on a > > specific desktop environment (as far as I know Debian Edu and Ezgo) but > > Debian Edu

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Bas Wijnen
Hi, On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 09:31:36AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > You belong to a majority if I might conclude from my experience. I have > no idea whether I should feel responsible for this but I'm fighting on > several fronts like the extensive documentation[1] and countless > talks[2] as we

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Bas Wijnen (2014-10-15 19:49:32) > On occasion, I've needed a single-use system; something that boots up > into an application and that shuts down when that application exits. > (Having the full power of Debian in the background is a nice feature, > but mostly unused.) For example, for

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Bas, On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 07:49:32PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > > For the moment the way to install Blends is to use the plain Debian > > installer and afterwards install a bunch of metapackages. > > Ah, and that's what you want to change now. That sounds like a very > good idea. :-)

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andreas Tille (2014-10-16 08:47:19) > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 07:49:32PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: >> On occasion, I've needed a single-use system; something that boots up >> into an application and that shuts down when that application exits. >> (Having the full power of Debian in the bac

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
Hello, On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 08:47:19AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Would this use case also be a reason for creating a personal blend? Or > > even an official one? > > Jonas has answered this question. I'd like to add that I'm no fan of > "personal" things since you spoil the idea of for

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Bas, On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 08:27:37PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > Ok. Is it supposed to be possible to install more than one blend > simultaneously? Is that technically prevented with Conflicts? Not at all. I have not tested but I would bet that you can install all existing metapackages of