but easy to fix bug.
foo is not as configurable as it should be is a wishlist bug, not a
release-critical bug.
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 06:38:23AM -0300, Rodrigo Tadeu Claro wrote:
Putz piada essa msg aqui n?
This lists isn't for marketing!
1) Please don't reply to spam.
2) If you must reply to spam, please don't quote the whole thing!
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anything package
maintainers can do about this.
Björn, I would suggest you concentrate on other problems for now, such
as packages that have been held out for a long time. There are plenty of
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is buggy, fix it :-)
Assuming you're [EMAIL PROTECTED], you have four open
release-critical bugs, none of which have had any response, and three of
which have been open since October.
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in the
future we may just make imake install into /usr rather than /usr/X11R6
and everything will move automatically.
At least, that's my recollection of the discussion surrounding that
exception. I'm sure you could find it in the debian-policy archives.
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was poking fun at solution to this kind of solution.
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.
Guess what people are trying to do. It's hunting season guys. It's
bug-squashing *year*, OK?
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backwards
compatible.
That was my point. Since these libs are strongly backwards compatible,
forcing other packages to always depend on the latest version of them
No, that's not what shlibdeps do.
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 12:46:07PM +0200, Bj?rn Stenberg wrote:
Colin Watson wrote:
forcing other packages to always depend on the latest version of them
No, that's not what shlibdeps do.
Right, it does not force the latest, only the version that is installed on
the machine it runs
On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 02:56:21PM +0200, Bj?rn Stenberg wrote:
Colin Watson wrote:
No, that's not what shlibdeps do either. See:
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-shlibdeps
Lovely, so it's simply the other way around (as Adam Conrad said
but the version
in the package remains unchanged.
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well and left up to the admin. IMHO, this is a win.
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talking about
with regard to debconf ... you could go find the text of his talk at the
last Debian Conference if you like.
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still makes no sense. If earlier
versions of debiandoc-sgml produce incorrect output, as reported, then
the versioned build-dep should be left there, as it will help people
trying to build with older versions to know what the problem is.
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of, it was mostly extemporaneous
anyway. (Here, I've linked the slides online at
http://kitenet.net/~joey/debconf-debconf)
I thought there was a video recording of it - that'd be Scott Dier's
department, wouldn't it?
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On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 08:17:16PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
Colin Watson wrote:
Or maybe realize that Joey might perhaps know what he's talking about
with regard to debconf ... you could go find the text of his talk at the
last Debian Conference if you like.
I realise he has an opinion
On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 11:20:54AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 03:50:23PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
I've read the changelog and the bug report closed by that earlier
change, and removing the version still makes no sense. If earlier
versions of debiandoc-sgml
On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 09:09:41PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
Colin Watson wrote:
BTW the opinion of this jumped-up developer is please don't send me
private copies of posts to mailing lists. Thanks.
Apologies, 'reply-all' is not clever enough in Outlook Express to
evaluate the sender
on things they seem to
expect him to respond to; is everybody assuming that he's subscribed to
debian-devel?
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 11:45:08PM +0200, Bj?rn Stenberg wrote:
Colin Watson wrote:
The reason why a library's shlibs get changed is that binaries built
against one version of the library can't be guaranteed to run
correctly against older versions.
Because the interface changed
. It is not affecting irssi-text's promotion to
testing. irssi-text is in fact held up by the perl 5.8 transition.
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package.
Realistically, are there any C++ apps on the planet that wouldn't choke
an i386 to death anyway?
groff wouldn't be *that* bad, I don't think ...
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 11:55:08AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 04:36:00PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:26:41AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
Realistically, are there any C++ apps on the planet that wouldn't choke
an i386 to death anyway
.
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/i486, certainly ...
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the relevant version of libgcc1, those packages cannot be
guaranteed to work. You might be able to build it with an older
compiler, but the packages *as uploaded* require the newer libgcc1.
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fixed now.
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developers should be downloading the packages, and this discourages
people from shoving it into apt lines.
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On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 08:30:03AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:29:00AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 05:41:40PM -0600, Jack Moffitt wrote:
Perhaps an easy thing to do would just be to show whether or not a
pckage is signed by a key which
++ is unfortunately pathological) packages from
woody will continue to work on sarge.
In short, I don't think packages are automatically removed from people's
systems as easily as you think.
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things the way they are,
I'd like to prepare a patch to change that -- so speak up now.
Go ahead.
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if there'll be wireless base
stations around or, will we be doing ad-hoc mode?)
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by the Content-Disposition: header.
Content-Disposition: inline should be displayed inline;
Content-Disposition: attachment will often be hidden until explicitly
opened.
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there, it's just that nobody's actually doing the
updates, though.
However, I wasn't aware of any of the pre-plans Kalle refers to. I
didn't think anyone had actually picked up this ball yet.
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On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:57:09PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Hi, Colin Watson wrote:
Yes, and also it causes nasty problems with character sets. There's
at least one bug filed, and I've been meaning to change it for a
while now.
True.
Color me embarrassed for not checking the bug
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 05:24:03PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
However, I wasn't aware of any of the pre-plans Kalle refers to. I
didn't think anyone had actually picked up this ball yet.
Pre-plans in this case means that two people (one DD and one NM
patches because they really aren't of any use
any more. Thanks ...)
Maintainers and translators need to have *mutual* respect.
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of
this.
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report and those which were written in a different character set from
the closing message.
I think on balance it would be worth it.
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would be an issue having the base system
bigger than it is now. Specially preparing very small black box where i
need to save as much space as i can even during the installation phase.
Can't you basically just 'rm -rf /usr/share/doc /usr/share/man' if
you're tight on space?
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anyway.
aj likes to say I'm wrong, but hasn't fixed the problems to make it
true.
Why is this thread still being cc'ed pointlessly between -private and
-devel?
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on
packages, not about what maintainers do.
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PROTECTED]/cvs/webwml, module webwml,
/english/security. You may need some extra bits to build the WML files.
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On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 10:17:40PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
(I'd quote a proverb about how small things lead to big things, but I
can't currently think of any of those in English. :)
Look after the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves.
Cheers,
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open_exec() to open it, which
(fs/exec.c) contains this code:
int err = permission(inode, MAY_EXEC);
if (!err !(inode-i_mode 0111))
err = -EACCES;
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that manually
supplying more information. See the web interface.
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(closes: #90276).
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need to include another
changelog entry, but the generated .changes will include a Closes: line
for all the NMU-fixed bugs.
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, nor is there any recoding performed to a common
character set. There are patches for that around that I intend to try to
merge.)
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to unstable at some point; I think I've
fixed the main issue that made 2.4 unsuitable for unstable (namely the
hashed directory structure breaking old non-CGI-using setups).
Pretty much everything we do goes into debbugs CVS, FWIW.
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On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:39AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote:
bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME
messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God
forbid) base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:01:51PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME
messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God
forbid) base64-encoded text is now
actually go and confirm the
fix rather than blindly accepting it.
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(Beware, the output is over a megabyte.)
/me rejoices recalling he was ranked 3rd by the number of open bugs :)
You still are. :)
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/debian-policy-200305/msg00051.html
Cheers,
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know of any instance where spam has actually opened a bug report?
I've never seen them include enough of a pseudo-header to make it
through.
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.
I agree that better use of the shared namespace would be an improvement:
I'd suggest /etc/mailname management as an example of something that's
ad-hoc at the moment. debconf-doc seems like the correct package in
which to put a registry.
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On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 09:33:12PM -0700, David Nusinow wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 02:16:50AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
Uh, I'm not sure this is a good example. Hasn't shared/news/server
existed for years? Both the newsreaders I maintain use it and have done
so since at least May 2000
Hi,
The BTS now has lfs (large file support) and ipv6 tags.
http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian.org/tag:ipv6 will
search for matching bugs.
Cheers,
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On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 12:52:02AM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:23:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
The BTS now has lfs (large file support) and ipv6 tags.
http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian.org/tag:ipv6 will
search for matching bugs.
Since
reopened, in this particular case just mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with a description of what was changed.
Brian's rightly trying to suggest that your changelogs should include
some detail of the changes in the future, though.)
Thanks,
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2.0.26.4-1.
Attila, if I were you I'd just try to upload a new release.
I wouldn't, that just means you get another 10-day delay before the
package gets into testing. Try asking debian-hppa.
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On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:32:47PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
kinkatta is not listed as being part of unstable, but kinkatta files are
part of unstable/Contents-i386.gz.
Contents files are updated infrequently - once a week or so, I think.
kinkatta was only removed on 28 May.
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, but unfortunately time
travel is not yet among our capabilities.
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users could sue, although they
could certainly write to SCO asking for the source. I would expect the
litigants to be the copyright holders of misappropriated code.
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On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 04:04:55PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:36:24 +0100, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 11:42:44PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Good point. Shall we mandate that all bug closures be adequately
documented
be compatible
with the existing gunzip. The plan is that if this works out well for
Debian, the functionality will be included in a future upstream gzip
release. Closes: #116183, #118118, #134741
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, and fixing the bugs gives useful information to other developers
on where problems are and where effort needs to be concentrated, saving
time for people who are interested in investigating these things.
In general, human effort is more valuable than autobuild effort.
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haven't looked too closely at who started this thread
then?
From: Francesco P. Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies
Package: libc5
Maintainer: Francesco Paolo Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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of a package should not be done if it makes it uninstallable.
This is generally the rule. Sometimes bad things have to happen to a
couple of packages in order to benefit a large number of packages
elsewhere, though.
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On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:03:42AM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
Le Mon 23/06/2003, Colin Watson disait
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 10:36:27AM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
Several packages like html2ps or apt-file are broken in sarge because
they were put from sid before their dependencies
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:21:18AM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
Le Mon 23/06/2003, Colin Watson disait
New versions of perl and python and a number of other things were pushed
into testing a number of weeks back. This allowed substantial
improvements in many packages and unblocked a lot
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 02:25:41PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 10:14:05AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
html2ps is broken due to perlmagick, which is still at a perl 5.6
version in testing. This was temporarily necessary because getting perl
5.8 was more important than
locate(1) ...
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from messing about with conffiles, not to stop anybody from
ever writing any program which touches a conffile.
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on
gcc-3.3 with a fixed ABI?
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to be dealt with individually. This
unfortunately takes time, especially when some of those packages'
dependencies (e.g. apt, in the case of apt-file) are themselves having
problems.
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question: what's the point? Surely you want the best, not
necessarily the GNU version (which might be an incredibly bleeding-edge
pre-alpha thing, like for example mailutils was not so long ago)?
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for users to do so.
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 08:26:48PM +0200, Vincent Zweije wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 05:17:15PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
|| What program should a user use to post a message from the command-line,
|| then? I've always used inews for this, and I think it's quite reasonable
|| for users
interface.
Eh? awk is a programming language. It seems unlikely that users who
don't know the difference will care much at all; if they don't read the
man page or some other more in-depth documentation then they won't be
able to use the program particularly effectively anyway.
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directories by hand. Consider people who keep their home
directories in sync (whether it be version control, NFS, unison, or
whatever) across multiple systems. Those people definitely don't want
purging a package on just one system to mess about with their shared
home directory.
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hint in update_out.py. I mentioned this to aj on 23 June.
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.
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implementation at the moment).
Which non-free Java implementations are part of Debian? I know of none.
I think that's exactly Florian's point.
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some people on IRC if you wanted a second opinion
on something you're doing.
Cheers,
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On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:08:04AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 10:50]:
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
Additionally, I would like to seriously propose establishing a
pre-upload interface to ftpmaster so
some
incentive for mainatiner to fix the problem).
They are *not* nearly broken. They are just out of date by a few
months. Why this urge to break compatibility? What useful purpose does
it serve?
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you understand? Breaking package builds for no good
reason is bad.
Cheers,
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is a little out of date. See the changelog:
icoutils (0.16.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
* New upstream release (closes: #160506).
- 'icotool --create' is now implemented! It can create icon or cursor
files from PNG images (closes: #130484).
[...]
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On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 09:15:51AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 03:27:00AM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote:
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 01:40:43AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
What about icoutils ?
Probably it extracts them only... as description seems to say
at debcamp.
I would prefer this solution.
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to
squash base system bugs, but it can be more productive nevertheless.
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packages which you should probably read.
More importantly, it's significantly less scary and more reliable to
have only one package providing basic tools like those in coreutils.
Cheers,
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there are
probably often involved in patching for po-debconf.
Quoting Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Would it be possible for such patches to be routinely produced in a way
that preserves the ability to build easily on woody, particularly for
packages in base? The openssh package has a technique
for more information]
Using .nf and .fi would probably be more sensible than large numbers of
.br requests. (Feel free to pass on this comment.)
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