Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > Curious that you have that perception. I don't have hard data but I
> > can immediately think of at least five folks.
> >
> > And that's not counting myself.
>
> GSoC or Outreachy?
I don't really track in my head the origin outreach programme of these
new friends of mine,
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 08:05:17PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> I am sure this all makes sense for people in the US,
> but for a global project it is a WTF.
not commenting on your main point (the above), but...
> [2] See the "we know it could be used for 4 or 5 other developers
> inside Europe
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 03:04:12PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> On 2019/04/17 13:08, Chris Lamb wrote:
> >> How many percent of the paid GSoC and Outreachy student workers
> >> continue unpaid afterwards and become a DM or DD?
> >>
> >> My impression is that GSoC does not have a high quota,
> >>
Hi,
On 4/16/19 10:07 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 02:29:54PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
>> ...
>> As far as I understand your summary it would be even
>> "burning" a student if we would throw theses packaging task on a
>> student in a GSoC / outreachy project (I'm aware that w
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:07:34PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> How many percent of the paid GSoC and Outreachy student workers
> continue unpaid afterwards and become a DM or DD?
>
> My impression is that GSoC does not have a high quota,
> and Outreachy is a complete failure.[1]
Two out of three
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 01:38:22AM +, Mo Zhou wrote:
> Hi Adrian,
Hi Mo,
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:07:34PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>...
> > The work Mo spent on the already-outdated tensorflow package in
> > experimental was wasted if there is noone who continues maintaining it.
> > And
Hi Chris
On 2019/04/17 13:08, Chris Lamb wrote:
>> How many percent of the paid GSoC and Outreachy student workers
>> continue unpaid afterwards and become a DM or DD?
>>
>> My impression is that GSoC does not have a high quota,
>> and Outreachy is a complete failure.
>
> Curious that you have th
> On 17 Apr 2019, at 13:58, Mo Zhou wrote:
>
> Hi Ondřej,
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 01:12:12PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>> The only single person I’ve been mentoring in GSoC did as little as
>> possible to pass the half-time, cashed the money and stopped
>> responding to emails.
>>
>> So,
Hi Ondřej,
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 01:12:12PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> The only single person I’ve been mentoring in GSoC did as little as
> possible to pass the half-time, cashed the money and stopped
> responding to emails.
>
> So, experience might wildly vary...
Sorry to hear that. It must
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 07:08:53AM -0400, Chris Lamb wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>
> > How many percent of the paid GSoC and Outreachy student workers
> > continue unpaid afterwards and become a DM or DD?
> >
> > My impression is that GSoC does not have a high quota,
> > and Outreachy is a comple
The only single person I’ve been mentoring in GSoC did as little as possible to
pass the half-time, cashed the money and stopped responding to emails.
So, experience might wildly vary...
Ondrej
--
Ondřej Surý
ond...@sury.org
> On 17 Apr 2019, at 07:17, intrigeri wrote:
>
> Adrian Bunk:
>> O
Adrian Bunk wrote:
> How many percent of the paid GSoC and Outreachy student workers
> continue unpaid afterwards and become a DM or DD?
>
> My impression is that GSoC does not have a high quota,
> and Outreachy is a complete failure.
Curious that you have that perception. I don't have hard data
Adrian Bunk:
> Outreachy is a complete failure.[1]
> […]
> [1] If anyone has data to prove that I am wrong, please let me to know.
I only have one single data point: the only person I've been an
Outreachy mentor for is now an active, uploading DD.
Cheers,
--
intrigeri
Hi Adrian,
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:07:34PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>
> How many percent of the paid GSoC and Outreachy student workers
> continue unpaid afterwards and become a DM or DD?
It's not realistic to expect a student to continue any unpaid effort
after the GSoC / Outreachy particip
Dear Mo,
Thanks for your work!
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:53 PM Mo Zhou wrote:
>
> The student may also need access to a strong build machine. My Xeon
> E5-2687v4 x1 [1] takes about 20 minutes to finish a build, while my
> laptop (I5-7440HQ) takes ~90 minutes.
Have you tried ccache? Interested
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 02:29:54PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
>...
> As far as I understand your summary it would be even
> "burning" a student if we would throw theses packaging task on a
> student in a GSoC / outreachy project (I'm aware that we are usually
> not supporting packaging tasks in th
Hi Andreas,
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 02:29:54PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the summary and all your previous work you've spent
> into this. As far as I understand your summary it would be even
> "burning" a student if we would throw theses packaging task on a
> student in a GSo
Hello,
Thanks for the feedback. In the accessibility team we had interest in
https://github.com/mozilla/DeepSpeech but I got quickly afraid but the
mention of "TensorFlow" in dependencies, it seems I was right in not
taking time to have a look, unfortunately.
Samuel
Dear Mo,
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:12:44AM +, Mo Zhou wrote:
> ...
> This time I'm really giving up all related efforts [12], and shall never
> touch them again. I don't feel pity, even if these points seem to be
> tightly connected to some of my Debian activities. Apart from that, I'm
> stil
Hi people,
This message is neither a good news, nor asking for help. I'm writing
to share some of my points about Deep Learning Framework packaging,
after a re-evaluation of the status of TensorFlow's latest build
systems. My thoughts are concluded from failures instead of success.
That said, they
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