[Fabio Rafael da Rosa]
I upgraded sid two days ago, and starting X via gdm does not set the
environment variable I've set in /etc/environment. Anyone has the
same problem ..?
It is probably a PAM configuration problem. You need the following
line in the /etc/pam.d/ file used by gdm:
auth
[Daniel Ruoso]
I've actually sent him an email but got no answer. I've posted in
debian-devel few days ago and nobody complained that GDM could source
/etc/environment in the init script. That's an one-line patch (already
tagged as patch in bts for more than a year)...
Remember that the file
[Bastian Blank]
i think the scripts should follow the update-X naming schema.
I agree. That would make it consistent of most of the Debian packages
providing such hooks.
[Matthew Palmer]
Yup. It's been posted before (it's called rc-alert). I've got a
copy here; if you can't find it in the archives (recently, like 6
months) e-mail me and I'll send it to you.
And if you want to figure out why a valid package still fail to enter
testing, you can use
[Gürkan Sengün]
I could not reach [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is mentioned
on the following page:
http://people.debian.org/~apenwarr/popcon/
Are you aware that the popcon project are now on alioth?
URL:https://alioth.debian.org/projects/popcon/
The work stopped up a bit because of the break-in,
[Lukas Geyer]
The free software community would profit much more from making gcc's
Fortran compiler compatible with the Fortran 95 standard.
Someone is already working on that. Check
URL:http://g95.sourceforge.net/. I'm sure more man-power would be
welcome. :)
[Hendrik Sattler]
Should kdebluetooth fix the include statements or should the
openobex.pc file say that includedir=${prefix}/include/openobex?
If the API documentation say openobex/obex.h, then kdebluetooth
should use that when including the header.
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[Martijn van Oosterhout]
Generate the key for 2007 on 1st of December 2006. This gives everyone
a month to get the new key before it's used.
One month is not enough. CD distributions, offline and stable
machines do not get updated every month.
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the content of the video memory
with the new content.
Anybody there who is working on it.
I have no idea. I'm not sure if anyone in the X consider it a
problem.
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to dash next spring. :)
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actually improve the boot time. :)
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, the popcon vote is not always accurate. It only use files in
some directories (like */bin/, but not */lib/*), so most library
packages will never get a vote, and most user packages will get votes.
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and standard compliance is a good thing, so patches are
almost always accepted when submitted. :)
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[Wouter Verhelst]
Which, I'm sure, is important for popcon maintainers; however, I
don't think it is very relevant in this discussion (unless you can
point me towards an editor that is implemented as a library ;-)
The problem do not only affect libraries. There are other packages
(with user
.
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[George Danchev]
or some hosts have popularity-contest installed from pure upstream sources
instead from a popularity-contest debian package, thus don't have it
registered with the dpkg db.
That would seriously surprise me, as popularity-contest only is
distributed as a Debian package, and
Java to the schools until the point where a free alternative exist
that will fulfill the needs of the schools.
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was shown and the sorting order was
different. This are though minor issues, compared to the situation
earlier, when almost no-one knew the current NEW status.
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and desktop-kde tasks are the most relevant for
your live CD, thought I know we have discussed having live CDs for
thin client servers to allow them to be completely without local
state.
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official LTSP packages from the LTSP project (as opposed to the muekow
approach we are working on in Debian.
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A similar system to yours was proposed by Olivier Sessink. Check out
The thread starting at
URL:http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/initscripts-ng-devel/2005-November/000225.html
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Affected packages are:
[...]
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How did you conclude that it depend on lesstif1? Its build depend is
'lesstif2-dev | lesstif-dev', to make sure it build with any version
of debian, but I believe it is built by lesstif2 by default
fetches the source
from disk. :)
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when executed in a separate process as well.
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more consistent. In Debian-Edu, we install and automatically
configure several services with SSL certiciates, like imap, ldap and
webmin, and it is a pain to handle all the ways SSL-certificates are
generated. :)
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etch. :)
I suspect you might wait in wane if you expect someone else to do
it. :)
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available on the first CD as well.
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the frequency of people treasuring their CPU time too much
to spend it on popularity-contest is about the same on all
architectures. :)
I believe the availability of hardware have a lot more impact on the
popcon statistics than the amount of people not running
popularity-contest.
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and groups present in /etc/passwd and /etc/group, and
libnss-ldap should be configured to not try so long before it give up.
I'm not sure what changed, but libnss-ldap with openldap on the same
machine work just fine both in woody and sarge.
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[Mike Hommey]
I don't know about the installer, but all filesystems I created with
mke2fs recently also have resize_inode, which isn't even in the
tune2fs manpage.
The default was recently changed in /etc/mke2fs.conf. It make life
with LVM a lot easier. :)
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[Andrew Suffield]
Seems like a poor reimplementation of a backup system to me. It's
independently useful, and gains nothing from being embedded into the
package manager, so why stuff it into the package manager?
I recommend reading the article, to gain some insight into the problem
it is
[David Sawyer]
Moral of the story: NEVER SHUTDOWN OR REBOOT WITHOUT ASKING.
Another moral might be to always test the stuff you plan to do on a
production server on a test-server first. I fail to see how it is
sensible to browse the net on a production server. And I fail to see
how it is
[Mikael Hedin]
checking whether the C++ compiler (g++-3.0 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -O2 ) is a
cross-compiler... yes
If the compile host fails to run it's fresly compiled hello world
program, it is assumed to be a cross comiler. The config.log file
would tell you why.
[Martinf]
For further explanation please check the detailed report at
http://master.debian.org/~joey/2.2r5/.
Is the security problem with libc glob() present i Potato?
According to
URL:http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2001-160.html, the bug
is present in 2.2.4, and according to
[Thomas Hood]
A master plan does not entail having a master tool, however.
Debian could use kudzu or harddrake to automatically adapt to HW
configuration changes. There is some work needed to get these to do
sensible things with the HW detected (on Debian that is), but both
being able to
[Sergio Rua]
I've a python script to autoconfigure X. It tries to configure
your X server using FrameBuffer. If it's not available, using
XFree -configure option detect and configure your X.
This sounds like a very good idea. How do you pass the configuration
information on
The current excuse for 'fam' in
URL:http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html.gz is
- fam (- to 2.6.6.1-4)
* Maintainer: Joerg Wendland
* 16 days old (needed 10 days)
* fam/hppa unsatisfiable Depends: libstdc++3 (=
1:3.0.3-0pre011215) ['gcc-3.0']
* Valid
[Ulrich Eckhardt]
Hi all,
I mailed the maintainer of the above package on the eleventh of
december and haven't got a reply yet. All the bugs of the package
are pretty old, a new version of the proggy is also available
upstream, current version is a year
old.
The same is the situation for
[Martin Schulze]
For further explanation please check the detailed report at
http://master.debian.org/~joey/2.2r5/.
libc6 is still not mentioned on this list. Is this on purpose, or did
someone forget to let you know?
There seem to be a security problem with the current potato/woody
glibc.
[Peter Jordan]
I am not sure if I should create my own installer package
(non-interactive) using debian-installer and a forked rootskel [...]
This sounds interesting and highly relevant to the work I'm currently
doing. Do you have a complete automatic non-interactive installation
working?
[Mark Brown]
You need to explicitly end Debconf processing in the postinst by
calling db_stop. debconf causes child processes to have an extra
file descriptor open and waits for these to be closed before exiting
and the daemon doesn't know it has this file open so doesn't close
it.
Is this
[Joerg Wendland]
If you run stable, use aptwatcher
(http://people.debian.org/~lowe/aptwatcher) and each box will mail you
when you need to do something to it.
Nice tool, seems to be going into some crontabs :-)
Is there any deb available for it?
[Bas Zoetekouw]
Is there anything I can do to get galeon included in woody? Since there
are no outstanding RC bugs, I assume there are dependency problems.
Did you check
URL:http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html.gz#galeon?
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The dillo and gpm packages are missing some binaries. The dillo
binary for ia64 was built on 2002-03-22, but is still missing from the
archive. The gpm binary for powerpc was built on 2002-03-23, but is
also missing from the archive.
Could someone have a look to find find out what happened.
The gpm v1.19.6-12 binary was built for powerpc on voltaire
2002-03-23, but it is still missing from the archive. Anyone know why
this binary is missing?
Check
URL:http://developer.skolelinux.no/info/cdbygging/distdiff.html.gz
and URL:http://auric.debian.org/~pb/shame/powerpc.html for the
[Rob Bradford]
Well, yeh but thats relatively recent. And exim does have eximconfig
which does work even if it isnt pretty.
It does not work well if you want install the packages automatically
on several hosts while supplying the configuration answers using
debconf. I hope it will soon. :-)
[Matthew Wilcox]
I got sick of listening to people discuss the gcc 3.2 transition in an
uninformed manner. So I've whipped up a transition plan which will
hopefully get us from A to B without causing too much pain. Haha.
I'm entirely fallible and I don't pretend to understand all the issues
[Hamish Moffatt]
I thought policy said something stronger than that, but I seem to be
wrong. Best practice used to be to ask questions only when there was
no sensible default whatsoever. Not to ask everything possible just
because you can.
Keeping the question priority at 'low' make sure most
[Olaf van der Spek]
Isn't debconf a bit 'expensive' just to allow pre-seeding?
No, it is amazingly cheap and simple. Did you have any cheaper
suggestions?
Having one consistent way to provide install time configuration is
important to be able to share configuration settings across custom
[Olaf van der Spek]
Don't debconf questions need to be translated?
Non-hidden questions should normally be translated, but the package
maintainer can choose if the question should be translated or not (by
not using _Description in the template).
Hidden questions (the prefered way to allow
[Manoj Srivastava]
4. Make dupload obsolete, and replace with dput. Make dput the
default in debrelease. I think dput would have prevented me
uploading my unsigned package.
~/.dupload.conf:
$preupload{'changes'} = 'gpg --verify %1';
$preupload{'sourcepackage'} = 'j=$(echo %1 | tr
[Marco d'Itri]
I am considering switching the init scripts of my packages to
lsb-base (which means that it will have to be promoted to important
priority, at least).
If anybody has objections please voice them now.
I already did this for discover1, but did this in a way to make it use
[Thomas Hood]
The package is only 20 kbytes installed. Let's just start Depending on it.
I agree. We should start using the LSB, not just talk about trying to
be LSB conforming. :)
But I made the use optional for discover1 because someone complained
and said it was just a fancy way to get
[Martin Pitt]
This gave me a good laugh, and it's certainly way better than SuSE
or Micro$$$ IIS :-), but still a bit embarrasing...
Why is it embarrasing? Are Ubuntu sponsoring the machine, the hosting
site, providing the OS, or what?
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[Andreas Tille]
if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user
complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating
bugs?
To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in? As
we have limited time and people, it is smart to start with the bugs
[Jon Dowland]
I've been thinking about how popcon might be suggested by
debian-installer. A cursory google search shows that this has been
discussed in the past: can anyone point me at a summary?
The next version of d-i will ask for participation during the
installation. It was fixed just
[Lars Wirzenius]
The way I'm running it now, it installs and purges each package
(plus dependencies), and then compares the state of the filesystem
(the chroot) before and after and reports files that have been
modified, removed, or created.
Can you do upgrade testing as well. It would be
[Florian Weimer]
Developers must be careful to Cc: the submitters, otherwise they
probably never receive the message.
What about the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address? I thought it send
a message both to BTS and to the submitter? I use it all the time
when I want the submitter to get the message. I
620 without arch info)
New in version 1.30 is support for reporting using HTTP POST, to make
it possible for machines without working MTA to participate as well.
Please direct any questions to popcon-developers at lists.alioth.debian.org.
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[Michelle Konzack]
Are there really only 5398 machines in i386 ?
Well, you need to remember the 620 reports without any arch info. 95%
of them are probalby running i386 as well. :)
I cant belive it... I have already 13 i386 machines with popcon and
now I will install it on my Macintosh
[Erik Schanze]
Perhaps more will participate if you zip the report, to reduce
traffic. It's requested in bug 149425 for years.
[Michelle Konzack]
FullACK. - Most of my friends in Turkey and arabic counties too.
The HTTP upload is sending a gzip-ed version. I'm working on a
version
[Ron Johnson]
Soon after you put it in Experimental, installed it, for that very
reason.
I got a parse error on this one. I suspect you are unaware that the
HTTP option is available in unstable, version 1.30.
Maybe a post to d-u would spread the word.
Yes, that would be nice. But I leave
[Andrew Suffield]
AMs aren't much better, as a group. The FD checks their applications
so as not to waste the DAM's time reviewing bogus ones, and the DAM
checks them to filter out people who shouldn't get in. The reason
why we need both these checks is most simply explained by pointing
out
[Andrew Suffield]
How about 'not second guessing people without cause'?
Sounds like a good idea. I am not sure how this comment is connected
to the message you replied to.
I tried to avoid second guessing you, by asking the following
question:
You seem to assume that all rejections are
[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]
I will probably drop arts support on the floor to be able to be
happy once again (also known as not needing to care about a
dependency hell the size of a small mountain to add almost no useful
functionality whatsoever to timidity), if KDE does not transition
[Marcelo E. Magallon]
The list and script can be found in
http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/gcc-transition/
Are you going to keep it up to date? Is it generated using a cronjob,
or do you update it manually?
It would be great if someone could add a link to your updated graph
from
[Eldon Koyle]
Maybe I'm missing something?
I suspect you are. Are you aware of
URL:http://secure-testing.alioth.debian.org/?
If you see through
URL:http://dc5video.debian.net/2005-07-12/08-Securing_the_Testing_Distribution-Joey_Hess.mpeg,
you will hear more about it. The status of testing
with upstream as well, to try to make the choosen name
used in other distros.
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[Piotr Roszatycki]
I've tried to replace /bin/sh with /bin/posh and it was completly disaster.
Did the same happen using /bin/dash as /bin/sh? I believe it is
comparable in size with posh.
The system was fucked up. I've found the errors in critical init
scripts: file-rc (/etc/init.d/rc),
[Timo Aaltonen]
Single-user mode is a fiasco, because in /etc/rcS.d/* there are a number
of services that really should not belong there. Examples:
-network
-all disks (including NFS) mounted
..and those that depend on them.
Yes, singleuser in debian is not working very
[Simon Richter]
I'd counterpropose to make this optional. I very much like the fact
that the runlevels have no default meaning and would prefer it to
stay that way, although I can see the issue of LSB compliance.
Care to share with us on why you like the current setup?
Personally, I hate that
[Miquel van Smoorenburg]
If you don't want NFS mounts in single user mode, don't put them in
/etc/fstab ...
Your simple solution do not match all installation. For those
installation with NFS mounts in fstab and no automount setting, it
would be useful with a singleuser mode without mounting
author is good,
it is not such a big deal. And the communication between a debian
maintainer and upstream should alwasy be good for the maintainer job
to be done properly. :)
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[Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt]
After I invested an hour so to track down the reason for an evil
FTBFS, I have a very simple request: If you maintain a library that
gets used by other people and you break the API, you should notify
them. Really.
A good idea. Perhaps we should have a tool in the
[W. Borgert]
as a conclusion of many discussions at DebConf5, I propose to
maintain all packages by teams.
I agree that it is good to maintain packages in teams, to make sure
the project is less vulnerable to single maintainers going on
vacation, becoming sick, being run over by a bus or other
[John Hasler]
You would have a team maintain 'units'? That's silly.
I guess it is equally silly as it is to maintain prebaseconfig in a
team. The prebaseconfig package is very simple, and maintained by a
team together with a lot of other very simple packages. It works
quite well to maintain
[Steinar H. Gunderson]
How do you make this work? Last time I tried it, X would only show
the one connected to the ???active??? virtual console, and blanked
the other.
It need some patches to the kernel and X. I'm not sure how many of
these are included in the mainstream kernel and X
[Daniel Stone]
Ubuntu implements this from the installer down (although only for
the special cases of four nVidia, MGA, or ATI cards, and even then
you may need to fiddle with the configuration a little bit), with a
bunch of patches to xorg -- no kernel patches required. Those
patches are
[Alexander Schmehl]
Do you realy think you can enforce teamwork? I don't think so.
Either some people will work together as a team or individuals will
do it their own way. And I don't think it will be a good idea, to
force those individuals to work in a team.
I agree. There will always be
[Roberto C. Sanchez]
OK. Please identify the most important packages in Debian :-) Hint:
this is not easy. There would need to be some sort of metric or
heuristic for deciding the importance of a package.
I do not see the need for a waterproof definition capable of splitting
the archive in
[Wouter Verhelst]
b) the three beforementioned teams could already refuse to
support a port anyhow, simply by not doing the work.
This is not really a valid argument. If a team in debian refuses to
accept decisions made by a majority of debian developers, or rejects
democratic control,
Recently, I have been investigating how to speed up the boot process
in Debian, and during this work, I found a simple way to change
/etc/init.d/rc to run all init.d scripts with the same sequence number
in parallell. Patch included below. For this change to work as it
should, we need to make
[Marcelo E. Magallon]
Isn't just:
wait
enough?
In this case, yes. In the general case, it is unknown if a background
process was forked off earlier in the script, so you want to control
which processes to wait for.
I suspect 'wait $pid || true' or similar is needed though, as the
[Martin F Krafft]
The place to discuss issues like this would be the initscripts-ng
project on alioth. There's a mailing list...
Good idea. I'll head over there. :)
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[Marco d'Itri]
I'm sure that a fair number of critical scripts (e.g. some dealing
with networking) are not.
Yeah, me too. I've seen incorrect init.d ordering several times. And
to be able to detect and fix incorrect boot order, we need to know
dependencies. I hope as many as possible will
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to be able to detect and fix incorrect boot order, we need to know
dependencies
[Thomas Bushnell]
Quite the contrary; it seems to me that this is to work *passively*
against something.
Not doing the work is working passively against it, while prohibiting
others from doing the work is working actively against it. If you do
both, you are working actively against it.
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[Tollef Fog Heen]
This doesn't handle the case of dynamic dependencies:
That is correct. So to handle those, one need to support override
files loaded from somewhere else. This also make it possible to add
dependency info for scripts currently missing it.
I got a sketch package working as a
[Joerg Jaspert]
You can find this list at
http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html in the future and that
one will also be updated if we need to.
Nice list. What about linking it in from
URL:http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html? :)
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[Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña]
Either case they should be REJECTED with a proper reasoning as to
why they have been rejected.
And please add this information to the WNPP request, for the rest of
us to see it. It is hard to fix the remaining issues if we need to
track down a description of
[Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña]
Any free GIS anyone?
Lots of Free GIS software around. Check out
URL:http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl. :)
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db.debian.org contains (optional) fields for the location of each
developer, an information which currently is only used to generate
edwards's fancy maps. there are other potential uses for this, like
making it possible to find fellow debian developers at some place that
you
[Goswin von Brederlow]
Nothing is available before init is started, init is always the
first thing to start, even on initrd or initramfs (some archs call
init linuxrc though).
You suspect you miss the point. bootchartd is a init _replacement_.
We use it by passing init=/sbin/bootchartd to the
[Andreas Tille]
... I'm not skilled enough to fix this. :-(
Try using lesstif instead. It is a motif clone. I recommend
installing lesstif2-dev instead of the motif development package, and
try again.
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I am unsure if such patch would be accepted upstream, since Cyrus
runs on more then Linux and *BSD variants.
Does Solaris/AIX/whatever(tm) has stdint.h?
I believe both SOlaris and AIX got it. It is a POSIX standard header. Check
[Delian Delchev]
I'm very new to debian development, but I'm old debian fan. I don't
know is that the right list for suggestions because I'm really
new. Please somebody to read that mail and to show me the right way
:)
I'm working on similar things. My approach is to add dependency
[Florian Weimer]
typedef int64_t long long;
There are 64-bit architectures which whose C compiler does not
support long long. long long is a C99 feature, too, but it's much
older than stdint.h (it was supported by the GNU compiler in the
early 90s, IIRC).
Any examples of an 64-bit
[Allyn, MarkX A]
I have been noticing (and a bit irritated) at the spam I am seeing
on this and some other email lists. The latest was a bit offensive
for me in my work environment.
The debian lists are not doing a great job in blocking spam. You
might want to consider reading the lists using
wish the debian mail server would do an equally good job. :)
Friendly,
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