Bug#141206: Ghostscript: Copyright problem, possible reorg, upcoming maintainer change

2002-04-04 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Package: gs-common Severity: serious Hi *, I am filing this bug/writing this mail because there is a big problem in the gs packages in woody which needs fixing before release. I would like to get comments on the changes I want to implement. Currently I maintain the following set of

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: [...] I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. [...] I don't think so. It is not enough for

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 11:58:16AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: How about this one? I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks okay to me. Michael - Forwarded message from Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] - If we do something like this, I'd

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 01:44:18PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: people to distribute LyX in both source and binary forms. This permission certainly includes linking against GUI toolkits like XForms, Motif, GTK, Qt or Win32. `... and distributing the resulting binary.' should

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 08:29:00PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: The problem here is that we can't distribute it under the terms of the GPL (read the kde announcement) while they say it is plain GPL, so they say they can include other people's GPL-ed stuff. glibc2 doesnt have a contradictory

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 10:52:19PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: [...] I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. [...] I don't think so. It is not enough for KDE, why should

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Shaleh
The main difference is that LyX is THEIR code. The problem w/ KDE is not so much its own code, rather it links other peoples GPL app w/QT and KDE to make Kapp. This is the brunt of the legal issue. The authors of app where not asked if it was ok to link w/QT, nor was the license modified to

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Joseph Carter wrote: On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 10:52:19PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: [...] I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. [...] I

[ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
How about this one? I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks okay to me. Michael - Forwarded message from Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] - If we do something like this, I'd rather suggest a text like: The GPL is often a source of missunderstanding

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote: I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. I don't see how it follows. we have implicitly allowed all users to

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 11:18:53PM +0200, Bart Schuller wrote: Because *implicit* permission isn't good enough. By default *nothing* is allowed. So every right the authors grant you had better be written down in a license accompanying the software, otherwise one of the authors (or sometimes

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote: On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote: I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. I don't see how it follows. we have

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: How about this one? I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks okay to me. looks good to me, with or without the first sentence. it's true, anyway. the GPL is often a source of misunderstanding and confusion.

Re: copyright problem

1998-10-12 Thread mummertpartner_meskesm
--- Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12.10.98 12:54:20 Bitte antworten an lyx@via.ecp.fr An: lyx@via.ecp.fr Kopie:Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blindkopie: MummertPartner MeskesM/D/ExternalStaff/WLB) Thema:Re: copyright problem If that is still ok for Debian, I could

Antwort: Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread mummertpartner_meskesm
looks good to me, with or without the first sentence. For me too. it's true, anyway. the GPL is often a source of misunderstanding and confusion. witness KDE, for example. Yes, your right. But I think this sentence doens´t fit well into a license file. if ettrich is willing to write

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
people to distribute LyX in both source and binary forms. This permission certainly includes linking against GUI toolkits like XForms, Motif, GTK, Qt or Win32. `... and distributing the resulting binary.' should be added. You can always link in the privacy of your home. What GPL

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: How can we be sure that LyX does not include things not written by them? Wait a moment. Don't let this become ridiculous. How can we be sure that Ulrich Depper didn't include non-GPL stuff in his glibc? You can ask this ofr every

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: How can we be sure that LyX does not include things not written by them? Wait a moment. Don't let this become ridiculous. How can we be sure that Ulrich Depper didn't include

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks okay to me. Yeah. With that first sentence in, I think he'd argue that he doesn't need anyone's permission to apply it to third-party GPLed software: he's declaring what the GPL

[larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-11 Thread Michael Meskes
Would this be enough for LyX? I think so. - Forwarded message from Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To: lyx@via.ecp.fr Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: copyright problem From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) Date: 11 Oct 1998 19:17:04 +0200 [...] I agree that by using

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-11 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: Would this be enough for LyX? I think so. [...] I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. [...] I don't think so. It is not enough

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-11 Thread Raja R Harinath
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would this be enough for LyX? I think so. - Forwarded message from Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To: lyx@via.ecp.fr Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: copyright problem From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) Date: 11 Oct

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-11 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote: I don't see how it follows. we have implicitly allowed all users to link LyX with XForms does not imply we have implicitly allowed (re)distribution of the resulting LyX binaries, which I guess is the issue at hand. Because

attempting to solve copyright problem

1997-06-19 Thread Igor Grobman
I recently (yesterday, in fact) discovered a wonderful Tcl/Tk-based irc client for X called cIRCus. It is by far the best graphical irc client I've seen. My first thought was, of course, to package it for Debian, but the copyright is quite restrictive. There is no source, and it states that

Re: attempting to solve copyright problem

1997-06-19 Thread Philippe Troin
On Thu, 19 Jun 1997 00:13:09 EDT Igor Grobman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I recently (yesterday, in fact) discovered a wonderful Tcl/Tk-based irc client for X called cIRCus. It is by far the best graphical irc client I've seen. My first thought was, of course, to package it for Debian, but