Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-25 Thread Paul Sheer
> - I would not be able to include the new crypto features in the package >anyway due to US export laws. no, the US version contains no crypto code. > (Debian packages are binary only, and Both the source and binary US versions of mirrordir contain no crypto code. >FTP connectivity is

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-25 Thread James R. Van Zandt
Paul Sheer wrote: >I remember someone was maintaining the debian release of this software >(although then, it did not support encryption). Please get the latest >version from: > ftp://lava.obsidian.co.za/pub/mirrordir/US/ I maintain the Debian package of mirrordir. The last version I packa

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-24 Thread Bear Giles
Wichert wrote: > Previously Paul Sheer wrote: > > Also: there is no GPL secure shell (as far as I know). > > But people are working on that. From what I hear it's on the verge of > becoming useable. Don't ask me about the name, I always forget it. MIT Kerberos (4 and 5) is open source and provide

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-24 Thread Jules Bean
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Paul Sheer wrote: > > Also: there is no GPL secure shell (as far as I know). > > But people are working on that. From what I hear it's on the verge of > becoming useable. Don't ask me about the name, I always forget it. It's called psst.

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Paul Sheer wrote: > Also: there is no GPL secure shell (as far as I know). But people are working on that. From what I hear it's on the verge of becoming useable. Don't ask me about the name, I always forget it. Wichert. --

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-24 Thread Paul Sheer
On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Bear Giles wrote: > > It supports strong encryption but is exportable from > > the US because it does not have encryption compiled in by default. Instead > > it downloads the scripts it needs from South Africa when it runs for the > > first time. > > This is *extremely* risk

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-24 Thread Raul Miller
Bear Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem isn't in *producing* a package, it's in *acquiring* that > package later. What happens if someone successfully attacks a site > immediately before you mirror it? What happens if someone replaces a PGP signature? Answer: people notice. [Conside

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-24 Thread Bear Giles
> Bear Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But you're biting your own tail here. Where do you get that "good" > > checksum? > > Any place which is acceptable to the package maintainer -- perhaps out > of a pgp signed archive. Remember, the start of this discussion was an (FTP) mirroring program

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-23 Thread Raul Miller
Bear Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But you're biting your own tail here. Where do you get that "good" > checksum? Any place which is acceptable to the package maintainer -- perhaps out of a pgp signed archive. If the package maintainer can't produce a trustable package, it doesn't matter ho

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-23 Thread Bear Giles
> Bear Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only thing resilient to compromised servers are cryptographically > > signed cryptographic checksums. Which requires PGP. Which is not > > exportable. And which requires a "chain of trust" to evaluate > > whether to trust the key used to sign the

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-23 Thread Raul Miller
Bear Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only thing resilient to compromised servers are cryptographically > signed cryptographic checksums. Which requires PGP. Which is not > exportable. And which requires a "chain of trust" to evaluate > whether to trust the key used to sign the checksum.

Re: Crypto software that *is* exportable from the USA

1999-01-23 Thread Bear Giles
> It supports strong encryption but is exportable from > the US because it does not have encryption compiled in by default. Instead > it downloads the scripts it needs from South Africa when it runs for the > first time. This is *extremely* risky behavior. FTP and HTTP sites *are* compromised.