Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-09 Thread marciotex
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi. My dillema: 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or 2) compile docs in build-time Pros of 1: build-time and Build-Depends Pros of 2: diff.gz and unnecessary manual intervention of downstream maintainer (me :) ) So, what are best practices about this?

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi. My dillema: 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or 2) compile docs in build-time Pros of 1: build-time and Build-Depends Cons: - Docs that can be unbuildable or out of sync with the source. - Binary files in the diff.gz (have fun with that one) either

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Junichi Uekawa | Another aspect is maintenance cost. Auto* tools and docbook toolchain, | and tex toolchain may break, which means packages no longer | build. This, I believe, shouldn't really be considered a reason not to | build-depend; because it will be the users who will suffer from a |

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-06 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, It seems like it would be quite taxing on the autobuilders to have to pull something like docbook (and its chain of dependencies) into a pbuilder just to recompile a manpage that doesn't change between architectures. AIUI, the autobuilders use sbuild and don't purge the

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
Steinar H. Gunderson skrev: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 07:25:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or 2) compile docs in build-time Definitely the latter. We build stuff at build time for a reason, architecture-specific or -independent alike. That depends a bit

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-05 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tony mancill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 07:25:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or 2) compile docs in build-time Definitely the latter. We build stuff at build time for a

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-05 Thread Junichi Uekawa
1) compile docs pre-build-time; or 2) compile docs in build-time Definitely the latter. We build stuff at build time for a reason, architecture-specific or -independent alike. That depends a bit on the stuff. A lot of maintainers think running auto* to generate configure and

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 09:04:48PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tony mancill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 07:25:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or 2) compile docs in build-time Definitely the

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 04:45:21PM -0700, tony mancill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 07:25:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or 2) compile docs in build-time Definitely

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 09:18:20PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: tony mancill wrote: It seems like it would be quite taxing on the autobuilders to have to pull something like docbook (and its chain of dependencies) into a pbuilder just to recompile a manpage that doesn't change

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 09:45:16PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Another aspect is maintenance cost. Auto* tools and docbook toolchain, and tex toolchain may break, which means packages no longer build. This, I believe, shouldn't really be considered a reason not to build-depend; because it

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Wouter Verhelst wrote: No, that's not true; packages that are installed at the beginning of a build run are removed at the end. The main difference between pbuilder and sbuild is the fact that sbuild uses an existing chroot on which it works (or even builds in your main system if you have no

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-04 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 07:25:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or 2) compile docs in build-time Definitely the latter. We build stuff at build time for a reason, architecture-specific or -independent alike. /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-04 Thread tony mancill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 07:25:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or 2) compile docs in build-time Definitely the latter. We build stuff at build time for a reason,

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-04 Thread marciotex
tony mancill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 07:25:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or 2) compile docs in build-time Definitely the latter. We build stuff at build time for a reason, architecture-specific

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
tony mancill wrote: It seems like it would be quite taxing on the autobuilders to have to pull something like docbook (and its chain of dependencies) into a pbuilder just to recompile a manpage that doesn't change between architectures. AIUI, the autobuilders use sbuild and don't purge the