Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-18 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:28:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: > One final point. We will almost definitely not switch the default > python in sid (current unstable), until there is talk that Sarge is > nearing a freeze. There is simply no point in undergoing the pain of > a major python release tw

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-16 Thread Laura Creighton
> On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: > > The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is > > what is this? The link is dead. Is this the former PSA? No. My brain was tired -- it was python-in-business.org. Apologies. We are new. We are a Business Non-Profit Society 'to organise

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-15 Thread Guido van Rossum
> On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: > > The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is > > what is this? The link is dead. Is this the former PSA? Try www.python-in-business.org. It's a Swedish non-profit created earlier this year. > Guido van Rossum writes: > > > Now, if 2.3 w

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: > The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is what is this? The link is dead. Is this the former PSA? Guido van Rossum writes: > > Now, if 2.3 won't be stable until well into next year (as opposed to > > the schedule in PEP 283), then we may w

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:28:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: > > Laura: (and Guido et al.) > > Debian plans to support at least Python 2.2 and 2.3 in the next > > release (sarge); [...] > One final point. We will almost definitely not switch the default > python in sid (current unstable), until ther

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:28:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:54:31PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: [...] > One final point. We will almost definitely not switch the default > python in sid (current unstable), until there is talk that

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Laura Creighton
> BTW: is the PIAT consortium going to offer any DSFG free software? > > Jim Penny It is the PIT-SIG, not consortium, which is part of the Python Business Forum. You can read our bylaws here: www.python-in-business.org/about/bylaws (if you care to). We didn't come together for the Purpose

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:54:31PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: > > The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is > > collaborating with the Python developers to produce Python-in-a-Tie, > > a business-targetted release of Python. This is a 'Sumo

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
> Now, if 2.3 won't be stable until well into next year (as opposed to > the schedule in PEP 283), then we may want to target 2.2.x as our > default version. Which version of PEP 283 are you referring to? It once had us release the final version around the end of August. But the current version

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: > The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is > collaborating with the Python developers to produce Python-in-a-Tie, > a business-targetted release of Python. This is a 'Sumo-Release', > which will include other useful Python libraries and progra

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
> Laura Creighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Okay, I (and several other people) are confused. What does > > 'the next default python' and 'skipping 2.2 entirely' that Chris Lawrence > > writes mean? > > It means that, if realized, the next Debian release would have: > - python 2.3 in th

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Florent Rougon
Laura Creighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, I (and several other people) are confused. What does > 'the next default python' and 'skipping 2.2 entirely' that Chris Lawrence > writes mean? It means that, if realized, the next Debian release would have: - python 2.3 in the "standard" set

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Laura Creighton
Okay, I (and several other people) are confused. What does 'the next default python' and 'skipping 2.2 entirely' that Chris Lawrence writes mean? If typing apt-get is the hardest technical thing you ever do, I want you to get 2.2, not 2.1 or 2.3 when you decide to get Python. Also, I want devel

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
> > Thanks for the post, Laura. I agree -- Python 2.3 won't be ready for > > a long time, and I recommend to the Debian folks that they > > standardize on Python 2.2. For now, that will be Python 2.2.1; a > > maintenance release, 2.2.2 will be issued some time later this year. > > > > But Zope

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:02:18AM -0400, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Thanks for the post, Laura. I agree -- Python 2.3 won't be ready for > a long time, and I recommend to the Debian folks that they > standardize on Python 2.2. For now, that will be Python 2.2.1; a > maintenance release, 2.2.2 wil

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 03:25:01PM +0200, Laura Creighton wrote: > >>On Aug 06, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > >>As the new upstream of python-gnome (for GNOME 2) needs python 2.2 for > >>building I am wondering when python 2.2 will get the default version > >>for Debian. Any insights? > > > >I believ

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
3 to reach maturity until mid 2003. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) [Context:] > Subject: Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release? > From: Laura Creighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Laura Creighton
>>On Aug 06, Torsten Landschoff wrote: >>As the new upstream of python-gnome (for GNOME 2) needs python 2.2 for >>building I am wondering when python 2.2 will get the default version >>for Debian. Any insights? > >I believe a consensus was reached on debian-python that we would move >to Python 2.3