Re: packages.debian.org qmail (was Re: Using CVS for package development)

1997-06-02 Thread Tom Lees
On Fri, 30 May 1997, Philip Hands wrote: What were you trying to achieve ? --- it might be simpler than you think. I just discovered that most of my alias handling under qmail was drivel, and could be dome much more simply. If someone wants to spend some time on a simple mailer hack,

Re: packages.debian.org qmail (was Re: Using CVS for package development)

1997-06-01 Thread Raul Miller
On May 29, Bruce Perens wrote I must admit to not understanding what that qmail alias file is for. I do _all_ of my aliases with .qmail-* files . What I was trying to achieve was to have qmail forward a message without messing around with the headers any more than necessary. Thus, I wanted

Re: packages.debian.org qmail (was Re: Using CVS for package development)

1997-06-01 Thread Philip Hands
(1) user-map [if all package maintainers are local] If you just want to be delivering mail to package_name@packages.debian.org (rather than package_name-extension@packages.debian.org), you can deliver to remote addresses with: In users/assign, create one line per package:

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-06-01 Thread Brian White
E.g. boot-floppies. I regularly receive patches from the people doing the ports to other architectures. If they could merge them into the CVS repository, they needn't wait until I released a new version. What provision do you suggest for code-review? It's important for things like

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Philip Hands
Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. This mailing list could be used as target for the bug reports against this package.

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 29, Bruce Perens wrote There actually is a packages.debian.org domain aliased on master, I had problems making it work because darned qmail won't parse a full RFC822 address on the command line (it wants you to remove the comments). If someone wants to spend some time on a simple mailer

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I have had a very quick look at the aegis README. It has a baseline (main trunk in CVS; no mention of multiple independent branches and back merging that I could see). It implements a per change test rquirement (thought: what tests? that the package build? could be done with a

Re: packages.debian.org qmail (was Re: Using CVS for package development)

1997-05-30 Thread Bruce Perens
I must admit to not understanding what that qmail alias file is for. I do _all_ of my aliases with .qmail-* files . What I was trying to achieve was to have qmail forward a message without messing around with the headers any more than necessary. Thus, I wanted to have a .qmail-packages-default

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just tell me what you want qmail to do for you and point me at the sh/whatever scripts you started working on. I think we already have Joey (Martin Schulze) working on this today. Please check with him. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Bruce Perens
Aegis looks interesting. I'd like to see how it works on top of a physically-distributed development using CVS. Do please package it when you have time, Phil. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP

Re: packages.debian.org qmail (was Re: Using CVS for package development)

1997-05-30 Thread Philip Hands
What I was trying to achieve was to have qmail forward a message without messing around with the headers any more than necessary. Thus, I wanted to have a .qmail-packages-default file to handle the packages.debian.org domain, and that would look up the package name and map it to the maintainer

Re: packages.debian.org qmail (was Re: Using CVS for package development)

1997-05-30 Thread Carey Evans
Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] That seems simple enough. I think your best bet is this: 1) make sure control/locals does not contain packages.debian.org But make sure it's in control/rcpthosts, of course. add this line to control/virtualdomains:

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Philip Hands
I have had a very quick look at the aegis README. It has a baseline (main trunk in CVS; no mention of multiple independent branches and back merging that I could see). It relies on RCS or CVS for its version control, so you get access to most if not all the features of those (or at

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Tom Lees
On Thu, 29 May 1997, Paul Bame wrote: = Should this CVS repository be mandatory, i.e. does every Debian = package have to be there? A brief word of warning... (I tried CVS on dpkg a while back) The natural CVS model is to name the directory for the package, for example .../dpkg/ and

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-29 Thread Sven Rudolph
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only code under it is the Deity project. I can make other source trees and set up other users if others want to do distributed development this way. I need a shared CVS repository for

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-29 Thread Brian White
We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only code under it is the Deity project. I can make other source trees and set up other users if others want to do distributed development this way. I need a shared CVS repository for boot-floppies. Especially people who

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Sven Rudolph
Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: great. since i meet other debian developers at the linux congress, i my a big friend of a cvs server with all debian packages. does anyone have a server with enough hard disks and a good conection to run it ? Some problems arise: Should this CVS

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Sven Rudolph writes: Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: great. since i meet other debian developers at the linux congress, i my a big friend of a cvs server with all debian packages. does anyone have a server with enough hard disks and a good conection to run it ? Some

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Jim Pick
Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: great. since i meet other debian developers at the linux congress, i my a big friend of a cvs server with all debian packages. does anyone have a server with enough hard disks and a good conection to run it ? Some problems arise: Should

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Bruce Perens
E.g. boot-floppies. I regularly receive patches from the people doing the ports to other architectures. If they could merge them into the CVS repository, they needn't wait until I released a new version. What provision do you suggest for code-review? It's important for things like

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Paul Bame
= Should this CVS repository be mandatory, i.e. does every Debian = package have to be there? A brief word of warning... (I tried CVS on dpkg a while back) The natural CVS model is to name the directory for the package, for example .../dpkg/ and relegate the version numbers to tags. At least

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Sven Rudolph
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: E.g. boot-floppies. I regularly receive patches from the people doing the ports to other architectures. If they could merge them into the CVS repository, they needn't wait until I released a new version. What provision do you suggest for

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Bruce Perens
Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. The way we are currently doing it here (at Pixar) is that nobody checks in an un-reviewed

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Sven Rudolph
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. (And the CVS commit messages are sent to this

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Sven Rudolph writes: Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. This mailing list could be used as target for the bug reports

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Bruce Perens
There actually is a packages.debian.org domain aliased on master, I had problems making it work because darned qmail won't parse a full RFC822 address on the command line (it wants you to remove the comments). If someone wants to spend some time on a simple mailer hack, you can make this work.

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Paul Bame
= Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The = maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this = package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. = = The way we are currently doing it here (at Pixar) is that nobody checks = in an

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi. Jason == Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason On 26 May 1997, Rob Browning wrote: Rob What do you do about packages whose upstream source is already Rob being managed by CVS and already has $Id$ markers, etc in it? Jason Nothing. When you check it into CVS it will rewrite all of

cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Brian White
great. since i meet other debian developers at the linux congress, i my a big friend of a cvs server with all debian packages. does anyone have a server with enough hard disks and a good conection to run it ? We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only code under it is

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Jim Pick
We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only code under it is the Deity project. I can make other source trees and set up other users if others want to do distributed development this way. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to set up world read access yet because

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Mark Eichin
because CVS always wants write access to the directory (for lock files) Yep. I've seen patches for this at MIT, but I don't think they're in the mainline... You've also got some potentially major access control problems; look at what freebsd does, and consider that you *don't* want general

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Brian White
because CVS always wants write access to the directory (for lock files) Yep. I've seen patches for this at MIT, but I don't think they're in the mainline... You've also got some potentially major access control problems; look at what freebsd does, and consider that you *don't* want

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Michael Neuffer
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only code under it is the Deity project. I can make other source trees and set up other users if others want to do distributed development this way. Unfortunately, I haven't been

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-28 Thread Yann Dirson
Rob Browning writes: I guess I was looking for -ko, since you wouldn't want to be rewriting the $Id$ values for the upstream source unless you actually changed things, and even then it's kind of iffy since your tree has nothing to do with theirs. In addition, without -ko, you'd get a

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-27 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On May 26, Manoj Srivastava wrote Hi, I would really like to get into using CVS for my package development tree, but I have been held back by the hassle of releasing packages. I have no problems testing packages with ./debian/rules binary and I always used dpkg-buildpackage

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-27 Thread Rob Browning
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would really like to get into using CVS for my package development tree, but I have been held back by the hassle of releasing packages. I wondered about this, and I had a question. I looked around in the CVS manual a little and didn't find

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-27 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 26 May 1997, Rob Browning wrote: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would really like to get into using CVS for my package development tree, but I have been held back by the hassle of releasing packages. I wondered about this, and I had a question. I looked around

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I just import the upstream version with ``cvs import -ko'', and ``cvs add'' my changes without any k options. This way the upstream sources do not get mangled, but the debian only files come with full RCS keywords. manoj From the info pages: File: cvs.info, Node:

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-27 Thread Rob Browning
Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nothing. When you check it into CVS it will rewrite all of the $Id: $ markers and friends to reflect your CVS tree. It shouldn't have any problems. You might not want that so you can turn off substitution with -ko I think. I guess I was looking for

Using CVS for package development

1997-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I would really like to get into using CVS for my package development tree, but I have been held back by the hassle of releasing packages. I have no problems testing packages with ./debian/rules binary and I always used dpkg-buildpackage for the last step, so I have written

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-26 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The credit should really go to Lars Wirzenius and Ian Jackson, since this borrows from their work. If there is enough interest, I could package this up. (Oh, this is a sh script, and only needs dpkg-dev, no perl ;-) Please do so. CVS is a