OoO En ce début d'après-midi nuageux du jeudi 22 juillet 2010, vers
14:26, Russ Allbery disait :
> In Launchpad, for anything in universe, the typical experience is that
> your bug goes into a black hole until a month or two later someone sends
> you some form letter about it.
By form lette
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Russell Coker wrote:
> The ability to have reportbug write it's output to a text file that
> can be copied elsewhere is a good thing. It would be nice if
> reportbug on a system with email access could then create an email
> based on that file instead of requiring copy/paste (w
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Ian Jackson wrote:
> 2nd, related, fallacy: Everyone has a useful contribution to make to
> Debian. This is not the case.
Even though not everyone may have a useful contribution, we need the
contributions of people who actually can contribute usefully.
Discouraging useless co
(CC'ing debian-derivatives)
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> The number of submissions to the Debian popularity-contest collector
> is falling, and has done so for some time now. This can be easily
> seen on http://popcon.debian.org/stat/sub-i386.png >.
>
> This is mostly caused by a fall in the nu
Russ Allbery writes:
> Having followed the Ubuntu bugs for many of my packages for several years
> now, I think Debian's bug system is considerably more user-friendly than
> Launchpad. It may not be as *pretty*, and it's not as easy to submit a
> bug, but when you submit a bug to Debian, the cha
Bastien ROUCARIES writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users,
was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"):
> The problem is joe simple user find one package that does not work,
> it seatrch on the web how to report bug, does not find, does
Bastien ROUCARIES writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users,
was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"):
> For isntance the bug sytem could be made simplier for joe
> simpler user, using an http interface than reportbug-ng [...]
I thi
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> In Launchpad, for anything in universe, the typical experience is that
>> your bug goes into a black hole until a month or two later someone sends
>> you some form letter about it.
>
> That's why I
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bastien ROUCARIES writes:
>
>> Support of debian is excellent but we are less user friendly than
>> ubuntu. For isntance the bug sytem could be made simplier for joe
>> simpler user, using an http interface than reportbug-ng (what should be
>
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 22 juillet 2010 à 11:08 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES a écrit :
>> Support of debian is excellent but we are less user friendly than
>> ubuntu. For isntance the bug sytem could be made simplier for joe
>> simpler user, using an http i
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 04:25:34PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Am 22.07.2010 09:21, schrieb Josselin Mouette:
>
>>> I think with our next release, we will have got less users. Why?
>>> We stripped out all binary only firmware images from Linux and put them
>>> mostly into the no
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 04:25:34PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Am 22.07.2010 09:21, schrieb Josselin Mouette:
>
> >> I think with our next release, we will have got less users. Why?
> >> We stripped out all binary only firmware images from Linux and put them
> >> mostly into
Hi!
Am 22.07.2010 09:21, schrieb Josselin Mouette:
>> I think with our next release, we will have got less users. Why?
>> We stripped out all binary only firmware images from Linux and put them
>> mostly into the non-free linux-firmware image.
> If you think this is a problem, you could help with
Goswin von Brederlow writes:
> Russ Allbery writes:
>> Maybe with some tagging as to the origin derivative, so that we can
>> handle cases where that data isn't useful? There's no guarantee that
>> the Ubuntu package has much of anything to do with the Debian package
>> of the same name; it mig
Russ Allbery writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow writes:
>
>> Earlier someone mentioned that popcon can report to more than one
>> tracker. So maybe we should talk to Debian based distributions and
>> encourage them to report to both their own (if they have one) and
>> popcon.d.o.
>
> Maybe with some
I would have thought that would be really confusing. It sounds like
"what is the purpose of this machine" question you get during
installation. Better would be
stable => solid,
testing => edgy,
unstable => bleeding_edge
That said I think there is noting wrong with the current terms.
Hans-J.
Hi all,
and there is another point, I would like to mention.
The naming of the repository is not well chosen, as it let new and
unexperienced people to debian feel a wrong way. The names "stable" "testing"
and "unstable" let the poeople think, debian is using crippled software, which
is unst
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Russ Allbery wrote:
> In Launchpad, for anything in universe, the typical experience is that
> your bug goes into a black hole until a month or two later someone sends
> you some form letter about it.
That's why I stopped reporting bugs against Fedora years ago, they kept bei
Goswin von Brederlow writes:
> Earlier someone mentioned that popcon can report to more than one
> tracker. So maybe we should talk to Debian based distributions and
> encourage them to report to both their own (if they have one) and
> popcon.d.o.
Maybe with some tagging as to the origin derivat
Bastien ROUCARIES writes:
> Support of debian is excellent but we are less user friendly than
> ubuntu. For isntance the bug sytem could be made simplier for joe
> simpler user, using an http interface than reportbug-ng (what should be
> installed by default for your desktop user) or even mail. I
"Jesús M. Navarro" writes:
> But once you forget your expectancies and put yourself under the skin of
> a newcomer, Sid breaks and sometimes breaks hard (no other thing should
> be expected -in fact, I feel sometimes that Sid breaks "too little"
> because due to the fact that so many people use i
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 10:44 +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
> Hi, Manoj:
>
> On Thursday 22 July 2010 07:17:15 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 21 2010, Will wrote:
> > > Also I imagine that it helps that they have some kind of commercial
> > > support behind their projects, whereas Debian h
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 22 juillet 2010 à 11:08 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES a écrit :
> > Support of debian is excellent but we are less user friendly than
> > ubuntu. For isntance the bug sytem could be made simplier for joe
> > simpler user, using an http interface t
Le jeudi 22 juillet 2010 à 11:08 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES a écrit :
> Support of debian is excellent but we are less user friendly than
> ubuntu. For isntance the bug sytem could be made simplier for joe
> simpler user, using an http interface than reportbug-ng (what should
> be installed by defaul
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Steffen Möller wrote:
> This should probably then move to Debian-Project?
>
> On 07/21/2010 11:31 AM, Andreas Tille wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 05:34:27PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I think that what we need is Debian Blends that include official
Hi, Russ:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 07:55:52 Russ Allbery wrote:
> Will writes:
> > 1, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> >> This one always boggles me and makes me wonder if we should present
> >> Debian unstable or testing as the "typical" installation. Debian
> >> testing (and often Debi
Ian Jackson writes:
> Christian PERRIER writes ("Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is
> falling"):
>> That number is decreasing. Is that *really* a surprise for anyone?
>> These days, in 2010, who is really seriously thinking that, apart from
>>
Hi, Manoj:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 07:17:15 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21 2010, Will wrote:
> > Also I imagine that it helps that they have some kind of commercial
> > support behind their projects, whereas Debian has little/none of that.
>
> One of the issues I have faced in
Am Donnerstag, den 22.07.2010, 10:20 +0200 schrieb Yves-Alexis Perez:
> On 21/07/2010 10:25, Paul Wise wrote:
> > They also currently have almost 20 times as many popcon submissions as
> > Debian and continuing growth:
> >
> > http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
> > http://popcon.ubuntu.com/stat/sub-i386.pn
On 21/07/2010 10:25, Paul Wise wrote:
> They also currently have almost 20 times as many popcon submissions as
> Debian and continuing growth:
>
> http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
> http://popcon.ubuntu.com/stat/sub-i386.png
Is it enabled by default without asking the user? (I didn't do an ubuntu
instal
Em 21-07-2010 18:38, Hans-J. Ullrich escreveu:
Hi community,
[...]
Hi all,
from my personal experience, at management level these kind of questions
are usual:
- how much will it cost? do i need a bigger workforce?
- Will everything work???
- if anything goest wrong the 'guys who sell it' c
Le mercredi 21 juillet 2010 à 23:15 +0200, Patrick Matthäi a écrit :
> I think with our next release, we will have got less users. Why?
> We stripped out all binary only firmware images from Linux and put them
> mostly into the non-free linux-firmware image.
If you think this is a problem, you cou
ctive for users, was: Re: The number
of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Group 1 can be interested, either when there are Debian (and I mean really
> Debian, not derivates like Ubuntu) preinstalled Computers available. The
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Group 1 can be interested, either when there are Debian (and I mean really
> Debian, not derivates like Ubuntu) preinstalled Computers available. These
> should be easily configurable. A graphical interface (for example in the style
> of w
On 22/07/10 at 14:22 +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > > That's an interesting idea. But where is the money going to come from?
> >
> > This idea is likely to get so much people against it that it's not worth
> > discussing.
>
> Involvement of Debian f
Will writes:
> 1, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> This one always boggles me and makes me wonder if we should present
>> Debian unstable or testing as the "typical" installation. Debian
>> testing (and often Debian unstable) is more stable than the
>> distributions with equivalent up-t
In data giovedì, 22. di luglio 2010 02:07:16, Raphael Geissert ha scritto:
> The problem with HTTP submissions is that there must be able to connect to
> the server when the cronjob is run.
Or, alternatively, use any of the thousand message queuing systems which are
shipping with Debian which sup
On Wed, Jul 21 2010, Will wrote:
> Also I imagine that it helps that they have some kind of commercial
> support behind their projects, whereas Debian has little/none of that.
One of the issues I have faced in trying to get Debian
introduced in big companies is the percieved lack of a c
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > That's an interesting idea. But where is the money going to come from?
>
> This idea is likely to get so much people against it that it's not worth
> discussing.
Involvement of Debian funds would cause problems, but there are other options.
We cou
1, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> "Fuentes, Adolfo" writes:
>
>> - If the user is experienced, they argue that the libraries are somehow
>> old compared to other distros, with cutting-edge software. Here it
>> depends on individuals, since I prefer the solid-rock stability of
>> Debian t
"Fuentes, Adolfo" writes:
> - If the user is experienced, they argue that the libraries are somehow
> old compared to other distros, with cutting-edge software. Here it
> depends on individuals, since I prefer the solid-rock stability of
> Debian to the problem of upgrading systems regularly.
Th
.@loop.de
> To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The
> number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling
> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:38:02 +0200
>
> Hi community,
>
> well, I think, the main problem is,
to you by your children." (Ancient native American Indian proverb)
From: Will [ay1...@gmail.com]
Sent: 22 July 2010 01:12
To: Jesús M. Navarro
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The
2010/7/21 Jesús M. Navarro :
> Hi, Hans:
>
> On Wednesday 21 July 2010 19:38:02 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
>> Hi community,
>>
>> well, I think, the main problem is, WHO are the persons, you want to
>> actiuvate.
>
> [...]
>
>> Group 4: People, who decide in business, which OS to use.
>
> [...]
>
>> Gr
Raphael Geissert writes:
> Something similar can be seen from
> http://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-news.png
> But it still can't be compared to:
> http://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-announce.png
Those graphs look suspiciously like we weren't purging bouncing addresses
from the mailing lists
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> This is mostly caused by a fall in the number of Lenny installations,
> as can be seen from
> http://popcon.debian.org/stat/release-1year.png >.
Something similar can be seen from
http://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-news.png
But it still can't be compared to:
http://
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Stephen Powell]
>> I haven't been following this thread closely; so if this idea has been
>> mentioned before, please excuse the duplicate. I actually tried to
>> enable popcon on my servers, but IIRC it requires an MTA
>> configured for external e-mail in order to w
Hi, Hans:
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 19:38:02 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Hi community,
>
> well, I think, the main problem is, WHO are the persons, you want to
> actiuvate.
[...]
> Group 4: People, who decide in business, which OS to use.
[...]
> Group 4: Business deciders are a big problem. They
Am 21.07.2010 23:04, schrieb Ron Johnson:
> On 07/21/2010 06:50 AM, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> Or a better idea:
>>
>> * Provide semi-official images with non-free enabled (on
>> cdimage.debian.org) of our releases. This is one big reason, why users
>> decide to use Ubuntu instead of Deb
On 07/21/2010 06:50 AM, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
[snip]
Or a better idea:
* Provide semi-official images with non-free enabled (on
cdimage.debian.org) of our releases. This is one big reason, why users
decide to use Ubuntu instead of Debian.
That's why I installed Ubuntu on my wife/kids' PC: t
Chris Jackson writes:
> I might ask, however, how are you serving *nix admins? A lot easier
> bunch to please with Linux I think. I for one have delisted (for the
> moment anyway) Debian for our server installations after Lenny, because
> I don't like the way it's headed, and I know a number of p
Wow. This is depressing.
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
Group 3: Systemadmins - Yes, there are a lot of sysadmins out there,
who are not able to see the difference between Linux and Windows
server systems. IMO these people will bring the most power into
debian, if you can motivate them.
Without wish
Hi community,
well, I think, the main problem is, WHO are the persons, you want to
actiuvate.
During my meanwhile 15 years activity in my it-job, I met mostly several main
groups of people:
Group 1: people, who are not interested, whatever OS they are using, as long
as it is working. They do
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Steffen Möller wrote:
> * Metaphorical speaking: we should give Debian a phone number.
and friendlier face, i.e. entry point to Debian world (www.debian.org)
should suggest the visitor that Debian is "for you" -- now current or
suggested site faces are just overloaded with ju
> I wrote:
>> * Metaphorical speaking: we should give Debian a phone number. And I
>> mean full-time or at least half-time employees. With so many people
>> unemployed these days, I even feel we have the duty to think about
>> creating jobs.
>>
>
On 07/21/2010 03:46 PM, Stephen Powell wrot
On 21/07/10 at 09:46 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> > * Metaphorical speaking: we should give Debian a phone number. And I
> > mean full-time or at least half-time employees. With so many people
> > unemployed these days, I even feel we have the duty to think about
> > creating jobs.
>
> That's an
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:05:27PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> We certainly shouldn't stop targetting desktop systems just because
> people prefer to install a Debian derivative. Debian itself is always
> going to have more rough edges than a dedicated end-user-oriented
> distro, because Debi
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:42:51 -0400 (EDT), Steffen Möller wrote:
>
> The computing world have become such complex, that we are all mere users
> somewhere. So yes, we should think more about our users.
I suspect that the primary reasons desktop users choose another distribution
over Debian is three
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:10:56 -0400 (EDT), Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> I haven't been following this thread closely; so if this idea has been
>> mentioned before, please excuse the duplicate. I actually tried to
>> enable popcon on my servers, but IIRC it requires an MTA
>
[Stephen Powell]
> I haven't been following this thread closely; so if this idea has been
> mentioned before, please excuse the duplicate. I actually tried to
> enable popcon on my servers, but IIRC it requires an MTA
> configured for external e-mail in order to work. The MTA (exim4) on all
> my
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:56:29 -0400 (EDT), Christian PERRIER wrote:
>
> There is nothing more we can do to have as many popcon submissions as
> possible, really. If the number is decrasing, this is because the
> number of Debian users who choose to install popcon is
> decreasing. Very probably beca
Paul Wise writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re:
The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"):
> binNMU style backports where a maintainer requests an auto-backport
> and the backports team schedules it? That would be nice.
That would
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 08:06:56PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Steffen Möller
> wrote:
> > * I know a few who love lenny with backports, so yet, we should somehow
> > integrate that with the blends concept. Could there be a flag in
> > debian/control in some way for
Christian PERRIER writes ("Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is
falling"):
> That number is decreasing. Is that *really* a surprise for anyone?
> These days, in 2010, who is really seriously thinking that, apart from
> a few hardcore geeks, someone who is consi
* Andreas Tille [100721 09:13]:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 05:18:13PM -0400, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > > I think there should be a popcon mode where it only reports the
> > > installed packages.
> >
> > and it should be the default.
>
> Why? IMHO the number of packages which are *really* used is mu
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Steffen Möller wrote:
> * I know a few who love lenny with backports, so yet, we should somehow
> integrate that with the blends concept. Could there be a flag in
> debian/control in some way for anything with a compatible debhelper
> version to be auto-backported
> This should probably then move to Debian-Project?
>
> On 07/21/2010 11:31 AM, Andreas Tille wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 05:34:27PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I think that what we need is Debian Blends that include official
>>> backports.
>>> This, no other distribution proposes
This should probably then move to Debian-Project?
On 07/21/2010 11:31 AM, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 05:34:27PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
>
>
>> I think that what we need is Debian Blends that include official backports.
>> This, no other distribution proposes yet.
>>
[Goswin von Brederlow]
> Does Ubuntus popcon report to popcon.d.o?
No. It report to popcon.ubuntu.com.
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On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 05:34:27PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> the number of popcon users unfortunately has not changed much when Lenny was
> released.
Really? From a quick view (not much time to investigate into this
currently) on the graph I have seen some "jumps" and I think I remember
that
On 07/21/2010 09:12 AM, Andreas Tille wrote:
> If you ask me, the decreasing number of popcons is because people are
> bored by a system with old versions of programs and are seeking for
> alternatives and we will see a further decrease until Squeeze will be
> released. So probably the best idea t
Le Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 09:12:59AM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit :
>
> If you ask me, the decreasing number of popcons is because people are
> bored by a system with old versions of programs and are seeking for
> alternatives and we will see a further decrease until Squeeze will be
> released.
Hi
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Does Ubuntus popcon report to popcon.d.o?
No, just to popcon.u.c:
http://patches.ubuntu.com/p/popularity-contest/popularity-contest_1.48ubuntu1.patch
http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
They also currently have almost 20 times as many popcon
Petter Reinholdtsen writes:
> [Jesús M. Navarro]
>> 1) Current reduction from April onwards is statisticallly
>> non-significant with a main trend steadly growing since Aug, 2007.
>
> Could be. Hard to predict the future. :)
>
> I suspect it is a significant reduction, but I do not know the caus
On 20.07.2010 17:26, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
The popularity-contest package also work fine with relatime.
Thanks for bringing this up. I guess we should look at the FAQ or
something to make it clear on this point. Where did you get the idea
that popcon don't work with noatime?
I don't re
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 05:18:13PM -0400, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > I think there should be a popcon mode where it only reports the
> > installed packages.
>
> and it should be the default.
Why? IMHO the number of packages which are *really* used is much more
interesting than all the packages wh
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (p...@hungry.com):
> The number of submissions to the Debian popularity-contest collector
> is falling, and has done so for some time now. This can be easily
> seen on http://popcon.debian.org/stat/sub-i386.png >.
Well, would that be a tremendous scoop that the number
Quoting Patrick Matthäi (pmatth...@debian.org):
> Maybe the default value at d-i for popcon should be set to true
> (report popcon statistics).
> atm it is false.
To people who would be tempted to followup on this and yell and "Thou
Shalt Not Do This" with arguments about ${privacy}, I suggest
th
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Anyone got any idea how to can get more machines to report to
popcon.debian.org? Or can there be some other problem causing the fall
in the number of submissions?
One thing Fedora does for their stats tools in the install is that if you
say "N
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:26:13PM +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
> Maybe the default value at d-i for popcon should be set to true
> (report popcon statistics).
> atm it is false.
Absolutely not. An installed Debian machine should be silent by
default.
> Yes I know, that many people (I am includ
Hi,
stats are based on the "HOSTID" contain in /etc/popularity-contest.conf ?
Some year ago all my virtual hosts have the same HOSTID because of the
way I was using to install them (rsync...).
Now my scripts take care of that, but maybe stats are erroneous on
server environment because of that
Am 20.07.2010 23:18, schrieb Holger Levsen:
Hi,
On Dienstag, 20. Juli 2010, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
I think there should be a popcon mode where it only reports the
installed packages.
and it should be the default.
Maybe the default value at d-i for popcon should be set to true (report
popc
Hi,
On Dienstag, 20. Juli 2010, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> I think there should be a popcon mode where it only reports the
> installed packages.
and it should be the default.
cheers,
Holger
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* Yves-Alexis Perez [100720 17:41]:
> On 20/07/2010 16:56, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> > I mount filesystem with "noatime" (at home and on my servers),
> > and AFAIK popcon don't work with such configuration, so I don't
> > install it.
>
> It can at least report the installed packages, I guess?
On 20/07/2010 14:41, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
The number of submissions to the Debian popularity-contest collector
is falling, and has done so for some time now. This can be easily
seen onhttp://popcon.debian.org/stat/sub-i386.png>.
This is mostly caused by a fall in the number of Lenny insta
[Giacomo A. Catenazzi]
> I mount filesystem with "noatime" (at home and on my servers), and
> AFAIK popcon don't work with such configuration, so I don't install
> it.
There is no need to avoid popularity-contest just because you are
mounting file systems with noatime. The set of installated pack
[Jesús M. Navarro]
> I for one don't allow for popcon on production machines under my
> control.
Sad to hear that your machines are not able to influence the parts of
Debian which uses the popcon.debian.org numbers to improve Debian
(like the CD/DVD builds :).
> I'm not going into details about
On 20/07/2010 16:56, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> I mount filesystem with "noatime" (at home and on my servers),
> and AFAIK popcon don't work with such configuration, so I don't
> install it.
It can at least report the installed packages, I guess?
Cheers,
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 02:41:49PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Anyone got any idea how to can get more machines to report to
popcon.debian.org? Or can there be some other problem causing the
fall in the number of submissions?
I mount filesystem with "noatime" (at home and on my servers
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 02:41:49PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Anyone got any idea how to can get more machines to report to
> popcon.debian.org? Or can there be some other problem causing the
> fall in the number of submissions?
Everyone I have spoken with regarding this who does not rep
Hi, Petter:
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 14:41:49 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> The number of submissions to the Debian popularity-contest collector
> is falling, and has done so for some time now. This can be easily
> seen on http://popcon.debian.org/stat/sub-i386.png >.
>
> This is mostly caused by a
The number of submissions to the Debian popularity-contest collector
is falling, and has done so for some time now. This can be easily
seen on http://popcon.debian.org/stat/sub-i386.png >.
This is mostly caused by a fall in the number of Lenny installations,
as can be seen from
http://popcon.debi
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