Re: Debian policy 9.2.1 needs --allow-bad-names

2024-10-06 Thread Joachim Zobel
Hi. This turned out to be a non-issue. vzlogger creates a system user. So this only affects the projects backport to buster. Thanks for the answers, they helped me understanding this. Joachim

Re: Debian policy 9.2.1 needs --allow-bad-names

2024-10-05 Thread Vincent Blut
Hi Joachim, Le 2024-10-05 17:21, Joachim Zobel a écrit : > Hi. > > Debian policy 9.2.1 says: "When maintainers choose a new hardcoded or > dynamically generated username for packages to use, they should start > this username with an underscore." By now this requires an 

Re: Debian policy 9.2.1 needs --allow-bad-names

2024-10-05 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Sat, Oct 05, 2024 at 05:21:10PM +0200, Joachim Zobel wrote: > Debian policy 9.2.1 says: "When maintainers choose a new hardcoded or > dynamically generated username for packages to use, they should start > this username with an underscore." By now this requires an  >

Re: Debian policy 9.2.1 needs --allow-bad-names

2024-10-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-10-05 Joachim Zobel wrote: > Debian policy 9.2.1 says: "When maintainers choose a new hardcoded or > dynamically generated username for packages to use, they should start > this username with an underscore." By now this requires an  > adduser --allow-bad-names &g

Debian policy 9.2.1 needs --allow-bad-names

2024-10-05 Thread Joachim Zobel
Hi. Debian policy 9.2.1 says: "When maintainers choose a new hardcoded or dynamically generated username for packages to use, they should start this username with an underscore." By now this requires an  adduser --allow-bad-names in the script creating the user. Since I followed t

Re: Packages "confirmed" and ready for DD review/possible upload - Debian Mentors - 2024-09-29

2024-09-29 Thread Phil Wyett
ll DDs, It has been suggested that I need to supply a list of the current "confirmed" packages requiring a sponsor that need a DD to review and possibly upload to Debian when ready. Below is that list. #1072910 RFS: lsp-treemacs/0.5-1 -- treemacs integration for Emacs LSP RFS: https://bugs

Packages "confirmed" and ready for DD review/possible upload - Debian Mentors - 2024-09-29

2024-09-29 Thread Phil Wyett
Dear all DDs, Below is the link to the page of currently "confirmed" as being in good order packages that are awaiting a DD review and possible upload to Debian. If DDs could spare the time to pick up a package or two and finish off the package mentor process it would be greatly a

Re: Debian openssh option review: considering splitting out GSS-API key exchange

2024-09-27 Thread Colin Watson
[Dropping CC to the upstream mailing list.] On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 04:56:21PM +0700, Arnaud Rebillout wrote: > On 30/08/2024 17:11, Colin Watson wrote: > > This is now implemented in Debian unstable. I called the packages > > openssh-client-gssapi and openssh-server-gssapi, wit

Re: Debian openssh option review: considering splitting out GSS-API key exchange

2024-09-27 Thread Arnaud Rebillout
On 30/08/2024 17:11, Colin Watson wrote: This is now implemented in Debian unstable. I called the packages openssh-client-gssapi and openssh-server-gssapi, with the intention of splitting out both GSS-API authentication and key exchange support later: that is, in trixie+1 I intend to build

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun Sep 1, 2024 at 6:14 PM BST, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > The discussion was summarized in a separate "Summay" email by me on this > list, and a comment in the MR (which merges the two discussions) and it > just happened that the next day it was also covered in > https://lwn.net/Articles/986480/

Re: LPC: Support for Complex Cameras in Debian

2024-09-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Ricardo, Am Tue, Sep 03, 2024 at 10:37:27PM +0200 schrieb Ricardo Ribalda Delgado: > ... > As a newer DD, I don't feel comfortable speaking on behalf of the > project just yet. I'm hoping someone from debian-dev or > debian-multimedia might be interested in participating,

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-04 Thread Ahmed Siam
ly > > works and is quite common, sometimes necessary. > > It would be great if we could run the salsa-ci pipeline localy easily, in > chroot via sbuild or whatever. > Do not get me wrong I like the fact that we have these pipelines in salsa, it > is a great plus for D

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-04 Thread Blair Noctis
etimes necessary. > > It would be great if we could run the salsa-ci pipeline localy easily, in > chroot via sbuild or whatever. > Do not get me wrong I like the fact that we have these pipelines in salsa, it > is a great plus for Debian. > > I Just see that the salsa-ci pipeli

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-04 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
e localy easily, in chroot via sbuild or whatever. Do not get me wrong I like the fact that we have these pipelines in salsa, it is a great plus for Debian. I Just see that the salsa-ci pipelines does not gives somethimes exacly the same result than my current sbuild + autopkgtest run locally. So I n

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-04 Thread Blair Noctis
tem it is another story. >> >> So we rely on the central salsa instance. (...) >> >> I do not know if I am clear but I have the fear that this >> >> centralisation will make us forget that de-centralisation is sort of >> >> "central" t

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-03 Thread Piper McCorkle
On Tuesday, 3 September 2024 23.42.33 CDT Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > I don't say that Debian must work for jungle developers, nor that we > must all use email and not different forms of collaboration requiring > better connectivity. My point is that Debian *allows* collaboration

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
of > > that. eg, it could be written to be only about what goes into the > > archive and not say anything about using schroot locally, or whether > > salsa is gitlab or something else. but maybe i misunderstand > > >> I do not know if I am clear but I have the fear th

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-03 Thread Blair Noctis
schroot locally, or whether > salsa is gitlab or something else. but maybe i misunderstand >> I do not know if I am clear but I have the fear that this >> centralisation will make us forget that de-centralisation is sort of >> "central" to the Debian way. > >

LPC: Support for Complex Cameras in Debian

2024-09-03 Thread Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
Hi everyone, [A continuation of my previous email, hoping that a new subject get more attention :) https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/06/msg00191.html] In two weeks, I'll be hosting a micro-conference about Complex Cameras in Linux at LPC in Vienna: https://lpc.events/eve

Re: DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

2024-09-03 Thread Peter Blackman
On 03/09/2024 15:36, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: My information was based on what Salsa admin posted at https://salsa.debian.org/salsa/support/-/issues/395 Hi Otto, Thanks for that link, which took me nearly a minute to open! Quoting from there. Could we keep the issue open for now and only clo

Re: DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

2024-09-03 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > Hi Otto, > Until recently I generally found Salsa response to be adequate, > but for the last couple of days it has been so > excruciatingly slow as to be almost unusable. > > > In response, Otto Kekäläinen noted that the Salsa admins > > had posted about upcoming hardware upgrades and other

Re: DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

2024-09-03 Thread Peter B
On 28/08/2024 03:13, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: ## Performance and Reliability Multiple participants, including Salvo Tomaselli, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues, Andrea Pappacoda, and Gioele Barabucci, complained about Salsa/GitLab being slow or unreliable at times, which deterred contribution. Imp

Debian Mentors - Confirmed package of the day - graphite-carbon - Needs love

2024-09-02 Thread Phil Wyett
Hi Debian Developers, Our package marked as "confirmed" that has languished on mentors for quite some time is our package of the day. Please could a DD with a little free time, graciously give it your time and show this package some love? Package: graphite-carbon Links... * Mento

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-01 Thread Richard Lewis
know if I am clear but I have the fear that this > centralisation will make us forget that de-centralisation is sort of > "central" to the Debian way. I suspect that if the DEP was clearer in scope and aims, these concerns would not actually arise

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-01 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
What about dog fooding ? for now we can setup a schroot and sbuild very easily and start to build a local repository in minutes. But when it comes to install gitlab and the CI system it is another story. So we rely on the central salsa instance. It seems to me that a great strength of Debian

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-01 Thread Richard Lewis
a follow-up DEP? If you want editing advice debian-l10n-engl...@lists.debian.org is a great resource I would suggest: - make the "intro" less general. Set out a clear, short, list of objectives/goals/what you want to improve. This will also help with setting a clearer scope - m

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-09-01 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi Jonathan! The discussion was summarized in a separate "Summay" email by me on this list, and a comment in the MR (which merges the two discussions) and it just happened that the next day it was also covered in https://lwn.net/Articles/986480/ I am currently writing revision 2 of the proposal.

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-31 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Thanks for working on this. I finally had a read over it today. I've found the split in discussion between this list and the Merge Request comments hard to manage. It would help a lot, I think, if some of the MR threads were marked resolved, assuming the issues they describe are resolved. Tha

Re: Debian openssh option review: considering splitting out GSS-API key exchange

2024-08-30 Thread Damien Miller
Excellent - this substantially reduces the amount of pre-authentication attack surface exposed on your users' sshd by default. On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 01:30:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > * for Debian trixie (current testing): >

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-30 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > NOTE: The following idea might be out-of-scope in DEP-18, but specific > use-case to improve > collaboration in Debian, IMHO. > > Here is just an idea: put collaboration policy metadata in debian/control. > (The following idea assumes that non-maintainer DD tend to he

Re: Debian openssh option review: considering splitting out GSS-API key exchange

2024-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 01:30:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > * for Debian trixie (current testing): > >* add dependency-only packages called something like > openssh-client-gsskex and openssh-server-gsskex, depending on their > non-gsskex alternatives >

Re: Debian 10 "buster" moved to archive.debian.org

2024-08-29 Thread Leandro Cunha
Hi, On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:07 PM Leandro Cunha wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:28 PM Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > So just to clarify, are you saying that a copy of > > https://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/b

Re: Debian installation problem on Macbook pro from 2019

2024-08-28 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On 8/23/24 00:24, lina wrote: Hi, During the Debian (stable) installation on Macbook pro from 2019, my internal keyboard is not recognizable even I exhausted all possible keyboard options listed during dpkg-reconfiguration  keyboard-configuration # more /etc/default/keyboard # KEYBOARD

Re: DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

2024-08-28 Thread Fabio Fantoni
trying to improve contribution and collaboration in Debian. ## Maintainer Workflows There were concerns that requiring specific Git and Gitlab practices could create burdens for existing maintainers, especially single-person maintainers. Sean Whitton described his own preferences as a maintainer

DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

2024-08-27 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
list discussion in https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/07/msg00429.html ## Overall Sentiment There was a broad consensus that Debian workflows are too fractured and would benefit from more standardization and unification. However, there were differing opinions on the right approach to achieve

Packages "confirmed" and ready for DD review/possible upload - Debian Mentors - 2024-08-27

2024-08-27 Thread Phil Wyett
Dear all DDs, Below is the link to the page of currently "confirmed" being in good order packages that are awaiting a DD review and possible upload. If DDs could spare the time to pick up a package or two and finish off the package mentor process it would be greatly appreciated. https://bugs.debi

Re: Debian 10 "buster" moved to archive.debian.org

2024-08-27 Thread Philipp Matthias Hahn
Hello Ansgar, Am Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 09:30:49AM +0100 schrieb Ansgar 🙀: > Debian 10 "buster" has moved to archive.debian.org in order to free > space on the main mirror network. We plan to start removing files for > non-LTS architectures in about two weeks; the existing R

Re: DEP-18: Git and GitLab usage in other Linux distros (Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git)

2024-08-27 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Hi, Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2024-08-27 08:42:53) > > Before pushing for new ways of representing Debian stuff in git, I think it > > would be a good idea to learn from all the other distros and distro-like > > systems successfully using git [1]. Debian is not the only distro

DEP-18: Git and GitLab usage in other Linux distros (Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git)

2024-08-26 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! Considering what other Linux distros are doing and what is popular among software developers today, Debian will probably gain more contributors and be more approachable if we don't reinvent too many custom things, and hence... .. > In the current DEP14/DEP18 discussions a lot of di

Re: Debian installation problem on Macbook pro from 2019

2024-08-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2024-08-23 at 09:24 +0200, lina wrote: > Hi, > > During the Debian (stable) installation on Macbook pro from 2019, Installation problems should generally be reported to the debian-boot list. > my internal keyboard is not recognizable even I exhausted all possible > k

Re: debian/gbp.cnf analytics?

2024-08-24 Thread gregor herrmann
give for (3.) is such a small > proportion: I find this workflow really useful as a way to reconcile > devref 6.8.8.1's assertion that pristine upstream tarballs are important > with the desire to have upstream git history readily available to make > maintenance easier. In the Debi

Re: [Debian-salsa-ci] DEP18 follow-up: What would be the best path to have all top-150 packages use Salsa CI?

2024-08-23 Thread Ahmed Siam
On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 2:06 AM Ahmed Siam wrote: > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 2:00 AM Ahmed Siam wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 1:45 AM Ahmed Siam wrote: > > > Perl pipeline run: > > > - https://salsa.debian.org/ahmedsiam/perl/-/pipelines/719321 > This pipeline run from Nodejs shows a similar

Re: [Debian-salsa-ci] DEP18 follow-up: What would be the best path to have all top-150 packages use Salsa CI?

2024-08-23 Thread Ahmed Siam
On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 2:00 AM Ahmed Siam wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 1:45 AM Ahmed Siam wrote: > > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 1:25 AM Jérémy Lal wrote: > > > A bunch of packages I know (nodejs, receptor to name a few) have salsa CI > > > failures, but no sbuild failures. > > > It woul

Re: [Debian-salsa-ci] DEP18 follow-up: What would be the best path to have all top-150 packages use Salsa CI?

2024-08-23 Thread Ahmed Siam
On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 1:45 AM Ahmed Siam wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 1:25 AM Jérémy Lal wrote: > > A bunch of packages I know (nodejs, receptor to name a few) have salsa CI > > failures, but no sbuild failures. > > It would be perfect if the build process was exactly the same. > > There

Re: [Debian-salsa-ci] DEP18 follow-up: What would be the best path to have all top-150 packages use Salsa CI?

2024-08-23 Thread Ahmed Siam
On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 1:25 AM Jérémy Lal wrote: > A bunch of packages I know (nodejs, receptor to name a few) have salsa CI > failures, but no sbuild failures. > It would be perfect if the build process was exactly the same. There is a work-in-progress MRs about using sbuild for building packa

Re: [Debian-salsa-ci] DEP18 follow-up: What would be the best path to have all top-150 packages use Salsa CI?

2024-08-23 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
observation that it would be > helpful if there was better documentation to make life easier for > package maintainers. Yes, it is the authoritative page. I will update the page based on discussions on debian-devel. Draft pending at https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-

Re: Debian installation problem on Macbook pro from 2019

2024-08-23 Thread Piper McCorkle
On Friday, 23 August 2024 02:24:44 CDT lina wrote: > Hi, > > During the Debian (stable) installation on Macbook pro from 2019, > > my internal keyboard is not recognizable even I exhausted all possible > keyboard options listed during Hi, I think this question would fit bett

Re: Debian installation problem on Macbook pro from 2019

2024-08-23 Thread lina
Thanks, originally I posted on debian user, the only one who replied is rather arrogant, I do not see the point to continue that thread, I probably to start a new thread next time on debian-user, thanks again, lina On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 10:05 AM Piper McCorkle wrote: > On Friday, 23 Aug

Debian installation problem on Macbook pro from 2019

2024-08-23 Thread lina
Hi, During the Debian (stable) installation on Macbook pro from 2019, my internal keyboard is not recognizable even I exhausted all possible keyboard options listed during dpkg-reconfiguration keyboard-configuration # more /etc/default/keyboard # KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE # Consult the

Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-22 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, I think that more than you realise of this already exists :) On Tue 20 Aug 2024 at 04:10pm +09, Simon Richter wrote: > From a requirements perspective, I'd like to be able to > > - express patches as commits: >- allow cherry-picking upstream commits as Debian pat

Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
scussions on the topic tend to > reinforce that feeling. Oh well. FWIW I think it's crazy and not a good use of my time to NOT have the complete upstream history in the same repository that I use for Debian packaging. :-) > (For some value of $fun, try cloning the mesa or > F

Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-22 Thread Blair Noctis
ire multiple changes to be applied in the same commit. > > The imported archive is represented either directly as a tree (which may > be imported from the upstream project if no files are undistributable > for Debian), or via a mechanism that can reproduce a compressed archive > that

Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-22 Thread Aurélien COUDERC
Hi ! Le mercredi 21 août 2024, 23:37:38 CEST Chris Hofstaedtler a écrit : > Hi Simon, > > * Simon Richter [240820 09:11]: > > One of the long-standing issues is that there are multiple ways Debian > > packaging can be represented in a git tree, and none of them are o

Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-21 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2024-08-21 19:11:40 -0400 (-0400), rsbec...@nexbridge.com wrote: [...] > On the other side (perhaps), git is increasingly being used in the > Ops setting for DevOps and DevSecOps. Production configurations > for high-value applications are moving to storing those > configurations into git for tr

Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* rsbec...@nexbridge.com [240822 01:21]: > >> Any feelings/objections/missed requirements? > > > >In the current DEP14/DEP18 discussions a lot of discussion was had about how > >we > >should represent Debian things in git; your mail also goes into this > &

RE: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-21 Thread rsbecker
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 5:38 PM, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: >* Simon Richter [240820 09:11]: >> One of the long-standing issues is that there are multiple ways Debian >> packaging can be represented in a git tree, and none of them are optimal. >[..] >> A possible i

Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Chris Hofstaedtler writes: > My *feeling* is we should do the opposite - that is, represent less > Debian stuff in git, and especially do it in less Debian-specific > ways. IOW, no git extensions, no setup with multiple branches that > contain more or less unrelated things, etc.

Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi Simon, * Simon Richter [240820 09:11]: > One of the long-standing issues is that there are multiple ways Debian > packaging can be represented in a git tree, and none of them are optimal. [..] > A possible implementation would be a type of Git "user extension" obj

Re: The end of 32-bit PostgreSQL support in Debian

2024-08-21 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Simon Richter > That is not a 32 bit bug, but an indication of something else being broken. It is the same problem in the sense that 64-bit architectures are fine, and something (probably in some autoconf script) is broken on 32-bit. The point here is that these are always weird bugs in weird

Re: The end of 32-bit PostgreSQL support in Debian

2024-08-21 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 8/21/24 18:32, Christoph Berg wrote: 10:39:04 snprintf.c:409:1: error: conflicting types for ‘strchrnul’; have ‘const char *(const char *, int)’ 10:39:04 409 | strchrnul(const char *s, int c) 10:39:04 | ^ 10:39:04 In file included from snprintf.c:43: 10:39:04 /usr/includ

Re: The end of 32-bit PostgreSQL support in Debian

2024-08-21 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: To debian-devel > it has probably been a decade since I've last seen a PostgreSQL > installation in the wild on a 32-bit machine. PostgreSQL itself works > fine there, but more and more extensions are not compatible anymore, > either deliberately, or (more common) because

Re: debian/gbp.cnf analytics? (Re: Re: Accepting DEP14?)

2024-08-20 Thread Simon McVittie
n's decision: it's upstream's decision what they will name their tags. The only decision we can make here as Debian packagers is whether to use: 1. a workflow where upstream/latest contains the same commits as upstream git (like src:mesa); 2. a workflow where upstream/latest co

Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-20 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, there's a bit of a discussion within Debian on collaborating using Git. One of the long-standing issues is that there are multiple ways Debian packaging can be represented in a git tree, and none of them are optimal. The problem at hand is that the packaging workflow consists

Re: debian/gbp.cnf analytics? (Re: Re: Accepting DEP14?)

2024-08-19 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! ## How many source packages are in Debian unstable as of today? ± zgrep "^Package: " Sources.gz | wc -l 38199 ## How many source packages have a gbp.conf? ± ls -1 *_gbp.conf | wc -l 13570 (24629 do not have it) ## What is the most popular 'debian-branch'? Note! Th

Re: debian/gbp.cnf analytics? (Re: Re: Accepting DEP14?)

2024-08-18 Thread Stuart Prescott
For those playing along at home... On 19/08/2024 14:53, Stuart Prescott wrote:     url=$(curl -s https://sources.debian.org/api/src/zzuf/0.15-4/debian/gbp.conf/ | jq -r .raw_url) The API URL should obviously be https://sources.debian.org/api/src/$pkg/latest/debian/gbp.conf/ and

Re: debian/gbp.cnf analytics? (Re: Re: Accepting DEP14?)

2024-08-18 Thread Stuart Prescott
ld get upset at 1655 files being downloaded in the following fashion. apt-file search --index-names dsc --package-only debian/gbp.conf | while read pkg; do echo -n $pkg url=$(curl -s https://sources.debian.org/api/src/zzuf/0.15-4/debian/gbp.conf/ | jq -r .raw_url)

Re: debian/gbp.cnf analytics? (Re: Re: Accepting DEP14?)

2024-08-18 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2024-08-19 03:45:37) > I tried to use codesearch.debian.net to find out how many packages have a > debian/gbp.conf but it seems it can't be used to simply list packages that > have a specific file, it always also needs a search terms to look up inside > th

debian/gbp.cnf analytics? (Re: Re: Accepting DEP14?)

2024-08-18 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! I am happily using debian/gbp.conf and debian-branch=debian/latest in all of my packages but based on the DEP14 discussion seems some people prefer debian/sid or debian/unstable (and some of them upload to experimental from the branch despite the name, and some maintain a separate debian

The end of 32-bit PostgreSQL support in Debian

2024-08-15 Thread Christoph Berg
Hi debian-devel, it has probably been a decade since I've last seen a PostgreSQL installation in the wild on a 32-bit machine. PostgreSQL itself works fine there, but more and more extensions are not compatible anymore, either deliberately, or (more common) because of subtle bugs in p

Packages "confirmed" and ready for DD review/possible upload - Debian Mentors - 2024-08-15

2024-08-15 Thread Phil Wyett
Dear all DDs, Below is the link to the page of currently "confirmed" being in good order packages that are awaiting a DD review and possible upload. If DDs could spare the time to pick up a package or two and finish off the package mentor process it would be greatly appreciated. https://bugs.debi

Re: Moving libdeflate from Debian-Med to a more appropriate team

2024-08-08 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
On 08/08/2024 07.02, nick black wrote: Michael R. Crusoe left as an exercise for the reader: Please create a new group on salsa and then we can move the repo[0] from the debian-med namespace. done: https://salsa.debian.org/deflate-team Thank you Nick, I've moved the libdeflate Salsa

Re: Moving libdeflate from Debian-Med to a more appropriate team

2024-08-07 Thread nick black
Michael R. Crusoe left as an exercise for the reader: > Please create a new group on salsa and then we can move the repo[0] from the > debian-med namespace. done: https://salsa.debian.org/deflate-team I've sent invites to you and Andrea. Feel free to ignore them. > Then you can

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-07 Thread Sean Whitton
[resending to your correct address] Hello, On Mon 05 Aug 2024 at 06:14am +05, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > It's similar but different: I'm talking about workflows to build a package > from the repo (e.g. "gbp with gbp-pq and importing upstream tarballs"). > And yeah it could be a metadata field.

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-07 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Mon 05 Aug 2024 at 06:14am +05, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > It's similar but different: I'm talking about workflows to build a package > from the repo (e.g. "gbp with gbp-pq and importing upstream tarballs"). > And yeah it could be a metadata field. Just to note that once people are u

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-07 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 11:29am -07, Soren Stoutner wrote: > 1. Debian workflows are too fractured. The project would be better if we > asked people > to standardize around a single (or a small number) of workflows. To do so, > the workflow > would need to be flexible e

Re: Moving libdeflate from Debian-Med to a more appropriate team

2024-08-07 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
On 06/08/2024 20.36, Andrea Pappacoda wrote: Il giorno mar 6 ago 2024 alle 11:32:15 -04:00:00, nick black ha scritto: I maintain it for Fedora, and would be happy to handle it in Debian; it's a dependency for one of my other packages (notcurses). Happy to enter into a team maintainersh

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-07 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 09:19am +02, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > Hello, I like the dgit idea, produce a git repository for people who want to > use git and let other use whatever they want. > > Maybe uploading a paquage to Debian could push automatically into dgit. (may

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-07 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 08:26am +02, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > My problem with DEP-18 is that people who have zero problem with using > git and are also not fundamentally against using salsa, but have > reservations surrounding *which parts* of salsa to use and the > consequences for related

Re: Moving libdeflate from Debian-Med to a more appropriate team

2024-08-06 Thread Andrea Pappacoda
Il giorno mar 6 ago 2024 alle 11:32:15 -04:00:00, nick black ha scritto: I maintain it for Fedora, and would be happy to handle it in Debian; it's a dependency for one of my other packages (notcurses). Happy to enter into a team maintainership as well. Hi Nick and Michael, I'd b

Re: Moving libdeflate from Debian-Med to a more appropriate team

2024-08-06 Thread nick black
Michael R. Crusoe left as an exercise for the reader: > libdeflate-dev has 3304 reverse-dependencies in "unstable"[0]. > I would like to move it from Debian-Med to a more appropriate team. > Are there any volunteers? I maintain it for Fedora, and would be happy to handle i

Moving libdeflate from Debian-Med to a more appropriate team

2024-08-06 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
libdeflate-dev has 3304 reverse-dependencies in "unstable"[0]. I would like to move it from Debian-Med to a more appropriate team. Are there any volunteers? Some history: libzstd-dev (3020 reverse build-depends) was also first packaged by Debian-Med but is now under the RPM pack

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-05 Thread Fabio Fantoni
, the possible contact of the maintainer, attempts (and then eventually feel that it would be better to "improve" your contributions using other methods). This information should be in debian/README.source.    Simon debian/README.source can be used for that, this according to t

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-05 Thread Simon Richter
, attempts (and then eventually feel that it would be better to "improve" your contributions using other methods). This information should be in debian/README.source. Simon

Machine readable contributor information (was: Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

2024-08-05 Thread Niels Thykier
parallel to the human policy. Shenanigans like parsing special statements from formats aimed at humans do not really cut it in my book. [1]: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/debputy/-/merge_requests/37

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-05 Thread Fabio Fantoni
here can help for you? https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/08/msg00058.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/08/msg00062.html I think something like this could be useful, even in a possible future where all packages would use git and salsa; but from the answers received so f

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-04 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
t). > > > something like wrote here can help for you? > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/08/msg00058.html > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/08/msg00062.html > > I think something like this could be useful, even in a possible future where > all p

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-04 Thread Fabio Fantoni
the default branch? Only if DEP-18 also includes an easy way to find the workflow used by the repo, which I'm not seeing there (which may be my fault). something like wrote here can help for you? https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/08/msg00058.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-04 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 04:15:33PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > one problem I have with NMUs in team-maintained package is that they > often bypass Salsa… Would it make sense to add to the DEP a request > that NMUs are started from and pushed to the default branch? Only if DEP-18 also includes

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-04 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
orrect solution is > > adopted*. Unity is more important than minority opinions on this > > particular issue. > > Keep in mind that unhappy people quit. Yes, people will resign, but (other) people resign because they got tired of Debian not having standartized workflows, and th

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-04 Thread Paul Gevers
ame time I don't *want* to be the single maintainer. Actually, I don't want to maintain packages at all, my joy is elsewhere in Debian. I'm on LowThresholdNMU and LowThresholdAdoption lists. I guess I should have created a wnpp RFH" bug for all my packages? Not that thos

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > I have three feelings. > > > 1. Debian workflows are too fractured. The project would be better if we > asked people to standardize around a single (or a small number) of workflows. > To do so, the workflow would need to be flexible enough to handle the wide > ran

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Soren Stoutner
ed on my work helping new contributors start working on Debian, I think the number of people the project would gain would far exceed those who would leave. > What exact issue are we trying to fix? The core of the issue is that it is far too hard for a new contributor to figure out how to co

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Soren Stoutner
; purpose of simplifying the conversation. I don't think that > simplification is helpfull, however. I am one of the silent crowd who has followed this discussion. I have three feelings. 1. Debian workflows are too fractured. The project would be better if we asked people to standardize around

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
18 basically, I think that it might be better > >>> to add an option > >>> to formalize package owner's (single person maintainer) collaboration > >>> policy > >>> especially about non-team maintained packages under > >>> https://s

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
ainer) collaboration policy especially about non-team maintained packages under https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I will send merge request and send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. But it is not true that such MR is m

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
r) collaboration policy > > especially about non-team maintained packages under > > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. > > > > If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I > > will send merge request and > > send E-mail to bugs.d.o about ur

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
-team maintained packages under https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I will send merge request and send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. But it is not true that such MR is merged in timely manner. (Surely collaboration

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
n.org/debian/. If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I will send merge request and send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. But it is not true that such MR is merged in timely manner. (Surely collaboration takes longer time, I know.) If the package

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
packages under > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. > > If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I > will send merge request and > send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. > But it is not true that such MR is merged in timely manner. > (Surely colla

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Tobias Frost
intained packages under > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. > (...) > If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I > will send merge request and > send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. > But it is not true that such MR is merged in tim

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