Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-18 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Miles Bader necel.com> writes: > Dirk Eddelbuettel debian.org> writes: > > Differently put, why do you think that NOT having current versions > > of a popular library, here wxwidgets in version 2.8, is a feature > > and not a bug? > > I don't. I'm just questioning the (apparent) assertion tha

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-14 Thread Miles Bader
Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > if you appreciate using Debian as a development platform, the fact >> > that CodeBlocks can't be built on it is IMHO a pretty critical >> > problem. >> >> Why? > > Maybe "because not being able to build" and "development platform" don't go so > we

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-13 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Miles Bader necel.com> writes: > Vadim Zeitlin wxwidgets.org> writes: > > if you appreciate using Debian as a development platform, the fact > > that CodeBlocks can't be built on it is IMHO a pretty critical > > problem. > > Why? Maybe "because not being able to build" and "development platform

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-12 Thread Miles Bader
Vadim Zeitlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > if you appreciate using Debian as a development platform, the fact > that CodeBlocks can't be built on it is IMHO a pretty critical > problem. Why? -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneat

Re[2]: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-12 Thread Vadim Zeitlin
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:07:10 -0600 William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: WP> On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 00:55 +0100, Vadim Zeitlin wrote: WP> > And, seeing from your signature that you're both a Debian and Ubuntu WP> > developer, I'd like to notice that Ubuntu doesn't seem to find WP> > anything

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-12 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 00:55 +0100, Vadim Zeitlin wrote: > And, seeing from your signature that you're both a Debian and Ubuntu > developer, I'd like to notice that Ubuntu doesn't seem to find > anything > catastrophic with shipping wx2.8 which it does since quite some time. So Ubuntu ships w

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-12 Thread Vadim Zeitlin
[for some previous context please see the thread starting at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/12/msg00520.html] On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:19:27 -0800 Steve Langasek wrote: > Currently, the packages that are asking for wx2.8 are almost all available > and releasable in earlier versions, buil

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-07 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Feb 7, 2008 8:52 PM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for being naive but why these ones ? Who is Bastian Kleineidam He is a DD, so I chose his packages over wxwidget's on the assumption that he is more familiar with packaging. Feel free to try the other one and decide if obe sui

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-07 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 09:19:05AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008 2:58 AM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Sorry if I have broken protocol by taking this off list. I am interested in > > using 2.8, > > truecrypt relies upon this. > > No problem, though others might

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-05 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Feb 4, 2008 6:24 PM, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard, please don't profess to speak for me -- especially not couched > in terms such as "more or less". There were several things that people > tried to explain to you in that discussion that you 'more or less' > refused to accept, so p

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-04 Thread Miles Bader
Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wearing a Debian 'user' as well as 'developer' hat, I was stopped in the > tracks > a few days ago when I tried to look at some C/c++ IDE (code::blocks) which > would > not configure on my testing box due to a lack of wxWidgets 2.8. > > Not nice at

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-04 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Steve Langasek debian.org> writes: > On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 08:06:22PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Well, if we advise users to compile their stuff on their own > > something is broken. If we can not provide the latest upstream > > version of a certain end user application because we are miss

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-04 Thread Ron
> Richard Hartmann writes: > after some discussion on #debian-devel yesterday, two options were more > or less agreed upon with Ron Lee: Richard, please don't profess to speak for me -- especially not couched in terms such as "more or less". There were several things that people tried to explain

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-04 Thread Richard Hartmann
Hi again, after some discussion on #debian-devel yesterday, two options were more or less agreed upon with Ron Lee: 1) People who have an interest in 2.8 contact Ron to work together. 2) People are free to upload 2.8 as a separate package without him minding the fact that his namespace

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 04:30:09PM -0600, William Pitcock wrote: > > Currently, the packages that are asking for wx2.8 are almost all available > > and releasable in earlier versions, built against wx2.6. Uploading wx2.8 to > > unstable implies that it's suitable for apps to build against, which b

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-03 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 14:19 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 08:06:22PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: > > >> I think that's contention, the difference in opinion between the > >> package maintainer and some users about what so

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 08:06:22PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: >> I think that's contention, the difference in opinion between the >> package maintainer and some users about what software Debian should >> provide. > Well, if we advise users to compile

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-03 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: I think that's contention, the difference in opinion between the package maintainer and some users about what software Debian should provide. Well, if we advise users to compile their stuff on their own something is broken. If we can not provide the

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-03 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Richard Hartmann wrote: On Feb 3, 2008 4:13 AM, Kevin Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I see an "other option" and it is straightforward. Do like what was done in lenny with wxwidget2.4 and my package ctsim which requires wxwidgets 2.4. They were removed from Debian tes

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-03 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Feb 3, 2008 4:13 AM, Kevin Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see an "other option" and it is straightforward. Do like what was > done in lenny with wxwidget2.4 and my package ctsim which requires > wxwidgets 2.4. They were removed from Debian testing and it's not a > problem. Simply down

Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-02 Thread Richard Hartmann
This is a copy of what I just sent to the following bugs: #403237, #415677, #425647, #440330. I wanted to put debian-devel on the CC, but simply forgot to. Sorry. Hi all, hi Ron. I am fully aware that this is not a nice thing to propose and I know that even though Ron does not know me and proba