Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-05-01 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:18:20AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 05:05:08PM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote: > > Is this an inconsistency with the above quote from section 7.6, which > > uses the word "may"? > > Yes. Ah, you see my point now :) Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany <[EM

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 05:05:08PM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote: > Is this an inconsistency with the above quote from section 7.6, which > uses the word "may"? Yes. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-29 Thread Daniel Schepler
Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:00:07AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote: > > > > Package: cvs (debian/main) > > Maintainer: Eric Gillespie, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 95263 missing build dependency > > The policy says: > > A source package may dec

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-29 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rahul Jain) writes: > maybe there should be meta-packages for packages that have embedded version > numbers like that. In the general case, yes. In this case, there is no need for one, since the package in question is build-essential, and so need not be listed in a build depen

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-29 Thread Rahul Jain
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 01:30:44AM -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote: > I'd be tempted to agree with you, except... > > I've spent quite a bit of time recently dealing with packages that include an > explicit build dependency on "libstdc++2.10-dev". This is not necessary since > it is a dependency for an

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-29 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It isn't *quite* that simple. Explicit build dependencies should only be > > for packages that are neither essential nor build-essential. > > But it's entirely harmless to mention them; this is an

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-29 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 11:29:20PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It isn't *quite* that simple. Explicit build dependencies should only be > > for packages that are neither essential nor build-essential. > > But it's entirely harmless to ment

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It isn't *quite* that simple. Explicit build dependencies should only be > for packages that are neither essential nor build-essential. But it's entirely harmless to mention them; this is an area where it's better to err on the side of liberality than

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-28 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bas Zoetekouw) writes: > If a package requires any binary package in order to be build from > source, it must declare a dependency on that package. It isn't *quite* that simple. Explicit build dependencies should only be for packages that are neither essential nor build-

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 05:31:02PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: > > This is not correct. All packages have to follow current policy: if they > > miss out on most issues, that's a bug, if they miss some other issues, > > that's an RC bug. It doesn't matter wha

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Marcus! You wrote: > > > > A source package may declare a dependency or a conflict > > > > on a binary package. > Some packages don't build depend on any beside the build essentials. You > certainly need to make provision for them, so a simple s/may/must/ won't > work. Then what

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-28 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: > This is not correct. All packages have to follow current policy: if they > miss out on most issues, that's a bug, if they miss some other issues, > that's an RC bug. It doesn't matter what Standards-Version they claim. Maybe dinstall should include a st

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:13:37AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:00:07AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote: > > > Package: cvs (debian/main) > > > Maintainer: Eric Gillespie, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 95263 missing build depe

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-27 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 03:25:54PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > I still don't understand why the policy (version 3.5.3.0) > > doesn't simply say "must" rather then "may". > > > > Debian is a community which exists for the mutual benefit of its members. > > Members playing games lik

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-27 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:11:41AM +0200, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:13:37AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > > > The policy says: > > > > > > A source package may declare a dependency or a conflict >

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > I still don't understand why the policy (version 3.5.3.0) > doesn't simply say "must" rather then "may". > Debian is a community which exists for the mutual benefit of its members. Members playing games like 'policy does not say I *HAVE* to do it' do not make Debian a better place. let's a

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-27 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:13:37AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > > The policy says: > > > > A source package may declare a dependency or a conflict ^^^ > > on a binary package. [...] > Some 3.x policy version added bui

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-27 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:00:07AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote: > > > > Package: cvs (debian/main) > > Maintainer: Eric Gillespie, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 95263 missing build dependency > > The policy says: > > A source package may declar

Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-27 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:00:07AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote: > > Package: cvs (debian/main) > Maintainer: Eric Gillespie, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 95263 missing build dependency The policy says: A source package may declare a dependency or a conflict on a binary package. Th