Now that we have a concept of a “team upload”[0], I'd like to have
putting team's name in the changelog trailer officially deprecated.
This would:
1) allow to always identify person responsible for a particular upload;
2) help to avoid situations where (inadvertently) no human name is
mentioned
Hi.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 03:08:50PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> Now that we have a concept of a “team upload”[0], I'd like to have
> putting team's name in the changelog trailer officially deprecated.
>
> This would:
> 1) allow to always identify person responsible for a particular upload;
To
Kumar Appaiah (18/02/2012):
> > This would:
> > 1) allow to always identify person responsible for a particular upload;
>
> To be very pedantic, the signature on the last upload should reveal
> this, right?
Not if the team upload is prepared by someone who then gets sponsored by
a DD (or a DM fr
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 15:08:50 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> What do others think?
>
Yes please.
Cheers,
Julien
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Hi,
Jakub Wilk wrote:
> Now that we have a concept of a “team upload”[0], I'd like to have
> putting team's name in the changelog trailer officially deprecated.
Seconded.
Regards, Axel
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On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> 1) allow to always identify person responsible for a particular upload;
> 2) help to avoid situations where (inadvertently) no human name is mentioned
> in a changelog entry at all.
>
> What do others think?
It would be very appropriate, in Deb
Le Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 05:51:57PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
>
> It'd be nice if debbugs could understand "[ Debian Developer ]" lines
> and give credit to the appropriate individuals when closing bugs
> mentioned in changelogs. But I understand that's not entirely trivial to
> do, and I
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 04:24:39PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Kumar Appaiah (18/02/2012):
> > > This would:
> > > 1) allow to always identify person responsible for a particular upload;
> >
> > To be very pedantic, the signature on the last upload should reveal
> > this, right?
>
> Not if t
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 08:01:14PM -0600, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 04:24:39PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Kumar Appaiah (18/02/2012):
> > > > This would:
> > > > 1) allow to always identify person responsible for a particular upload;
> > >
> > > To be very pedantic, th
On 12-02-19 at 09:59am, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 05:51:57PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> >
> > It'd be nice if debbugs could understand "[ Debian Developer ]"
> > lines and give credit to the appropriate individuals when closing
> > bugs mentioned in changelogs. B
On 19/02/12 11:40, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> In other words, can someone please help post a concrete example of a
> different changelog style than above, involving "Team upload" statement
> so that I understand what is really discussed here?
Preconditions: minetest is maintained by the Games Tea
On 12-02-19 at 11:54am, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On 19/02/12 11:40, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > In other words, can someone please help post a concrete example of a
> > different changelog style than above, involving "Team upload"
> > statement so that I understand what is really discussed here?
>
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:15:19 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>
> Yes, In my opinion that goes for sponsoring too: The sponsor should add
> herself/himself in the changelog to clearly advertise to the World whom
> within the Debian web of trust proof-read and uploaded the packaging.
>
Hi Jonas;
On 12-02-19 at 08:44am, David Bremner wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:15:19 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, In my opinion that goes for sponsoring too: The sponsor should
> > add herself/himself in the changelog to clearly advertise to the
> > World whom within the Debian web of
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 03:21:10PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
[snip]
> That argument has come up before. It is nice that our online machinery
> can infer such information. I still find it much better to simply
> require that the changelog entry reflects in its final line the Debian
> entit
On 12-02-19 at 04:03pm, Simon Chopin wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 03:21:10PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> [snip]
> > That argument has come up before. It is nice that our online
> > machinery can infer such information. I still find it much better
> > to simply require that the changelo
Hi Simon (2012.02.19_17:03:17_+0200)
> It seems to me that the changelog is not the place for that information.
> Its purpose is to document the changes made to the packaging, which is
> totally orthogonal to whether it has been uploaded and by whom.
Uploading is a fairly important change in the p
On 12-02-19 at 11:31am, David Bremner wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:21:10 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard
> wrote:
> > On 12-02-19 at 08:44am, David Bremner wrote:
> > > We have both sponsoring and co-maintenance; there is no rule that
> > > says co-maintainers have have to be DD/DMs.
> >
> > Since o
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:21:10 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 12-02-19 at 08:44am, David Bremner wrote:
> > We have both sponsoring and co-maintenance; there is no rule that says
> > co-maintainers have have to be DD/DMs.
>
> Since only DD/DMs can upload co-maintained packages, same rule appl
Le Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 08:44:37AM -0400, David Bremner a écrit :
>
> what the responsibility of sponsoring is: to act as a gatekeeper, but
> not to promise any further maintenance of the package (other than
> orphaning of the sponsoree goes MIA).
Hi David,
I think that opinions differ on that s
Hi,
Am Sonntag, den 19.02.2012, 12:40 +0100 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
> I understand that adding that "Team upload" statement silences lintian
> when my name is not listed as maintainer or uploader, but is that not
> all? I fail to see other benefit than that, and I fail to understand
> what ot
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> On a related note however, I do not see the point of the “Team upload”
> line (and do not use it in the Haskell Team uploads). It does not log a
> change, I can ignore the lintian warnings manually, and if it were a
You can ignore it, but it would sti
On 2012-02-21, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2012, Joachim Breitner wrote:
>> On a related note however, I do not see the point of the “Team upload”
>> line (and do not use it in the Haskell Team uploads). It does not log a
>> change, I can ignore the lintian warnings manually, and if it
Charles Plessy dijo [Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 09:59:34AM +0900]:
> If there is ambiguity about credit, perhaps the BTS boilerplate could be
> amended to include a disclaimer that not all of it shall come to the uploader.
>
> Recenlty, I have uploaded new packages with changelogs like the following.
>
Jakub Wilk dijo [Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 03:08:50PM +0100]:
> Now that we have a concept of a “team upload”[0], I'd like to have
> putting team's name in the changelog trailer officially deprecated.
>
> This would:
> 1) allow to always identify person responsible for a particular upload;
> 2) help to
Le Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 08:08:33AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit :
> Charles Plessy dijo [Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 09:59:34AM +0900]:
> >
> > r-cran-proto (0.3-9.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
> >
> > * Team upload.
> >
> > [ Carlos Borroto ]
> > * Initial release (Closes: #657994)
> >
Charles Plessy dijo [Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:49:37PM +0900]:
> > > r-cran-proto (0.3-9.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
> > >
> > > * Team upload.
> > >
> > > [ Carlos Borroto ]
> > > * Initial release (Closes: #657994)
> > >
> > > -- Charles Plessy Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:47:2
Le Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 04:49:33PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit :
>
> There is a
> big difference between all of the changelog concerning you being:
>
> * Team upload.
>
> to it being
>
> * Team upload.
> * Fixed libquack linking with moox, depends: updated (Closes: #654321)
>
To summarize the discussion: while there is some doubt about how the
changelog for sponsored upload should best look like, it seems
consensual that team names should not be used in chanelog trailers.
What is the best place to document this consensus? Policy or Developer's
Reference?
--
Jakub
On 03/02/2012 05:17 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> To summarize the discussion: while there is some doubt about how the
> changelog for sponsored upload should best look like, it seems
> consensual that team names should not be used in chanelog trailers.
>
> What is the best place to document this consen
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