Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

So upgraded systems don't get the benefits of certain changes to the installer's defaults, or defaults in programs used by the installer. I first thought of this when I noticed the change in the default tuning for ext2 partitions created by mke2fs. Notably, dir_index and filetype are turned on

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

Hi, On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 12:24:09AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > So upgraded systems don't get the benefits of certain changes to the > installer's > defaults, or defaults in programs used by the installer. > > [...] Perhaps people could comment on other things like this which > they've

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

[Theodore Tso] > The e2fsprogs-udeb package does include the mke2fs.conf file, so if > the installer is using the latest e2fsprogs-udeb, it should be > creating filesystems with the dir_index and resize_inode features. Soon the etch installer is using the latest mkfs.ext3 to create the file system

More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

(I would add this to the Wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/Sarge2EtchUpgrade but someone made it immutable...) #1. Just noticed that /etc/network/interfaces is set up differently on new installs; it uses udev/hotplug now by default, while it didn't before. On old installs it looks like this:

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So upgraded systems don't get the benefits of certain changes to the > installer's > defaults, or defaults in programs used by the installer. > > I first thought of this when I noticed the change in the default tuning for > ext2 partitions created b

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

On Thursday 03 August 2006 06:24, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > So upgraded systems don't get the benefits of certain changes to the > installer's defaults, or defaults in programs used by the installer. Anyobdy (Marco d'Itri?) can add some comments regardin

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

Hello! On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:05:10 +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Thursday 03 August 2006 06:24, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> So upgraded systems don't get the benefits of certain changes to the >> installer's defaults, or defaults in programs used by the installer. > >

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 12:24:09AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So upgraded systems don't get the benefits of certain changes to the > installer's > defaults, or defaults in programs used by the installer. > > I first thought of this when I noticed the change in the defa

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

[Mike Hommey] > I don't know about the installer, but all filesystems I created with > mke2fs recently also have resize_inode, which isn't even in the > tune2fs manpage. The default was recently changed in /etc/mke2fs.conf. It make life with LVM a lot easier. :) Friendly, -- Petter Reinholdtse

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:02:34PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > For dir_index you have to take the FS offline, tune2fs and fsck it or > you totaly corrupt it. Actually, that's not true. It's perfectly safe to run tune2fs on a mounted volume to enable the dir_index feature. All directorie

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 07:58:20PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > I don't know about the installer, but all filesystems I created with > mke2fs recently also have resize_inode, which isn't even in the tune2fs > manpage. It's not in the tune2fs man page because e2fsprogs doesn't currently support addi

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:02:34PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> For dir_index you have to take the FS offline, tune2fs and fsck it or >> you totaly corrupt it. > > Actually, that's not true. It's perfectly safe to run tune2fs on a > mounted volu

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 10:53:14AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Did they fix that? When I first looked into dir_index it was said that > it would corrupt the directories since it would search the old linear > dirs via hash and insert new entries by hash into linear dirs. Who said that? I

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 10:53:14AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Did they fix that? When I first looked into dir_index it was said that >> it would corrupt the directories since it would search the old linear >> dirs via hash and insert new entrie

Re: More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

* Nathanael Nerode: > While on new installs it looks like this: > -- > # This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces. > # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem. And, as discussed before, this doesn't work reliably on all systems. 8-( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

Florian Weimer schrieb: > * Nathanael Nerode: > >> While on new installs it looks like this: >> -- >> # This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces. >> # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem. > > And, as discussed before, this doesn't work reliably on all >

Re: More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

Bastian Venthur wrote: > I've written a bugreport (#403706) which was discussed for a long time > until it finally was downgraded from grave to important and became a > "documentation issue" the for release-notes. > > A questionable move especially since I know from debian-user-german that > many u

Re: More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

Nathanael Nerode wrote: > (I would add this to the Wiki page > http://wiki.debian.org/Sarge2EtchUpgrade but someone made it immutable...) Seems editable here.. > #1. > Just noticed that /etc/network/interfaces is set up differently on new > installs; > it uses udev/hotplug now by default, whil

Re: More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 12:30:30AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > (I would add this to the Wiki page > http://wiki.debian.org/Sarge2EtchUpgrade but someone made it immutable...) The information you posted belongs to release-notes's BTS, not to the wiki (as the wiki tries to track a sarge->etch

Re: More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 10:45:46AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 12:30:30AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > (I would add this to the Wiki page > > http://wiki.debian.org/Sarge2EtchUpgrade but someone made it immutable...) > > The information you posted

Re: More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

On 3/26/07, Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (I would add this to the Wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/Sarge2EtchUpgrade but someone made it immutable...) It's not immutable when you log in. -- Andrew Donnellan ajdlinuxATgmailDOTcom (primary)ajdlinuxATexemailDOTcomDOTau (secure)

Re: More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

On Mar 26, Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've written a bugreport (#403706) which was discussed for a long time > until it finally was downgraded from grave to important and became a > "documentation issue" the for release-notes. Hopefully for lenny we will switch to upstart, which

Re: More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Joey Hess wrote: Nathanael Nerode wrote: [...] On old installs it looks like this: # The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian installation auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp - While on new installs it looks like this: -- #

Re: More stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade

Joey Hess schrieb: > Bastian Venthur wrote: >> I've written a bugreport (#403706) which was discussed for a long time >> until it finally was downgraded from grave to important and became a >> "documentation issue" the for release-notes. >> >> A questionable move especially since I know from debian