GPL debate on kernel mailing list

2016-08-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, http://www.jonobacon.org/2016/08/29/linux-linus-bradley-open-source-protection/ just popped up in my rss feed and I thought I'd share it with you… it's a comment on the recent GPL enforcement debate on the (upstream) kernel list. I basically agree with Jono here. -- cheers,

Re: Bug#198682: ITP: kernel-patch-2.4-low-latency -- Reduces the latency of the Linux kernel

2003-06-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Aurelien Jarno It's already packaged: [...] | * Package name : kernel-patch-2.4-low-latency | Upstream Author : Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | * URL : http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/schedlat.html | * License : GPL | Description : Reduces the

Re: Bug#198682: ITP: kernel-patch-2.4-low-latency -- Reduces the latency of the Linux kernel

2003-06-25 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:43:34AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > It's already packaged: [...] > : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ > apt-cache show kernel-patch-lowlatency-2.4 > Package: kernel-patch-lowlatency-2.4 Oops ! Sorry, closing the bug... I searched with apt-cache for low-late

Re: Bug#198682: ITP: kernel-patch-2.4-low-latency -- Reduces the latency of the Linux kernel

2003-06-25 Thread Simon Law
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:43:06AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:43:34AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > It's already packaged: > [...] > > > : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ > apt-cache show kernel-patch-lowlatency-2.4 > > Package: ke

Bug#221132: ITP: kernel-image-2.4.22-xfs -- Linux kernel image for version 2.4.22 w/ XFS support

2003-11-16 Thread Steve Langasek
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: kernel-image-2.4.22-xfs Version : 2.4.22-3-1 Upstream Author : Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> et al. * License : GPL Description : Linux kernel image for version 2.4.22 w/ XFS support This package is essenti

Re: Bug#275806: ITP: acx100-kernel-src -- kernel module for TI acx100 based wireless lan cards

2004-10-10 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
retitle 275192 ITP: acx100-source -- ACX100/ACX111 wireless network drivers source thanks Hi Aurelien! You wrote: > Bas Zoetekouw a écrit : > >Package: wnpp > >Severity: wishlist > > > >* Package name: acx100-kernel-src > > Version : 0.2.0p

Re: Bug#510223: How to avoid device name related kernel panics after dist(/automated kernel)-upgrade

2009-08-30 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Sonntag, den 30.08.2009, 10:23 + schrieb kar...@brueckenschlaeger.de: > My wish: > * please provide a (half) automated, maybe interactive, way to verify > the > configuration of fstab / menu.lst (and related) in any matching > postinst > script > * in #debian-devel i got the hint to switch f

Bug#157150: ITP: kernel-patch-scanlogic -- kernel patch to get the ScanLogic USB-IDE Adapter to work

2002-08-18 Thread Rene Engelhard
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-15 Severity: wishlist * Package name : kernel-patch-scanlogic Version : 1.0 Upstream Authors : Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Leif Sawyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://people.debi

Re: pychess freezes + kernel 2.6 threading library

2007-04-15 Thread Pierre Habouzit
ASSUME_KERNEL to 2.6.1 in pychess file and > > > then the main window loaded but still it freezes when I start playing > > > the game. > > > > > > What exactly does this export statement do? Is the problem with the > > > new kernels or the old kernels?

Making a multi-binary-kernel-module-package

2007-05-29 Thread Pascal Speck
One of the Userspace Program and onle of the kernel-module. the kernel module should include the source with the posibility of building module-packages with module-assistant. How should the tree and the rules-file looklike? Does anyone know a good howto? (I read debian mtg etc.) Greez Pasal

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi, I have experince mostly with the out-of-tree module Zaptel. I'm personally happy with m-a. It works resonably well for me. Though I appreciate the goal of cross-vendor compatibility. Some comments: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:00:38AM +0200, David Paleino wrote: > 1) It includes

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
compatibility. That's why I'm trying to introduce DKMS! > Some comments: > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:00:38AM +0200, David Paleino wrote: > > > 1) It includes a kernel postinstall hook. This means that, the moment kernel > > headers get installed, your modul

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
can be unloaded? Is there a --force option? But this is another > story :) Maybe it's possible (I'm not exactly sure. I think it's possible, at least in most cases). But do I want this? Do I want to shut down my PBX because of the Ubuntu kernel upgrade of the month? Which is why I

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
; > > I believe this is a bug in the zaptel init scripts... shouldn't they check > > whether they can be unloaded? Is there a --force option? But this is another > > story :) > > Maybe it's possible (I'm not exactly sure. I think it's possible, at >

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:00:38 +0200, David Paleino wrote: > If you have AUTOINSTALL set to yes in a DKMS control file: > > 1) It includes a kernel postinstall hook. This means that, the moment kernel > headers get installed, your modules are automatically rebuilt. This is achieved

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Mario Limonciello
eve > some effort should be made to make a "central repository" (like for > autopackage, and for other similar "cross-vendor" projects) where to store > "vanilla" tarballs. Mario, do you know of any "central source" currently > available? > The origina

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Mario Limonciello
Hi Cohen: Keep in mind, if there is a new kernel that gets installed, this will build the driver for that kernel, but nothing will be activated until you reboot. That choice is your own. Due to the kernel postinstall service, you won't even need to build the modules during the next boot

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Mario Limonciello
Hi David: I'll add on the Ubuntu kernel team here to get some comments on this postinstall hook functionality and it's origins. Regards David Paleino wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:00:38 +0200, David Paleino wrote: > > >> If you have AUTOINSTALL set to yes in a D

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:17:17 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 17:29 +0200, David Paleino a écrit : > > > > 1) It includes a kernel postinstall hook. This means that, the moment > > > > kernel headers get installed, your module

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Mario Limonciello
Hi Josselin: As I understand, the dpkg maintainer (Michael Vogt) is implementing the idea of package groups that have sticky dependencies. This should mean that when a package gets installed, it will need to register with the package group. When a kernel with a new ABI is available, it won'

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 19:23 +0200, David Paleino a écrit : > > One of the issues I’m wondering about is: how do you ensure you always > > have the kernel headers for the installed kernels? > > Some kind of check inside DKMS? In the end, that's a Bash script, and

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:43:39 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 19:23 +0200, David Paleino a écrit : > > > One of the issues I’m wondering about is: how do you ensure you always > > > have the kernel headers for the installed kernels? > > &g

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 07:43:39PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 19:23 +0200, David Paleino a écrit : > > > One of the issues I’m wondering about is: how do you ensure you always > > > have the kernel headers for the installed kernels? > &

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 17:29 +0200, David Paleino a écrit : > > > 1) It includes a kernel postinstall hook. This means that, the moment > > > kernel > > > headers get installed, your modules are automatically rebuilt. > > > > Seems just as easy

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:50:35 +0200, David Paleino wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:43:39 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > You’d run into the same issue as module-assistant has: a package being > > installed cannot launch installation of other packages. > > Uhm, right. > I believe there could be

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:52:39 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 07:43:39PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 19:23 +0200, David Paleino a écrit : > > > > One of the issues I’m wondering about is: how do you ensure you always &g

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
always > > > > have the kernel headers for the installed kernels? > > > > > > Some kind of check inside DKMS? In the end, that's a Bash script, and the > > > Debian maintainer (i.e. me, in this case) could just maintain a patch for > > > this (or

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
dkms? Just install build-essential (and what else is needed) alongside with the proper linux-headers-* package. > What is the name of the generated deb package? Can two packages of > different kernel architectures liv in the same system? 2.6.26-1-486 and > 2.6.26-1-686 . DKMS *does* *not* generat

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
> > > One of the issues I’m wondering about is: how do you ensure you always > > > > > have the kernel headers for the installed kernels? > > > > > > > > Some kind of check inside DKMS? In the end, that's a Bash script, and > >

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
gt; > trick at least for the default kernel. (Depending on just > > > linux-headers-2.6 is not enough, since linux-headers-2.6.xx-y-$subarch > > > provides it). > > > > I think you meant: > > > > depend on linux-headers-2.6.26-1-all > > >

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread sean finney
-init-tools so that these directories were included in the search path for modprobe. note that this is non-conflicting with rolling the modules into a .deb package too, but i think is the only clean way to build/install kernel modules if you are already within the package installation process. sean signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:24:53 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 20:02 +0200, David Paleino a écrit : > > apt-get is able to determine the architecture he's running on, right? > > Anyways, dkms is a shells script, it could use dpkg-architecture to get the > > right string

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
an alternative, i'd suggest: > > - building the modules as part of the upgrade process using dpkg triggers or > some other clever mechanism to determine when it needs to be done Ok, this is what I was trying to suggest :) > - storing the modules in a nested subdirectory

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 21:44 +0200, David Paleino a écrit : > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:24:53 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > You cannot install packages in a triggered script, or in whatever way > > that will be determined from within a package itself. > > Is there any particular reason for

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread David Paleino
rint a message suggesting what to do next > > > > From your reply, I understand that b1) wouldn't be possible to achieve. Why? > > Can't triggers start external programs? > > Triggers are run from within dpkg, and cannot launch new APT/dpkg > processes. And in all

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 10:00 +0200, David Paleino wrote: > *Other* > > 5) Interoperability with different distributions. DKMS tarballs can be used on > RHEL, SuSE, Ubuntu, or Debian. If there are different kernels, patches can be > included in the DKMS tarball to enable support on d

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu, 2008-09-11 at 21:32 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Note, we would also need to ensure that alien does a good job > with DKMS RPMs. dkms can build deb packages. They need dkms to be installed too (so you need it installed on all your servers, not just on the build machine), but it works fine

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu, 2008-09-11 at 18:02 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Do you actually have a working build system? Must you have a build > system on every host? I have one on a testbed yes. I have a box which has dkms, build-essential and headers installed. I import the driver source tarball, run dkms mkde

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu, 2008-09-11 at 10:00 +0200, David Paleino wrote: > This mail is being sent to see what Debian developers (and users) > think about > this framework: it's useless if no package uses it :) I currently use DKMS at work on some servers which run Debian. All other run RHEL, and have fully update

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, David Paleino wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:50:35 +0200, David Paleino wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:43:39 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > You’d run into the same issue as module-assistant has: a package being > > > installed cannot launch installation of other pa

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM, David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > some time ago I filed a RFS [1] for DKMS [2], and Daniel Baumann > asked > me what advantages it had over module-assistant. > After some talking with upstream, here I have the answer. Only down side I worry about is tha

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:24:08PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote: > As I understand, the dpkg maintainer (Michael Vogt) Do you mean "apt maintainer"? TTBOMK, Michael has never been involved with dpkg maintenance; so is this implementation going to be in dpkg, or apt? Cheers, -- Steve Langasek

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 02:51:00PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM, David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > some time ago I filed a RFS [1] for DKMS [2], and Daniel Baumann > > asked > > me what advantages it had over module-assistant. > > After some talking with

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:29:44 -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > > This is achieved through the installation of a script in: > > > > /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/ > > /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ > > /etc/kernel/prerm.d/ > > > > A quick search with apt-file didn

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread David Paleino
ad". We all agree here, no? But, what the case of non-free drivers, for example? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DavidWoodhouse/KmodProposal The main point: "There is no justification for shipping kernel modules as separate packages within Fedora, in either source (dkms payload) or

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
an developers (and users) think about > this framework: it's useless if no package uses it :) Indeed, that's why it's important to have the kernel team involved and Daniel in particular as he currently takes care of linux-modules-{extra,contrib} Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Le best-se

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread David Paleino
@debian-kernel: please see the full thread at <http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/09/msg00229.html> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:00:00 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, Hi Raphael, > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, David Paleino wrote: > > Hello *, > > some time ago I fil

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
gt; http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/KernelModules > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DavidWoodhouse/KmodProposal That may be true for an out-of-tree modules. However, let's recall that Fedora ships with Latest kernel and Debian (Stable) doesn't. Hence Debian should be more concerened with back

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
rectly removed when you remove the kernel image – which is feasible with a trigger – there is nothing wrong with it. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
t you install it, it builds modules for your running kernel. As soon as > you install a new kernel, it will build modules for that kernel too. Any old > kernels that you have, modules will be built as soon as you boot into the > kernel. > Compare this to module-assistant. You have to in

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread David Paleino
s should be the norm. Having many files under /lib that > cannot be tracked by debsums is not something I like. > > [..] > > Another issue: with rpm it is OK to have several packages of the same name > installed on the system. dpkg does not like this. Hence kernel modules > deb

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread David Paleino
o for drivers that we won’t > ship binary packages for. That's why I originally proposed the "DKMS way", i.e.: dkms add [..] dkms remove [..] dkms status [..] ... > As long as the .ko files are correctly removed when you remove the > kernel image – which is feasible with a t

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 01:18:04PM +0200, David Paleino wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:12:59 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Another issue: with rpm it is OK to have several packages of the same name > > installed on the system. dpkg does not like this. Hence kernel modules > &

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread David Paleino
; > installed on the system. dpkg does not like this. Hence kernel modules > > > deb packages have the name $BASE-$KVERS (e.g: lirc-modules-2.6.26-1-686), > > > whereas rpm packages of kernel modules tend to encode $KVERS in the > > > Version field alone. > > &g

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
supplementary package installation. > As long as the .ko files are correctly removed when you remove the > kernel image – which is feasible with a trigger – there is nothing wrong > with it. If you remove dkms, and remove kernel afterwards, you will keep cruft for the eternity. Handling

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
it is possible to achieve that and how much perverted it would be, but I really don’t think this is the good way to go. > > As long as the .ko files are correctly removed when you remove the > > kernel image – which is feasible with a trigger – there is nothing wrong > > with it.

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Mario Limonciello
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Upon initial inspection of the dkms script, it seems to generate > deb packages whose name does not not include $KVERS . But I didn't test > it. > This is correct, because you don't want to have multiple DKMS packages installed to support many

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven, 2008-09-12 at 13:55 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Why? I think this is the only sane way to go for drivers that we > won’t > > ship binary packages for. > > Why? What's wrong with dynamically generating .deb of those modules > and > installing them? That's exactly what “dkms mkdeb” do

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven, 2008-09-12 at 11:32 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > This is a major bug IMHO. It means that at least for i386 > dkms-generated > debs cannot be put in repositories. Thus you require a build > environment > on the target host. No. You only need dkms. -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Descripti

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread José Luis Tallón
arget host. >> > > No. You only need dkms. > Hmm... How does dkms build the modules for a build kernel, then? Surely a compiler and linker must be needed, right? J.L. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread José Luis Tallón
stalled normally, under /lib/modules/${KVERS} and tracked by dpkg. One idea which comes to mind (without further thinking) is to merge both approaches: dkms could become a "subsystem" of module-assistant in Debian: As presented above, installing kernel-headers and/or booting a kernel for whic

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
ceptional; it is for desktops and laptops with non-free graphics and wifi. In most cases you don’t care of having distributable packages. > When the rebuild is triggered by booting with a new kernel, dpkg is not > active and can be invoked to *register* the new modules, hence realizing &g

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:28:49PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On ven, 2008-09-12 at 13:55 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > Why? I think this is the only sane way to go for drivers that we > > won’t > > > ship binary packages for. > > > > Why? What's wrong with dynamically generating .deb

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
exceptional; it is for desktops and > laptops with non-free graphics and wifi. In most cases you don’t care of > having distributable packages. Dell developed dkms for Linux servers it ships. Many servers ship with disk controllers, network controllers and such that are not yet supported i

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-13 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On sam, 2008-09-13 at 00:21 +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote: > > No. You only need dkms. > > > Hmm... How does dkms build the modules for a build kernel, then? > Surely a compiler and linker must be needed, right? You build the module on the build host, then put it on a .deb pa

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-13 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On sam, 2008-09-13 at 06:21 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Can you do that if you generate modules for both 2.6.26-1-686 and > 2.6.26-1-vserver-686 ? Will tell you on monday. -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-13 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette matinée ensoleillée du samedi 13 septembre 2008, vers 09:08, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait : > Do not assume everybody maintaining the system know of dkms (or of m-a > or such). Knowledge of debsums or equivalent should be assumed from > anybody maintaining a Debian s

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-13 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Tzafrir Cohen dijo [Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 07:08:05AM +]: > > > - Having files *vital* to the system not tracked by dpkg is > > > counter-productive. At the very least it thwarts the most basic and > > > obvious way of integrity protection. > > > > Dpkg is not tripwire. If you think you can re

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 09:32:41PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Tzafrir Cohen dijo [Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 07:08:05AM +]: > > > > - Having files *vital* to the system not tracked by dpkg is > > > > counter-productive. At the very least it thwarts the most basic and > > > > obvious way of integrit

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-14 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 13 septembre 2008 à 07:08 +, Tzafrir Cohen a écrit : > And as I mentioned before, the problem with those generated debs is that > you can not install two of them on your system if you have two different > kernel variants. Then it is a bug in the Debian dkms package, and

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-14 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim, 2008-09-14 at 09:15 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 13 septembre 2008 à 07:08 +, Tzafrir Cohen a écrit : > > And as I mentioned before, the problem with those generated debs is > that > > you can not install two of them on your system if you have two >

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 10:02 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > That may be true for an out-of-tree modules. However, let's recall that > Fedora ships with Latest kernel and Debian (Stable) doesn't. Hence > Debian should be more concerened with backporting. Right now Debian d

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 15 septembre 2008 à 07:54 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit : > On dim, 2008-09-14 at 22:36 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > (DKMS actually moves the old version out of the way and > > moves the new version into its place. I think we might want to modify > > that behaviour in Debian, perhap

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-17 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:00:38 +0200, David Paleino wrote: > Hello *, > some time ago I filed a RFS [1] for DKMS [2] So, what's the final status of this thread? Should I continue working on the package? Should I drop it? I wouldn't want to drop it -- if there's no consensus or, at least, someone w

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 22:33 +0200, David Paleino wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:00:38 +0200, David Paleino wrote: > > > Hello *, > > some time ago I filed a RFS [1] for DKMS [2] > > So, what's the final status of this thread? > Should I continue working on the package? Should I drop it? > > I w

Re: RFC: DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module Support

2008-09-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer, 2008-09-17 at 22:33 +0200, David Paleino wrote: > Should I continue working on DKMS for Debian, or is that all wasted > time? Go ahead, it *will* be useful, and isn't intended to replace module-assistant anyway. It may have some problems, but they will be identified, reported and fixed. C

Possibility for dependencies against specific kernel modules

2008-10-31 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi folks Because of some recent events, I thought about the possibility for packages to depend against kernel module packages. As we don't want to dictate the usage of Debian provided kernels, we need a last resort fallback to the modules source. My first solution was something lik

Re: docbook kernel docs and debian unstable

2003-06-20 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
AFAICT debian-user would have been a more appropriate place for this. On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 16:25:54 -0400, John F Davis wrote: > I am trying to read the docs in the Documentation/DocBook directory of a > linux kernel. > > I do this: make pdfdocs and I get an error about nee

kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
Hey list, Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). The result is that the parts which don't run under fakeroot - e.g. debian/rules won't be able to write to

Re: Kernel build dependencies for prepackaged modules

2003-07-03 Thread Herbert Xu
David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My kernel module packages (lm-sensors and i2c) both build-depend on > kernel-build-2.4.20-1, which provides enough bits to build packages > (as far as I can tell, successfully). Problem is, evidence suggests > that kernel-build-2.4.20-1

Re: Kernel build dependencies for prepackaged modules

2003-07-03 Thread David Z Maze
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How many Debian users are there that will use lm-sensors and i2c > modules for a prepackaged kernel on a non-i386 architecture? I've had at least one user ask me about support for powerpc, which is the big thing that's driving me to

Re: Multi-level symlinks for default kernel

2003-07-22 Thread Morgon Kanter
k altogether and just have /boot/vmlinuz point to the proper kernel image? (on my system there is no symlink, I just update grub to point to a new kernel image). I don't see what grub has to be patched for. Morgon -- "Man is the only creature capable of hating itself" -- Governor of Japan in The End of Evangelion

Re: Multi-level symlinks for default kernel

2003-07-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
Last time I posted something comprehensive, they nit picked the hell out of it on the list. So I'm going for the incremental style. > kernel image? (on my system there is no symlink, I just update grub to > point to a new kernel image). I do

Re: Multi-level symlinks for default kernel

2003-07-23 Thread Mike Fedyk
> > symlink to boot from. > > In this situation, why don't you just forget about the /vmlinuz > symlink altogether and just have /boot/vmlinuz point to the proper > kernel image? That is exactly what I want. But /vmlinuz -> /boot/vmlinuz, and vmlinuz.old -> /boot/

Re: Multi-level symlinks for default kernel

2003-07-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
oot loader because of software raid, or possibly lvm > (haven't done this yet, but thinking about it). > I regularly build my own kernels with make-kpkg, so I changed it to > put the vmlinuz symlink in /boot, and changed my menu.lst file in > grub to use this symlink to boot from

Re: Multi-level symlinks for default kernel

2003-07-25 Thread Mike Fedyk
debian-policy@lists.debian.org Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Multi-level symlinks for default kernel Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:17:27AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:29:59 -0700, Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL P

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Paul . Hampson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:37:40AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: > > gcc --version > gcc (GCC) 3.3.2 20030812 (Debian prerelease) > I'm getting a new error when I compile the kernel. In the structure > below, it doesn't like the declaration for slot_tablen complaining

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Ben Collins
> __u8 short slot_tablelen; Isn't it just a plain error? Either it's a char, or it's a short. It can't be both, right? -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:44:11PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > __u8 short slot_tablelen; > > Isn't it just a plain error? Either it's a char, or it's a short. It > can't be both, right? That's what I think, too. It looks, too, to be something added in a patch because the indentation is dif

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > __u8 short slot_tablelen; > > Isn't it just a plain error? Either it's a char, or it's a short. It > can't be both, right? gcc used to eat it but now it rightfully complains about it. Its a bug in the source. MfG Goswin

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 02:37, Marc Singer wrote: > Are we expecting the latest unstalble gcc compiler to correctly > compiler the kernel? Yes, as others have mentioned the code in question is buggy. If the code is in a Debian kernel-source or kernel-patch package then please file a bug

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * martin f krafft [Sun, Aug 24 2003, 01:00:47PM]: > Thinking about it, I argue that it would be better to install them > into /lib/modules/`uname -r`/bcm since > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel is the hierarchy used by the > kernel-image and should not be touched by additi

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.24.1353 +0200]: > IMHO the right location is /lib/modules/`uname -r`/net. So what about Bug#189297? Where then should comedi install itself? comedi drivers are for data acquisition cards. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Where then should comedi install itself? comedi drivers are for data > acquisition cards. /lib/modules/VERSION/misc? -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more in

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:00:47PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > i see pcmcia-source and comedi-source installing the modules into > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/pcmcia and /lib/modules/`uname -r`/comedi. > my bcm4400-source and bcm5700-source packages install into > /lib/modules/`unam

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:03:23PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Where then should comedi install itself? comedi drivers are for data > > acquisition cards. > > /lib/modules/VERSION/misc? no. that's wrong for 2.4+ kernels.

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:13:03PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > no. that's wrong for 2.4+ kernels. > > Interesting, as it seems to be the status quo; I have a bunch of > modules in /lib/modules/2.4.21/misc (from four different modules > packag

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > no. that's wrong for 2.4+ kernels. Interesting, as it seems to be the status quo; I have a bunch of modules in /lib/modules/2.4.21/misc (from four different modules packages produced via make-kpkg), which incidentally all seem to load fine. No nee

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread Eduard Bloch
Moin Christoph! Christoph Hellwig schrieb am Sunday, den 24. August 2003: > > > Where then should comedi install itself? comedi drivers are for data > > > acquisition cards. > > > > /lib/modules/VERSION/misc? > > no. that's wrong for 2.4+ kernels. Any evidence? AFAICS modutils don't have probl

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.24.1806 +0200]: > the right place is /lib/modules/${kver}/${package} says who? -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and us

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