Hi,
Many shell apps/scripts output data in tables, for example ls -l, ps
aux, top, netstat, etc.
At the moment, most of these apps use fixed-width columns with a
variable-width last-column.
This results in (unnecessary) truncation, for example:
Debian- 11918 0.0 0.1 4428 1464 ?Ss
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 07:40:10PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> Many shell apps/scripts output data in tables, for example ls -l, ps
> aux, top, netstat, etc.
> At the moment, most of these apps use fixed-width columns with a
> variable-width last-column.
> This results in (unnecessary
On 6/13/05, GOMBAS Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Are there already any plans to solve these issues?
>
> Yes. The commands you mention were designed for _human_ consumption. Do
> not use them in scripts without good reasons. There are a lot of
The maintainer of netstat didn't want to change
* Gabor ::
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 07:40:10PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
>
> > Many shell apps/scripts output data in tables, for example ls
> > -l, ps aux, top, netstat, etc. At the moment, most of these
> > apps use fixed-width columns with a variable-width last-column.
> > This
On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What Olaf *really* seems to want is a resource like the new (vapor?)
> Monad shell from MS. Which can be a good thing, if done right, but
> is generally a waste of CPU and memory, if you ask me. As you said,
> there is not a lot of d
* Olaf ::
> On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > printf "%-50.50s %d\n", $_, -s $_ for <*.ab>
> >
> > in Perl. The domain is necessary anyway, ie, you have to know
> > Monad to understand the first, you have to know perl to grok the
> > second.
>
> Except that in
On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not necessarily. Just as you have "tableout" as an external command
> (built-in or not) in Monad, you can have a Perl module to print
> things in a tabular manner, expanding the column sizes as needed
> (based on HTML::Format::Table
On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, and I withdraw :-) what I said about XML. But *any*
> serialization / deserialization necessary for this scheme to work
> would add (unnecessary) overhead. This and the fact that you would
Well, if you can do it with Perl witho
* Olaf ::
> On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Yes, and I withdraw :-) what I said about XML. But *any*
> > serialization / deserialization necessary for this scheme to
> > work would add (unnecessary) overhead. This and the fact that
> > you would
>
> Well, if y
> On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Not necessarily. Just as you have "tableout" as an external
> > command (built-in or not) in Monad, you can have a Perl module
> > to print things in a tabular manner, expanding the column sizes
> > as needed (based on HTML::Fo
On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, if you can do it with Perl without overhead, you can of
> > course also do it without Perl without overhead. In that case the
> > 'structured' support would be included
>
> Not exactly. Don't get me wrong, object component
On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are a lot of scripts today in production use that use the
> output of ls, ps, in a text-way. If you want to put another command,
> or another switch to "ls", ok, but the fact that you *can* do it
> does not mean that you *shoul
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