Steve Langasek writes:
> Yes, a user can do anything with ifconfig if his time has no value. I am
> happily using network manager on my laptop, because unlike ifconfig it's
> easy to configure for use on new wireless networks.
>
> I am not happy that network manager bypasses ifconfig to do this;
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 09:59:43PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Neil Williams wrote:
> > There needs to be a simple tool with few dependencies and there needs
> > to be a complex solution with all the power that some users need. One
> > tool does not suit all here. It's not ju
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Neil Williams wrote:
> There needs to be a simple tool with few dependencies and there needs
> to be a complex solution with all the power that some users need. One
> tool does not suit all here. It's not just about daemon vs GUI frontend
> or whether to use DBus or Python - it
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 12:00:01AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 10:52:33AM +0400, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote:
> > On 08:18 Mon 04 Apr , Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > RH> Hi,
>
> > RH> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote:
> > >> Stupid scheme (intended for stupid
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:00:01 -0700
Steve Langasek wrote:
> > There was a way "User can do anything", the way was replaced by the way
> > "User can do something in list". Obviously that this action has been
> > done for stupid users.
>
> Yes, a user can do anything with ifconfig if his time has no
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 10:52:33AM +0400, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote:
> On 08:18 Mon 04 Apr , Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> RH> Hi,
> RH> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote:
> >> Stupid scheme (intended for stupid users) should be based on ifupdown
> >> but shouldn't replace it.
> RH> Ple
On 08:18 Mon 04 Apr , Raphael Hertzog wrote:
RH> Hi,
RH> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote:
>> Stupid scheme (intended for stupid users) should be based on ifupdown
>> but shouldn't replace it.
RH> Please refrain from calling people "stupid users" just because they use a
RH> softw
>>> If you mean the ifupdown-based configuration, then I cannot agree that
>>> it is "really disastrous" (I would agree that the network-manager
>>> approach is really disastrous, however) as at least in my cases (which
>>> are not so trivial) ifupdown works okay (and if not then at least I
>>> wou
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:28:42PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I have read all e-mails in this thread, and what constructive criticism
> you may have given is buried under uncompromising prejudice. For
> example:
>
> > If you mean the ifupdown-based configuration, then I cannot agree that
> > i
On ma, 2011-04-04 at 00:18 +0400, Stanislav Maslovski wrote:
> If you read my mails without a prejudice you will notice it.
I have read all e-mails in this thread, and what constructive criticism
you may have given is buried under uncompromising prejudice. For
example:
> If you mean the ifupdown-
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