Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:59:11PM +0100, Peter Rice wrote: On 16/09/2013 11:31, Faheem Mitha wrote: This is really not Debian-related, except insofar as the software in question is something that might have been in Debian one day. I talked about that with people on debian-med recently. So, it

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-25 Thread Faheem Mitha
Hi Steve, On Wed, 25 Sep 2013, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:59:11PM +0100, Peter Rice wrote: On 16/09/2013 11:31, Faheem Mitha wrote: This is really not Debian-related, except insofar as the software in question is something that might have been in Debian one day. I

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Steve Langasek The real rationale is surely that, because facts are *not governed by copyright*, any licensing claim over this data is ignorable. Copyrights are not the any type of «IP» that may require licensing. Database rights exist in Europe for instance. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-22 Thread Charles Plessy
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013, Peter Rice wrote: However, I have run into this issue before in the context of biological database entries and Debian so it may be worth discussing here. There were objections to including SwissProt entries in the example data for the EMBOSS package because the

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-18 Thread Faheem Mitha
Hi Peter, Thank you for your very helpful answer. Seriously, it is rare to get such a good answer on such a topic. I actually read your response on academia.sx before you saw your email, and I should have guessed such a good reason would have come from a Debian person. Also, I see you

Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-16 Thread Faheem Mitha
Hi, This is really not Debian-related, except insofar as the software in question is something that might have been in Debian one day. I talked about that with people on debian-med recently. So, it is technically off-topic. However, I thought that maybe people on these lists would have

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-16 Thread Paul Wise
I am not a lawyer but I don't think facts are copyrightable. In some jurisdictions there are database rights and copyright on collections of facts (like phone books) that could apply here. I suggest you consult the lawyers for your research institute for the legal situation in your jurisdiction.

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-16 Thread Peter Rice
On 16/09/2013 11:31, Faheem Mitha wrote: Hi, This is really not Debian-related, except insofar as the software in question is something that might have been in Debian one day. I talked about that with people on debian-med recently. So, it is technically off-topic. I posted a reply on

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-16 Thread Jeff Epler
It looks like both you and the site you wish to access are based in France, so please forgive this US-centric intrusion. Under US law, it may be the case that violating website terms of service is a felony crime with jail time attached.

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-16 Thread John Hasler
Jeff Epler writes: Under US law, it may be the case that violating website terms of service is a felony crime with jail time attached. The USA Federal courts have made it clear that this is not the case. As far as I know there have been no convictions or even prosecutions under this theory. A