Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Or use the aptitude frontend for package management which will show such > packages under the header "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages". Thanks for reminding this very obvious feature which helped me removing about 20 obsolete packages from my laptop

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
Karl Chen wrote: > Good points, I also discovered Synaptic works well for manually > looking for removed packages. Notifying PTS subscribers by email > also sounds very useful. Still, I worry about the people who > don't know to check for removed packages - and aren't watching > the packages that

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 04:19:42PM +0100, Luca Brivio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Alle 14:57, mar 11 marzo 2008, Andreas Bombe ha scritto: > > It's no active notification, but aptitude lists all installed packages > > that aren't in any distribution included in sources.list under "Obso

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Karl Chen
> On 2008-03-11 06:52 PDT, Lucas Nussbaum writes: Lucas> If you are only interested in a few packages, you could Lucas> subscribe to them on the PTS. I recently worked on a Lucas> script to notify PTS subscribers ('summary' keyword) Lucas> when the package is orphaned or remove

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Raphael Geissert
Joachim Breitner wrote: > > A solution that’s possible without big changes would be a package > "removal-notifier" which contains a manual list of removed packages > (which needs to be maintained by someone of course) and can tell the > user about packages he has installed but that are on that lis

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 11.03.2008, 05:23 -0700 schrieb Karl Chen: > Thoughts? What have I missed? Existing solutions or non-problem? > How can we move towards implementing something like this? What > other ideas are there for dealing with disappearing packages? A solution that’s possible without

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:23:45 -0700, Karl Chen wrote: > Thoughts? What have I missed? Existing solutions or non-problem? Not a general solution probably but maybe interesting for you is the following RSS feed: http://ftp-master.debian.org/~joerg/removals/removals.rss Cheers, gregor -- .''`.

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread The Fungi
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 03:59:13PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: [...] > I'd suggest to file wishlist bugreports against any package > management frontend (not including apt) that does not in some way > mark packages that are no longer available in the archive (or > rather, in the sources defined in the

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Luca Brivio
Alle 14:57, mar 11 marzo 2008, Andreas Bombe ha scritto: > It's no active notification, but aptitude lists all installed packages > that aren't in any distribution included in sources.list under "Obsolete > and Locally Created Packages". Verifying that this doesn't include any > packages that I ex

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 11/03/08 at 05:23 -0700, Karl Chen wrote: > To get the list of packages that are installed, but are no longer part > of the archive, I use >apt-show-versions |grep 'No available version in archive' Or use the aptitude frontend for package management which will show s

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Remi Vanicat
Karl Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I would like to bring up the issue of removed packages. I think > it is problematic that sometimes packages get removed, with no > automatic transition [a transitional package, or another package > depending on a replacement package or conflicting w

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Andreas Bombe
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 05:23:45AM -0700, Karl Chen wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to bring up the issue of removed packages. I think > it is problematic that sometimes packages get removed, with no > automatic transition [a transitional package, or another package > depending on a replacement pac

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Kai Wasserbäch
Hi, Olivier Berger schrieb: > FYI, according to > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464021 I suppose that > users having subscribed to packages in the PTS should now be notified of > such removals (which used not to be the case, and worried us a great > deal some weeks ago ;) this

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 11/03/08 at 05:23 -0700, Karl Chen wrote: > I would like to bring up the issue of removed packages. I think > it is problematic that sometimes packages get removed, with no > automatic transition [a transitional package, or another package > depending on a replacement package or conflicting wit

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Olivier Berger
Le mardi 11 mars 2008 à 05:23 -0700, Karl Chen a écrit : > Hi, > > I would like to bring up the issue of removed packages. I think > it is problematic that sometimes packages get removed, with no > automatic transition [a transitional package, or another package > depending on a replacement pack

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Karl, * Karl Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-11 13:51]: > I would like to bring up the issue of removed packages. I think > it is problematic that sometimes packages get removed, with no > automatic transition [a transitional package, or another package > depending on a replacement package or

actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Karl Chen
Hi, I would like to bring up the issue of removed packages. I think it is problematic that sometimes packages get removed, with no automatic transition [a transitional package, or another package depending on a replacement package or conflicting with the old one], and no active notification to th