Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Cyril Brulebois writes ("Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)"): > Ian Jackson (26/07/2012): > > Uploaders needs to be abolished in favour of multiple > > Mainta

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Ian Jackson (26/07/2012): > Uploaders needs to be abolished in favour of multiple > Maintainers. In wheezy perhaps ? I'm pretty sure the answer is no. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 18:54 +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > On 07/26/2012 03:29 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: ... > > We also need a general word for "someone involved with Debian in a > > positive way". "Participant" is clumsy; "member of the community" > > even more so. "Person" might do but word with a mor

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Luk Claes
On 07/26/2012 03:29 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Developer, DD > As per the constitution; includes non-uploading DDs. > New Maintainer needs to be renamed to New Developer. > > [Non-]Uploading Developer > To distinguish where necessary, but usually we can use > Sponsor instea

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2012, Ian Jackson wrote: > Heh, like that's going to work in Debian. What we could do though is > try harder to use the nouns we do have more consistently. Heh, like that's going to work in Debian. ;-) Actually I do think introducing new _and better/good_ terms wor

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Michael Shuler
On 07/26/2012 08:37 AM, The Fungi wrote: > On 2012-07-26 14:29:14 +0100 (+0100), Ian Jackson wrote: > [...] >> We also need a general word for "someone involved with Debian in a >> positive way". "Participant" is clumsy; "member of the community" >> even more so. "Person" might do but word with a m

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread The Fungi
On 2012-07-26 14:29:14 +0100 (+0100), Ian Jackson wrote: [...] > We also need a general word for "someone involved with Debian in a > positive way". "Participant" is clumsy; "member of the community" > even more so. "Person" might do but word with a more positive spin > would be nice. As a long-ti

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Andrey Rahmatullin writes ("Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)"): > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I am not in favour of this change. The p

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Jon Dowland writes ("Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)"): > I'm not overly interested in the word developer being eradicated, but at > the very least having some consistency

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > We are in the process of discussing a variety of constitutional amendments > > > to be raised by the tech-ctte that will hopefully end up creating a sort > > > of bundle of constitutional fixes to vote on. Perhaps it would be good

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Jon Dowland writes ("Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to > mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs > conflict)"): > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15:15AM

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Jon Dowland writes ("Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)"): > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15:15AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > We are in the process of discussing a variet

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-25 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15:15AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > We are in the process of discussing a variety of constitutional amendments > to be raised by the tech-ctte that will hopefully end up creating a sort > of bundle of constitutional fixes to vote on. Perhaps it would be good to > includ

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-25 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Yes, as the new wording is logically inconsistent. *By definition* a Debian > Project Member, as the term is being used here, is someone who has voting > rights. The term "Debian Developer" was being used to distinguish between > p

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:20:47AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : > > Personally I don't think we need separate terms for voting member with > uploading rights and those without such rights; in the few cases where > the difference matters, it's easier (I think also better) to spell it > out rathe

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-25 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15:15AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 07:49:06AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > >> Our constitution does not talk about project members, and instead uses > >> the word "developer". > > > In fact, the Constitution

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 07:49:06AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> Our constitution does not talk about project members, and instead uses >> the word "developer". > In fact, the Constitution uses interchangeably "member" and "developer". > (And that is one of the ba

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 07:49:06AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Our constitution does not talk about project members, and instead uses > the word "developer". In fact, the Constitution uses interchangeably "member" and "developer". (And that is one of the basis for the slow shift towards "membe

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-24 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Yes, as the new wording is logically inconsistent. *By definition* a Debian > Project Member, as the term is being used here, is someone who has voting > rights. The term "Debian Developer" was being used to distinguish between > p

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 09:43:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 02:23:50AM +0200, Ulrich Dangel a écrit : > > >From http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper: > > A Debian developer (DD) is a Debian Project Member who has uploading rights. > this page (and probably others)

Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Thread broken as topic changes. In-Reply-To: <500f3c96.90...@spamt.net> Le Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 02:23:50AM +0200, Ulrich Dangel a écrit : > > >From http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper: > A Debian developer (DD) is a Debian Project Member who has uploading rights. Hi Ulrich, this page (and pr