Bug#1073934: ITP: golang-github-makenowjust-heredoc -- Convert strings to here documents in Go (v2) (library)

2024-06-20 Thread Nicolas Schier
: Convert strings to here documents in Go (v2) (library) Here documents allow text files or other data to be embedded in source files. The heredoc library implements the whitespace filtering and line break preservation since Go does not have any syntax allowing here documents

Bug#951240: ITP: ppx-here -- ppx rewriter that defines an extension node whose value is its source position

2020-02-12 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stéphane Glondu * Package name: ppx-here Version : 0.13.0 Upstream Author : Jane Street Group, LLC * URL : https://github.com/janestreet/ppx_here * License : MIT Programming Lang: OCaml Description : extension

Re: When pkg-foo is not at all involved here

2018-05-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt
control@ output is the only one of the mails that they will have received. (Ideally debbugs would do so itself, but it doesn't, and making our colleagues' lives easier here is trivial.) Regards, Adam

When pkg-foo is not at all involved here

2018-05-13 Thread Geert Stappers
gt; Most certainly not, as network-manager-gnome is not at all involved here. > Yeah, that is where the pain is, the spot that needs improvement. I think we have all been there: Encounters with a software bug, feeling the need to report it, but not knowning _how and where_ to report. We s

Bug#879834: ITP: haskell-here -- Here documents and interpolated strings via quasiquotation

2017-10-26 Thread Ilias Tsitsimpis
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ilias Tsitsimpis * Package name: haskell-here Version : 1.2.11 Upstream Author : Taylor M. Hedberg * URL : https://hackage.haskell.org/package/here * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Haskell Description

Bug#855683: ITP: golang-github-makenowjust-heredoc -- Convert strings to here documents in Go

2017-02-20 Thread Potter, Tim
: https://github.com/MakeNowJust/heredoc * License : Expat Programming Lang: Go Description : Convert strings to here documents in Go Here documents allow text files or other data to be embedded in source files. The heredoc library implements the whitespace filtering and line

Bug#842162: ITP: anything-sync-daemon -- Anything-sync-daemon (asd) is a tiny pseudo-daemon designed to manage user specified directories referred to as sync targets from here on out, in tmpfs and to

2016-10-26 Thread Jan Luca Naumann
user specified directories into RAM Anything-sync-daemon (asd) is a tiny pseudo-daemon designed to manage user specified directories referred to as sync targets from here on out, in tmpfs and to periodically sync them back to the physical disc (HDD/SSD). This is accomplished via a symlinking step

Re: Is the reason for closing the bug 837459 appropriate here?

2016-09-21 Thread john . kirk
Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh : On Wed, 21 Sep 2016, john.k...@vfemail.net wrote: Is the reason for closing the bug 837459 appropriate here? The bug is still here and no backported version. I believe it was appropriately closed, yes. #837459 is not a request for a backport.  Instead

Re: Is the reason for closing the bug 837459 appropriate here?

2016-09-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > for that backport, and refering to bug #836459... Typo. Make that bug #837459... -- Henrique Holschuh

Re: Is the reason for closing the bug 837459 appropriate here?

2016-09-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016, john.k...@vfemail.net wrote: > Is the reason for closing the bug 837459 appropriate here? The bug is still > here and no backported version. I believe it was appropriately closed, yes. #837459 is not a request for a backport. Instead, it is a bug about something th

Re: Is the reason for closing the bug 837459 appropriate here?

2016-09-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016, john.k...@vfemail.net wrote: > Is the reason for closing the bug 837459 appropriate here? The bug is still > here and no backported version. > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837459 This bug is fixed in unstable and testing, but is current

Is the reason for closing the bug 837459 appropriate here?

2016-09-21 Thread john . kirk
Hello, Is the reason for closing the bug 837459 appropriate here? The bug is still here and no backported version. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837459 Best wishes, John - ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to

Re: Administrators and moderators of ubuntu-devel list, please erase all the messages that I not should have posted here in debian-devel list!

2015-12-10 Thread Vasudev Kamath
et/private/9fans/2015-December/034480.html > Err sorry I posted link to private list archives. Here is the link for public list archive. ¹ Sorry for the noise :-) ¹ http://marc.info/?l=9fans&m=144975913529020&w=2

Re: Administrators and moderators of ubuntu-devel list, please erase all the messages that I not should have posted here in debian-devel list!

2015-12-10 Thread Vasudev Kamath
Vasudev Kamath writes: > > I think the original message was a troll message :-). I saw the same message > with similar > subject on a different list to ¹. So I think you can simply ignore it. > > ¹ http://mail.9fans.net/private/9fans/2015-December/034480.html Err sorry I posted link to private l

Re: Administrators and moderators of ubuntu-devel list, please erase all the messages that I not should have posted here in debian-devel list!

2015-12-10 Thread Vasudev Kamath
02:00 françai s : >> >> > Administrators and moderators of ubuntu-devel list, please erase all the >> > messages that I not should have posted here in debian-devel list. >> > >> > I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and I >

Re: Administrators and moderators of ubuntu-devel list, please erase all the messages that I not should have posted here in debian-devel list!

2015-12-10 Thread Alexander Wirt
and moderators of ubuntu-devel list, please erase all the > > messages that I not should have posted here in debian-devel list. > > > > I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and I > > do not want to talk about the topics that I should not have pos

Re: Administrators and moderators of ubuntu-devel list, please erase all the messages that I not should have posted here in debian-devel list!

2015-12-10 Thread françai s
ges that I not should have posted here in debian-devel list. > > I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and I > do not want to talk about the topics that I should not have posted here in > debian-devel list. > > I decided prevent substantial harm to im

Administrators and moderators of ubuntu-devel list, please erase all the messages that I not should have posted here in debian-devel list!

2015-12-10 Thread françai s
Administrators and moderators of ubuntu-devel list, please erase all the messages that I not should have posted here in debian-devel list. I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and I do not want to talk about the topics that I should not have posted here in debian

S-D is like a cold vastness. (Song included here)

2014-12-03 Thread heringklaussma...@t-online.de
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRvf9LauZIM&list=UUpfKI2v7BTPBrx6HWvEx1Lw [ Instruments: Analogue Synth: MicroBRUTE & Software Synth Organ: ZynAddSubFX ] Synth and organ in the cold infinite vastness. As if abandoned. Seeing bright lights, but feeling no warmth. Kind of like what old-guard Free/Op

Re: GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-09 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Marco d'Itri (m...@linux.it): > On Jul 09, Alessio Treglia wrote: > > > I think that it would be valuable for our users to keep the > > non-default init system working on Jessie for those who do neither > > intend nor need to switch to systemd. > I suggest less thinking and more coding th

Re: GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 09, Alessio Treglia wrote: > I think that it would be valuable for our users to keep the > non-default init system working on Jessie for those who do neither > intend nor need to switch to systemd. I suggest less thinking and more coding then, because an updated systemd-shim still has not

Re: GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-09 Thread Alessio Treglia
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >- existing installations of older (pre-jessie) Debian may be > upgraded to our new standard init system systemd, but only > after the user has been suitably warned, e.g. via a debconf > propmpt at priority "medium" (i.e. no

Re: GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
t...@debian.org wrote: >Steve McIntyre wrote: > >>with this constant bickering and sniping. If you must do it, start the >>GR and see how that goes. I even offer to second it just to help get > >Can you help formulate? I do not feel my English skills are >up to that. I'm sorry, I don't really have

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 08 juillet 2014 à 08:13 +0900, Norbert Preining a écrit : > On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > If they don’t need any of the systemd features, I guess they don’t need > > any of its reverse dependencies either. > > Rubbish. I want network-manager, but I don't want systemd.

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Norbert Preining wrote: >On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> If they don’t need any of the systemd features, I guess they don’t need >> any of its reverse dependencies either. > >Rubbish. I want network-manager, but I don't want systemd. I don’t, but I want most KDE packages, so

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-07 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, Josselin Mouette wrote: > If they don’t need any of the systemd features, I guess they don’t need > any of its reverse dependencies either. Rubbish. I want network-manager, but I don't want systemd. NM was working long time without systemd. Don't spread wrong information. No

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 04 juillet 2014 à 15:09 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit : > But if they don’t want the systemd features why should they write > software to replace systemd? If they don’t need any of the systemd features, I guess they don’t need any of its reverse dependencies either. So why do they co

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-05 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
me: >> (I did find his comment funny -- actually, I find the CoC ifself pretty >> funny --, but I realise that this is an international mailing list and >> that Austrian-Japanese humour is not necessarily obvious to everyone.) Tollef Fog Heen: > Humour [...] does not work very well on large list

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-05 Thread Gunnar Wolf
The Wanderer dijo [Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 11:18:12PM -0400]: > > It must work without systemd well enough to be able to cleanly reboot > > the system from the GUI, after upgrading. > > > > Anything beyond that is nice-to-have, but definitely NOT required. > > I, for one, would be highly displeased

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-05 Thread Christian Hofstaedtler
* Juliusz Chroboczek [140704 23:00]: > (I did find his comment funny -- > actually, I find the CoC ifself pretty funny --, but I realise that this > is an international mailing list and that Austrian-Japanese humour is not > necessarily obvious to everyone.) I'd suggest you stop with the country-

Re: GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/04/2014 10:28 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > 4) all init systems currently in Debian are supported in jessie; We don't need a GR to support this option. Of course, all init systems are supported, to the best of our efforts, and I don't see why someone would refuse a patch. I haven't seen such

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stephan Seitz [2014-07-04 15:09 +0200]: > But if they don’t want the systemd features why should they write > software to replace systemd? Because there are better ways to implement it, including more granular approaches and less of a desktop focus. And you could be a better upstream

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Juliusz Chroboczek writes: > I'll remind you that this thread started with systemd breaking my > system, and a systemd maintainer summarily closing my bug report. Not > once, but twice. Because the bug was already fixed in a newer version of systemd. While we're reminding people of things. >

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Steve Langasek: > While I have no interest in joining Norbert in calling for your ban, I would > like to ask you to consider taking a step back from this thread, and > evaluating whether such messages are actually contributing to bringing these > discussions to a conclusion. > Thanks for the

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > I [...] will try to avoid breaking stuff I expect no less from a Debian Developer. > but it's also a use case we don't hit, so breakage there is less likely > to be seen by us. We'll do our best to fix it when reported, of course. That is good to hear. It would be eve

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Norbert Preining
> I have yet to find mr Preining funny in any of his mails sent to any of > the lists I read. Humour, except when accompanied with explicit tags of > HERE BE HUMOUR does not work very well on large lists. Well, because I don't write "WARNING HUMOUR COMING" and then

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie

2014-07-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Matthias Urlichs wrote: >For Zurg (Jessie+1), we're likely to switch to Wayland. How do you plan to We're *what*? (Says someone who uses X11 forwarding, VNC in, VNC out, and all that on an almost-, if not daily, basis.) OT: prevent-systemd-*_9_all.deb are in my repo. Wookey, feel free to u

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
t to any of the lists I read. Humour, except when accompanied with explicit tags of HERE BE HUMOUR does not work very well on large lists. > I have good hope that the systemd maintainers will take this minority > of users into account in their further development. I (and I believe I spea

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> While I have no interest in joining Norbert in calling for your ban, Having had the pleasure to meet Norbert in person, I have no doubt that he was joking when appealing to the CoC. (I did find his comment funny -- actually, I find the CoC ifself pretty funny --, but I realise that this is an i

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Steve Langasek
Matthias, On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 04:02:38PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Norbert Preining: > > > Then shut up and help with the work required to get there, > > Please stop this inpoliteness, or I request a ban on all mailing lists > > due to permanent breaking of Code of Conduct. > *what* Se

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Jakub Wilk
* The Wanderer , 2014-07-04, 12:00: Zurg (Jessie+1), Has that name actually been formalized in any way? No. But no worries, if RT chooses a different name, we'll have a GR to override them. :-P -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 04, The Wanderer wrote: > This part is precisely what I'm objecting to. I don't consider being > expected to reboot *in order to maintain existing functionality* after > an upgrade to be reasonable. Tough luck for you then, I fear that this is a perception issue. > At the very least, in t

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread The Wanderer
>> forced reboots on a repeated basis, I don't like where this is going. >> > systemd and its components can re-exec themselves, that's not the problem. > > The problem is that along with systemd we're changing a lot of the > supporting infrastructure (&qu

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
d basis, I don't like where this is going. > > systemd and its components can re-exec themselves, that's not the problem. > > The problem is that along with systemd we're changing a lot of the > supporting infrastructure ("we" here is Upstream, for the

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
e-exec themselves, that's not the problem. The problem is that along with systemd we're changing a lot of the supporting infrastructure ("we" here is Upstream, for the most part). Keeping old low-level interfaces around just to avoid logging out or rebooting may or may not be s

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/04/2014 10:42 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 09:52:07AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > >> So, let me get this straight: >> >> You're saying that if, having decided to postpone rebooting after >> an upgrade where any reasona

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014, at 16:42, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 09:52:07AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > So, let me get this straight: > > > > You're saying that if, having decided to postpone rebooting after an > > upgrade where any reasonable person would expect to reboot > > Thi

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 09:52:07AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > So, let me get this straight: > > You're saying that if, having decided to postpone rebooting after an > upgrade where any reasonable person would expect to reboot This is Debian, not Windows or Red Hat, forced reboots are not accept

GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Steve McIntyre wrote: >with this constant bickering and sniping. If you must do it, start the >GR and see how that goes. I even offer to second it just to help get Can you help formulate? I do not feel my English skills are up to that. Also, what options do we need? 1) systemd is the only init

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Norbert Preining: > > Then shut up and help with the work required to get there, > Please stop this inpoliteness, or I request a ban on all mailing lists > due to permanent breaking of Code of Conduct. *what* Seriously?!? One of us seems to harbor a severe misconception or two about what kin

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
it. In SYSV init, I can just use "set -x". That just rocks. (But anyway, I do not wish to discuss this here - there are more suitable places/threads.) >> systemd is a backdoor in that, by means of vendor lock-in > >Which vendor are you talking about, exactly? "vendor lock-

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
Thorsten Glaser wrote: > >You know, backdoors are not only code vulnerabilities. > >systemd is a backdoor in that, like the availability of Steam >games for DDs, it has a chance to hinder the progress of all >projects done in the spare time of the people affected. Thorsten, you're too late. The ar

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fri, 04 Jul 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Then shut up and help with the work required to get there, Please stop this inpoliteness, or I request a ban on all mailing lists due to permanent breaking of Code of Conduct. (Long live the CoC - I am *so* happy to have it!! - hope someone got

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 08:40:59PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: The problem is that some people bitch endlessly abut how evil systemd is _instead_of_ producing software (not just patches) to replace what systemd offers. But if they don’t want the systemd features why should they write softwa

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Dominik George
Hi Thorsten, while I tend to basically acknowledge your points here, there is still one thing you obviously did not get until now, if I followed along correctly. >For example, systemd has support for its own (S)NTP client, but also >supports xntpd (rudely leaving OpenNTPD out already

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Dominik George dixit: >systemd, in its nature as an init system, starts what you tell it to >start. There is nothing that can prevent it from starting openntpd if >you want that. If you through a service file at it, or even an LSB >init script, then systemd has no choice but to start it. No, this

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> The problem is that some people bitch endlessly abut how evil systemd is >> _instead_of_ producing software (not just patches) to replace what >> systemd offers. > >Abstracting away from your somewhat offensive choice of language, that's >a good point. As far as I'm aw

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Thorsten Glaser: > systemd is a backdoor in that, like the availability of Steam > games for DDs, it has a chance to hinder the progress of all > projects done in the spare time of the people affected. > Yeah. It "has a chance". It also "has a chance" to give people a big chunk of spare time

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/04/2014 04:52 AM, Philip Hands wrote: > The Wanderer writes: > >> ... particularly because I use rather fewer things than many other >> people, and don't use most fancy GUI elements. (For example, I >> don't have a graphical "power button" a

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> The problem is that some people bitch endlessly abut how evil systemd is > _instead_of_ producing software (not just patches) to replace what > systemd offers. Abstracting away from your somewhat offensive choice of language, that's a good point. As far as I'm aware, the only major distribution

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
OdyX wrote: >all means, go for it. That said, as far as I remember, the latest GR >proposal [4] on this subject failed to gather the mandatory K seconds >though. For me, this indicates that not even K=5 DDs were interested in I was not even aware of that proposal. This may also indicate lack of,

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 04:59:25PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser has been seen typing: > No, there just has not been any challenge that met the form and > other requirements… and I am at a bit of loss at what to do here. > Besides, it’s not that the TC made a decision. Rathe

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
k that > No, there just has not been any challenge that met the form and > other requirements… and I am at a bit of loss at what to do here. > > Besides, it’s not that the TC made a decision. Rather, the TC was > split, and the chairman threw in his weight. Sorry, but this is

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014, at 16:59, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Besides, it’s not that the TC made a decision. Rather, the TC was > split, and the chairman threw in his weight. This is absolutely not > what I’d call a project(!) decision. No! The TC has made the decision with full adherence to Debian Con

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Philip Hands
The Wanderer writes: > ... particularly because I use rather fewer things than > many other people, and don't use most fancy GUI elements. (For example, > I don't have a graphical "power button" at all; I shut down by exiting > my window manager, logging out of the console where I had originally

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-03 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/03/2014 11:53 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > The Wanderer writes: > >> I, for one, would be highly displeased if a routine dist-upgrade to >> testing required me to reboot to avoid having things break. > >> I generally dist-upgrade my primary co

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-03 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, The Wanderer: > I, for one, would be highly displeased if a routine dist-upgrade to > testing required me to reboot to avoid having things break. > We're talking about an upgrade from one release to the other here, with many intrusive changes (not just systemd). If you do th

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-03 Thread Russ Allbery
The Wanderer writes: > I, for one, would be highly displeased if a routine dist-upgrade to > testing required me to reboot to avoid having things break. > I generally dist-upgrade my primary computer to testing about once a > week, give or take, but I don't reboot it more often than once a month

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-03 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/03/2014 01:40 PM, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Thorsten Glaser: >>> Can we get over this now and start making Jessie the most awesome >>> stable release we've ever prepared together? >> >> To do that, it MUST work without systemd, if a

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-03 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 03/07/14 22:50, David Weinehall wrote: > Why would the NSA take even the slightest risk of discovery > when they could put a backdoor in a driver for a piece of hardware that > has full access to your system? Or on the firmware of your HDD/SDD: http://s3.eurecom.fr/~zaddach/docs/Recon14_HDD.pd

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now (was: Re: Pinning vs. conflicting)

2014-07-03 Thread Axel Wagner
Hi, Matthias Urlichs writes: >> Please respect our decision to stay away from systemd and still be >> Debian users. If possible, please, don't resist changes that make our >> lives easier. >> > *Sigh*. > > The problem is not that anybody resists such changes. I disagree. People *do* in fact res

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-03 Thread David Weinehall
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 11:25:36AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: [snip] > If the NSA are going to hide back-doors in open source projects (a rather > dubious idea to start with, given how difficult it is and how much social > blowback there would be when such a thing was inevitably discovered), they >

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now (was: Re: Pinning vs. conflicting)

2014-07-03 Thread Matthias Urlichs
systemd offers. > For thou art so possessed with murderous hate, Three words do come to mind … which I'll not write down here, in order not to escalate this discussion. You may mail me your guesses privately. ;-) -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-r

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Alexander Pushkin writes: > For some of us there will never be an awesome Debian release that at > it's core contains systemd. It's core developers, Lennart Poettering and > Kay Sievers, work for a company that has multi-billion dollar contracts > with NSA. It is your choice to assume good faith

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now (was: Re: Pinning vs. conflicting)

2014-07-03 Thread Alexander Pushkin
Didier, Hello. > The proper solution is to stop trying to hide ourselves from to the fact > that some sort of systemd interfaces have been made unavoidable in > modern desktop environments (fact which is rightfully reflected in our > dependencies tree). > Can we get over this now and start ma

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-03 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Thorsten Glaser: > A lot of Debian systems even run without dbus! > Yeah. So? systemd doesn't force you to run a dbus daemon. > No, there just has not been any challenge that met the form and > other requirements… and I am at a bit of loss at what to do here. > You get

sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
technical committee has made a > decision which stayed unchallenged (so far), I've now come to think that No, there just has not been any challenge that met the form and other requirements… and I am at a bit of loss at what to do here. Besides, it’s not that the TC made a decision. Rather

systemd is here to stay, get over it now (was: Re: Pinning vs. conflicting)

2014-07-03 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
modern desktop environments (fact which is rightfully reflected in our dependencies tree). Many of the interfaces of systemd are here to stay and will make their way through our stack (like it or not); fact is they already made it quite far in at least Gnome and KDE. As developers of Debian (which t

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Re: Hello, I have a problem with CPP here

2013-12-10 Thread Russ Allbery
taozhijiang writes: > I want to using #define / #undef, and want to put them in a single > macro, some thing like: > #define DECALRE_TYPE(type) \ > { #undef __curr_type; #define _curr_type type; } > as we know, this can not passed with CPP, but I need this logical here. I'

Hello, I have a problem with CPP here

2013-12-10 Thread taozhijiang
, this can not passed with CPP, but I need this logical here. Generally, the problem comes from #define ser_field(type, var) \ ser_new_field(tra, #type, #var, offsetof(struct_type, var)) I do not want another additional parameter in this macro like #define ser_field(type,var,struct_type), and I

Bug#620333: ITP: naspro-bridge-it -- library to develop insert-your-API-here to LV2 bridges

2011-04-01 Thread Alessio Treglia
brary to develop API-to-LV2 bridges NASPRO Bridge it is a little helper library to develop insert-your-API-here to LV2 bridges. . As of now, it basically offers a few utility functions and Turtle/RDF serialization for LV2 dynamic manifest generation, supporting the following LV2 specifica

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Bug#524286: Same here

2009-04-18 Thread Khapin
I'm having exactly the same problem here with udev 0.125-7 on a Testing... If there is any info/test I could do to help fixing that bug, just ask. btw, this bug should have its severity set to "grave" or even "critical", as it prevents the system from working properly:

Bug#485423: ITP: libextutils-install-perl -- install files from here to there

2008-06-09 Thread Niko Tyni
Programming Lang: Perl Description : install files from here to there ExtUtils::Install handles the installing and uninstalling of perl modules, scripts, man pages, etc. . The module is also bundled with the Perl core in the perl-modules package, but a separately packaged newer version is required

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2008-04-02 Thread Roan ortega
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2008-02-09 Thread Rafael Belmonte
Before plugging in devices: $ find /proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb/004 /proc/bus/usb/004/001 /proc/bus/usb/003 /proc/bus/usb/003/002 /proc/bus/usb/003/001 /proc/bus/usb/002 /proc/bus/usb/002/001 /proc/bus/usb/001 /proc/bus/usb/001/005 /proc/bus/usb/001/004 /proc/bus/usb/001/001 /proc/bus

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Re: Greylisting: discussion should stop here, for now (Re: greylisting on debian.org?)

2006-07-18 Thread Pierre Habouzit
e MAIL FROM + SENDER IP, which a good trade off for alioth, but may not be true for DD accounts. that's the sole "deviation" of what has been discussed here, and is not very relevant to the discussion anyway. Technically, I don't know what you want me to say more than what is

Re: Greylisting: discussion should stop here, for now (Re: greylisting on debian.org?)

2006-07-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the record (it was already said in the thread IIRC), the setup we > are discussing is in production on alioth since sth like 4 or 5 monthes > now (maybe a bit less) on my idea, and thanks to Raphael Hertzog for > actually using his alioth admin

Re: Greylisting: discussion should stop here, for now (Re: greylisting on debian.org?)

2006-07-18 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le mar 18 juillet 2006 13:20, Adrian von Bidder a écrit : > Apart from the fact that the opinions seem to be set (and haven't > really changed since the last time the discussion came up IIRC, so we > really can stop arguing - nothing new for quite some time...): am I > correct in my observation tha

Greylisting: discussion should stop here, for now (Re: greylisting on debian.org?)

2006-07-18 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Apart from the fact that the opinions seem to be set (and haven't really changed since the last time the discussion came up IIRC, so we really can stop arguing - nothing new for quite some time...): am I correct in my observation that nobody who has participated in this discussion up to now is

Re: some Debian Apache Maintainer here ?

2006-06-20 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 6/20/06, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 11:37:22AM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > How are others supposed to be aware of that if you don't tell them? Uhm, did you read the thread you're replying to? Or are you just rehashing the complaints over and over a

Re: some Debian Apache Maintainer here ?

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 11:37:22AM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > How are others supposed to be aware of that if you don't tell them? Uhm, did you read the thread you're replying to? Or are you just rehashing the complaints over and over again to get more attention? Michael -- Michael Banc

Re: some Debian Apache Maintainer here ?

2006-06-20 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 6/20/06, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Marc Haber | On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:51:04 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | wrote: | >Useful patches and comments are always welcome. | | The apache maintainers' "reaction" to #349716, #349709, #349708 and | #366124 (the latter

Re: some Debian Apache Maintainer here ?

2006-06-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Marc Haber | On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:51:04 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | wrote: | >Useful patches and comments are always welcome. | | The apache maintainers' "reaction" to #349716, #349709, #349708 and | #366124 (the latter one a possible security issue), is very | discouraging

Re: some Debian Apache Maintainer here ?

2006-06-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:51:04 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Useful patches and comments are always welcome. The apache maintainers' "reaction" to #349716, #349709, #349708 and #366124 (the latter one a possible security issue), is very discouraging to comment and to submit patc

Re: some Debian Apache Maintainer here ?

2006-06-19 Thread Marc Chantreux
Hi Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Adrian von Bidder skrev: On Thursday 15 June 2006 16:06, Marc Chantreux wrote: Is there a way to help/join/"have news from" the apache team ? Have you tried contacting the apache maintainers directly? (I'd cc such mails to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, just for the

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