Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Stefano, Am Tue, May 21, 2024 at 02:36:47PM + schrieb Stefano Rivera: > Hi Philip (2024.05.21_10:05:59_+) > > Attempts at top-down imposition of new methods on Debian strike me as > > being unlikely to induce joy in anyone involved. > > Yeah, that doesn't fly in community projects

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Wed, May 22, 2024 at 12:32:32AM +0200 schrieb Salvo Tomaselli: > > And what's the advantage? When an nmu happens the person doing it normally > doesn't bother to push to salsa anyway. At most I get a patch in the > bugreport, or I have to diff the packages and import the diff. IMHO this is

Re: Any volunteers for lintian co-maintenance?

2024-05-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Niels, at first sorry for my late answer. At Thu, May 09, 2024 Niels Thykier wrote: > You are welcome to quote me in public, though I feel it will not help your > cause. This reply is in private to you, so you can choose whether you want > to quote me. I think any answer should be discussed.

Re: Any volunteers for lintian co-maintenance?

2024-05-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Fri, May 10, 2024 at 12:18:29PM +0200 schrieb Niels Thykier: > Soren Stoutner: > > I would like to respectfully disagree will some of the opinions expressed > > in this email. > > Hi Soren > > Not sure if we disagree all that much to be honest. :) I think we all agree that we need some

Re: Any volunteers for lintian co-maintenance?

2024-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
that his answer "will not help my case" - but well, I do not think that hiding problems will help anybody else. At Tue, May 07, 2024 at 15:59:21 +0200 Andreas Tille wrote > Hi Perl folks, > ... > --> see full mail at > https://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2024/05/msg0.ht

Correction: New appointments for the Debian Technical Committee: csmall

2024-04-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Dear fellow developers, sorry, the list of CTTE members in my last mail contained Simon McVittie but his term has ended already. Thanks to Simon for his previous work and here comes the corrected text (with no change but the correct list of members). As defined by our constitution (§6.2.2),

Re: Binary conflict between Midnight Commander and MinIO Client

2024-04-24 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 09:28:29AM +0200 schrieb Philip Hands: > >> /usr/libexec/minio-client/bin/mc -> /usr/bin/mcli > > Might I suggest that the link goes the other way, so that the symlink > lives in /usr/bin? That way the existence of the lib directory is > somewhat self-documenting.

Re: Status of the t64 transition

2024-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Sebastian, thank you for your work on t64 transition. Am Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 09:22:02PM +0200 schrieb Sebastian Ramacher: I've spotted these Debian Med packages. > gentle > jellyfish > quorum > sbmltoolbox No idea how we can help here. Please let us know if we can do something. > anfo

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-04-14 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 09:36:25PM +0200 schrieb Bastian Blank: > > - I also think disallowing single-person maintainership would be very > > unwise, > > though I agree team maintenance in general is probably better than > > single-person maintainership. Still disallowing single-person > >

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-04-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 01:16:37AM +0900 schrieb Simon Richter: > > For example, any repository that does not list debian/files and > debian/*.substvars in the gitignore will fail to build twice in a row, > because these files are created and are subsequently untracked. Sorry, no. We should

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-04-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Wookey, Am Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 05:52:43PM +0100 schrieb Wookey: > Right - this was (one of the) main thing(s) that annoyed me enough to > just go back to the non-git based workflow. I started packaging with VCS in 2007i. Thanks to some Debian Med team members (mainly Charles Plessy) I was

Re: About Package Maintenance (was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 01:03:10PM + schrieb Stefano Rivera: > > I have also noticed that the young people we manage to recruit are > > usually not interested too much in the boring gruntwork of maintaining > > important core packages (like adduser and sudo) but instead want to do > > "new"

Janitor (Was: About Package Maintenance)

2024-04-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Colin, Am Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 12:03:52PM +0100 schrieb Colin Watson: > I'm not sure how widely known it is, but the Janitor does have a > mechanism for overriding the versions of Debian it retains compatibility > with based on various considerations, and I've found it useful to land > changes

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-04-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Julien, Am Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 03:45:48PM +0200 schrieb Julien Puydt: > > I only use salsa's git. That begs two questions: > - What do I miss by not using the web interface? If you are owner of a team repository you need to manage members. As far as I know this is only possible via web

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi again, Am Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 04:10:15PM +0200 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > > > > What is your opinion about pushing logtool to Salsa? > > I did that as part of my latest upload :) > > https://salsa.debian.org/wouter/logtool Great. > (I realize now that I forgot to add VCS headers... ah

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Wouter, Am Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 03:31:43PM +0200 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > [Feel free to quote any part of this email which I wrote outside of this > mailinglist] OK, moving the discussion to debian-devel where it should belong. > Debian packages need to be well maintained. In some cases,

Re: Package marked for autoremoval due to closed bug?

2024-03-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Paul, Am Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 09:52:06PM +0100 schrieb Paul Gevers: > For bookkeeping purposes, please usertag downgraded bugs with user > release.debian@packages.debian.org and usertag time_t-downgrade. > > Please be careful with downgrading RC bugs. I agree with Ian that it might make

Linker fails to find libraries in unstable but succeeds in testing

2024-03-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, thanks to the next round of Lucas' FTBFS QA rebuilds (at least) one package of the R pkg team is affected by some strange linker issue #1066409 r-cran-v8: FTBFS: ld: cannot find -lv8: No such file or directory which boils down to[1] g++ -std=gnu++17 -shared -L/usr/lib/R/lib -Wl,-z,relro -o

Re: Package marked for autoremoval due to closed bug?

2024-03-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:15:18PM -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > Migration to testing is largely out of control of the maintainers at this > point, it's very much dependent on folks rebootstrapping armel and armhf > against the new library names. Should these bugs be downgraded again to >

Re: How to ask efficiently for removal of 32 bit architectures of about 40 packages (Was: reverse dependenc)

2024-03-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Micha, Am Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 06:25:02AM +0100 schrieb Micha Lenk: > What you are trying to accomplish is no regular bug reporting but some > manipulation of existing bugs. Hence the control server must be used directly > by sending your mail to cont...@bugs.debian.org instead of submit@...

Re: How to ask efficiently for removal of 32 bit architectures of about 40 packages (Was: reverse dependenc)

2024-03-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Mattia, Am Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 11:35:55PM +0100 schrieb Mattia Rizzolo: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 09:12:30PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > I hope there is some better solution than sending single bug reports > > for those packages. If ftpmaster tooling really needs single bu

How to ask efficiently for removal of 32 bit architectures of about 40 packages (Was: reverse dependenc)

2024-03-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 06:25:50PM + schrieb Thorsten Alteholz: > Control: tags -1 + moreinfo > > please file one RM bug for each package that needs to be partially removed. > This needs to be done even for dependencies of dependencies. > Please remove the moreinfo tag once that is done.

Re: clustalw lost in debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.{gx}z ?

2024-03-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 12:12:45PM + schrieb Colin Watson: > "rmadison clustalw" shows: Shame on me I always forget about rmadison which explains things perfectly. > So since clustalw/2.1+lgpl-7/i386 is still in oldstable and stable, it > has to be kept in the pool; files are only expired

Re: clustalw lost in debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.{gx}z ?

2024-03-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 11:41:42AM + schrieb Colin Watson: > Search for "clustalw" in https://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt: > > [Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 18:19:39 -] [ftpmaster: Thorsten Alteholz] > Removed the following packages from unstable: > > clustalw | 2.1+lgpl-7 |

clustalw lost in debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.{gx}z ?

2024-03-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I'm working on some time_t side effects on the emboss package and by doing so stumbled I upon the fact that i386 builds of packages with a Build-Dependency on clustalw are failing. You can see an example in Salsa CI for libbio-tools-run-alignment-clustalw-perl[1] which contains The

Re: Run Debian packaging tasks remotely with debusine.debian.net

2024-03-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi again, please forgot my reference to "rott" (which should have rather been "ratt") ... I'm just reading those other mails of fellow contributors having the same question. Sorry for the noise Andreas. Am Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 11:53:10AM +0100 schrieb Andreas Tille: >

Re: Run Debian packaging tasks remotely with debusine.debian.net

2024-03-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Colin, Am Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 11:41:27AM + schrieb Colin Watson: > > Speaking about Salsa CI: I would like to do what Enrico mentioned to > > somehow re-run building some Salsa commit using sbuild and (optionally) > > the autopkgtest on the result. > > We don't have direct support for

Re: Run Debian packaging tasks remotely with debusine.debian.net

2024-03-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Colin, Am Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 05:06:48PM + schrieb Colin Watson: > https://freexian-team.pages.debian.net/debusine/ > > > https://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2023/MiniDebConf-Cambridge/debusine.webm Looks good. > https://debusine.debian.net/ Jut created a

Can we switch off the testing removal messages related to t64 migration? (Was: Confusion over t64 migration)

2024-02-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 06:46:58PM +0100 schrieb Andreas Metzler: > Looking at "your" bug #1062097 it looks like you were unlucky, mine all > had a fat warning "NOTICE: these changes must not be uploaded to > unstable yet!". I also was trapping into that pitfall when I was intending to fix

Debian Med video meeting today Saturday 2024-01-13 19:00 UTC

2024-01-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video meeting of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. Meetings usually take us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about and how many people are joining. The next meeting is tomorrow

Debian Med sprint February 16.-18. 2024 in Berlin (in person meeting)

2024-01-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, the Debian Med team will held its yearly in person meeting from Friday, February 16 (evening) until Sunday, February 18 (evening) in Berlin. For more detailed information please visit the Wiki page[1] and if you like to join our small meeting with bug squashing (may be Python 3.12 bug fixing

Re: DebGPT: how LLM can help debian development? demo available.

2024-01-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 01:06:25PM +0100 schrieb Andrey Rakhmatullin: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 11:33:06AM +0200, Andrius Merkys wrote: > > On 2024-01-03 11:12, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 09:58:33AM +0200, Andrius Merkys wrote: > > > > To me the most time consuming

Re: Sunsetting Debtags

2023-12-25 Thread Andreas Tille
[Sorry for my late reply] Dear Enrico, Am Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 07:31:33PM +0100 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: > Quoting Enrico Zini (2023-11-26 17:01:11) > > about a year ago I announced the intention of letting go of Debtags[1]. > > > > No successor has happened to carry over maintenance since

Debian Med video meeting tomorrow Saturday 2023-12-09 19:00 UTC

2023-12-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video meeting of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. Meetings usually take us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about and how many people are joining. The next meeting is tomorrow

Debian Med video meeting tomorrow Saturday 2023-11-11 19:00 UTC

2023-11-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video meeting of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. Meetings usually take us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about and how many people are joining. The next meeting is tomorrow

Debian Med video meeting tomorrow Saturday 2023-10-14 19:00 UTC

2023-10-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video meeting of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. After some summer break we decided to meet only once a month every second Saturday of a month at 19 UTC. Meetings usually take us only 15-20min depending

Re: Kind invitation to join my DebConf BoF "Chatting with ftpmasters"

2023-09-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Short note: The print version of the slides has only 25 pages: https://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/20230911_debconf_ftpmaster_bof/ftpmaster_chat_handout.pdf Sorry for not mentioning in advance Andreas. Am Sat, Sep 09, 2023 at 07:46:08AM +0200 schrieb Andreas Tille: > Hi ftpmast

Kind invitation to join my DebConf BoF "Chatting with ftpmasters"

2023-09-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi ftpmasters and developers who contributed to previous discussion with ftpmaster on this list You might have noticed that I registered "Chatting with ftpmasters"[1] for Debconf which is scheduled Sep 11 (Mon): 16:30 local time in Kochi (just check the website for your local time which is

Debian Med video conference tomorrow Sunday 2023-06-18 18:00 UTC

2023-06-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. Meetings usually take us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about and how many people are joining. The next meeting is tomorrow

Debian Med video conference tomorrow Sunday 2023-05-20 18:00 UTC

2023-05-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. Meetings usually take us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about and how many people are joining. The next meeting is tomorrow

Debian Med video conference tomorrow Sunday 2023-04-16 18:00 UTC

2023-04-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. Meetings usually take us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about and how many people are joining. The next meeting is tomorrow

Debian Med video conference tomorrow Sunday 2023-03-19 18:00 UTC

2023-03-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. Meetings usually take us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about and how many people are joining. The next meeting is tomorrow

Re: automated CI on salsa to prepare MR for new upstream version

2023-02-25 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 11:25:11AM +0100 schrieb Andreas Tille: > > Does it call deb-new-upstream as well? That's the one that mainly seems > > relevant here. > > I just learned about deb-new-upstream. Its parsing uscan manually but its not > very robust and I should proba

Re: automated CI on salsa to prepare MR for new upstream version

2023-02-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:32:06PM + schrieb Jelmer Vernooij: > > > > is your friend. It also calls scripts that are used by Janitor. > > Does it call deb-new-upstream as well? That's the one that mainly seems > relevant here. I just learned about deb-new-upstream. Its parsing uscan

Re: automated CI on salsa to prepare MR for new upstream version

2023-02-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Yaroslav, Am Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:05:03AM -0500 schrieb Yaroslav Halchenko: > I just wanted to say Thank you for all the pointers! Overall, janitor > looks great and the most advanced and seems already covering various > aspects but might be a bit "too big to tune for our own use-case", so

Debian Med video conference next Sunday 2023-02-05 18:00 UTC

2023-02-03 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. We diverge from our usual rule First Friday of a month Third Sunday of a month since I'm traveling today and thus we agreed on Matrix to meet on

Re: Should singularity-container make it to next release?

2023-01-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 08:22:15AM -0700 schrieb Sam Hartman: > > Well, if you and a group of people believe you can maintain it in stable > given the additional discussions ith upstream, then explicitly say > you're ready to sign up to maintaining in stable. > I think that's the kind of

Re: Should singularity-container make it to next release?

2023-01-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, it would be great if someone from Security Team might raise some opinion to this question. Kind regards Andreas. Am Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 03:51:10PM +0530 schrieb Nilesh Patra: > Hi, > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 09:38:27PM +0530, Nilesh Patra wrote: > > src:singularity-container was

Debian Med video conference tomorrow, first Friday of January 2023-01-06 18:00 UTC

2023-01-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. In last conference we decided about a new scheme to find a date: First Friday of a month Third Sunday of a month The rationale is that several

Re: Debian Med video conference tomorrow, third Sunday of December 2022-12-18 18:00 UTC

2022-12-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. In last conference we decided about a new scheme to find a date: First Friday of a month Third Sunday of a month The rationale is that several

Re: Is an autogenerated configure shell script non-editable source (Was: Bug#1025739: hmmer2: missing source for configure)

2022-12-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:43:37AM -0500 schrieb Boyuan Yang: > > Not sure if it is the root cause, but there's an obvious typo with quote at > L12: > https://salsa.debian.org/med-team/hmmer2/-/blob/423388accbb8c622edb663c845f1f5a6336256e1/debian/rules#L12 > . Ahhh, thanks - I was seeking for

Re: Is an autogenerated configure shell script non-editable source

2022-12-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Paul, Am Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 12:21:18PM +0800 schrieb Paul Wise: > > So far for the actual case (bug report in CC). > > > > For the general case I somehow understand the consensus here on the list > > that a missing configure.ac can be considered a bug but the severity > > serious is not

Re: Is an autogenerated configure shell script non-editable source (Was: Bug#1025739: hmmer2: missing source for configure)

2022-12-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Andreas, Am Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:41:11AM +0100 schrieb Andreas Metzler: > > I have given this a a little bit of time. This seems to work: > > 1. Copy configure.ac from upstream's 2.3.2h2 branch. Seems in tag 2.3.2h2 happened what I tried with 2.3.2[1] at least the resulting configure.ac

Re: Is an autogenerated configure shell script non-editable source

2022-12-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 11:58:56AM -0800 schrieb Russ Allbery: > The real problem in this case is less about the DFSG and more about the > practical problems of maintaining Debian as a software distribution: if we > can't regenerate configure using software in Debian, there are a lot of > porting

Re: Is an autogenerated configure shell script non-editable source (Was: Bug#1025739: hmmer2: missing source for configure)

2022-12-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Marco Am Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 03:33:38PM +0100 schrieb Marco d'Itri: > On Dec 09, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > I would consider asking upstream about this for sure but the code is in > > maintenance mode and there is no Git repository to step back in history. > >

Is an autogenerated configure shell script non-editable source (Was: Bug#1025739: hmmer2: missing source for configure)

2022-12-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Helmut, IMHO this should be discussed more widely. Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 08:09:22PM +0100 schrieb Helmut Grohne: > Control: tags -1 - moreinfo > > On Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 05:56:18PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > I agree that this configure script looks auto generated

Debian Med video conference tomorrow, first Friday of December 2022-12-02 18:00 UTC

2022-12-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. In last conference we decided about a new scheme to find a date: First Friday of a month Third Sunday of a month The rationale is that several

Debian Med video conference Sunday 2022-11-20 18:00 UTC

2022-11-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. In last conference we decided about a new scheme to find a date: First Friday of a month Third Sunday of a month The rationale is that several

Debian Med video conference tomorrow, Wednesday 2022-11-02 18:00 UTC

2022-11-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. We do these conferences twice per month on every 2th and 17th of a month. Usually it takes us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about

Re: Bug#1023083: ITP: libquazip1-qt5 -- Qt/C++ wrapper over minizip - Version 1 (Qt5)

2022-10-30 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 09:09:55AM +0530 schrieb Nilesh Patra: > > >>> I understand that, let's take it away from Debian Med and put it in > > >>> Debian at > > >>> large. Ben, if you would do the update, then I'd go over it and upload > > >>> it. That > > >>> would be very good. > > If you

Re: /boot partition too small

2022-10-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Fri, Oct 07, 2022 at 07:13:12AM +0200 schrieb Enrico Zini: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 06:16:56PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > Can you clarify? Is the new intramfs generated in /boot or generated outside > > of /boot but copied to /boot under a different name so it can be replaced > >

Re: Russian locale on reprotest in Salsa CI?

2022-10-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 10:53:55AM +0200 schrieb Santiago Ruano Rincón: > > Well, scroll up a bit. It starts all fine in English, only the last make > > appears to switch. > > Build system doing something fun? > > like varying the locale where the package is built. It is a reprotest > thing.

Russian locale on reprotest in Salsa CI?

2022-10-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, my Russian is a bit rusty but I can understand what I can read here: https://salsa.debian.org/science-team/cimfomfa/-/jobs/3372898#L1249 I'm just a bit astonished to see this locale set. No idea what's wrong here but I think this should be switched to English. Kind regards Andreas.

Re: Should singularity-container make it to next release?

2022-10-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 06:20:11PM +0200 schrieb olivier sallou: > > | At this point there it appears that Apptainer 1.0 will be very close > > | to SingularityCE 3.9 which we released recently, given > > | the picks from SingularityCE into the code base. > > > > So I am absolutely confused

Bitbucket changed download page - possibly lots of watch files affected (Was: Help needed for watch file after bitbucket changed download page)

2022-09-29 Thread Andreas Tille
ese watch files might be not working any more. May be gitmode as proposed by Juri Grabowski[2] is a promising solution (but as I wrote in my response it does not create the link to orig.tar.gz). Kind regards Andreas. > On 29 September 2022 12:54:47 pm IST, Andreas Tille

Debian Med video conference on Wednesday 2022-09-28 18:00 UTC

2022-09-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. Due to time constraints we do not meet at 2nd October as usually but tomorrow (28th September). Usually it takes us only 15-20min depending what we are

Debian Med video conference on Monday 2022-08-19 18:00 UTC

2022-09-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. Please note that we do not meet at 17th as usually but on 19th. Usually it takes us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about and how many people

Re: Comments on proposing NEW queue improvement (Re: Current NEW review process saps developer motivation

2022-08-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 09:53:40AM -0400 schrieb M. Zhou: > In my fuzzy memory, the last discussion on NEW queue improvement > involves the disadvantages by allowing SOVERSION bump to directly > pass the NEW queue. I'm not going to trace back, because I know > this will not be implemented unless

Re: Comments on proposing NEW queue improvement (Re: Current NEW review process saps developer motivation

2022-08-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 04:13:43PM -0400 schrieb M. Zhou: > If one's enthusiasm on working on some package is eventually > worn out after a break, then try to think of the following question: > > Is it really necessary to introduce XXX to Debian? May be I'm repeating myself but having packages

Re: Need a buildd build after trip through NEW -- best practice?

2022-08-24 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 12:09:20AM + schrieb Holger Levsen: > > it's rather easy to do too, though maybe there should be something in > src:devscripts > implementing something along these lines: Sure its easy and may be everybody (including me) has written some local scripts. The fact that

Debian Med video conference tomorrow, Tuesday 2022-08-02 18:00 UTC

2022-08-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. We do these conferences twice per month on every 2th and 17th of a month. Usually it takes us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about

Re: how about matrix channel

2022-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 09:04:59PM +0100 schrieb Wookey: > > Matrix please. It's free software all the way through. We can run our > own server. Not-mobile-phones are 1st class clients. This not-mobile-phone issue is very important for me. > Signal is presumably OK if you run your own

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 09:33:10PM +0200 schrieb Michael Biebl: > > I switched to Matrix (and its IRC bridge) as I no longer wanted to run an > IRC bouncer. > It works reasonably well. > > Using a "native" debian/debian-devel room would be an alternative I'd prefer > over a Telegram channel.

Re: Bug#1007002: Lintian breaks existing lintian-overrides due to added []

2022-06-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Axel, Am Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 06:01:33PM +0200 schrieb Axel Beckert: > Andreas: Sorry if I was a bit too opposing because of assuming that > every DD uses Unstable by default. No need to be sorry, really not. I simply missed the point of that change. > (Actually I think the Dev Ref says >

Re: Lintian breaks existing lintian-overrides due to added []

2022-06-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Samuel and Axel, Am Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 04:10:49PM +0200 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > Axel Beckert, le mer. 29 juin 2022 15:49:11 +0200, a ecrit: > > > I consider these [] not helpful […] no visible advantage. OK, thanks for making the advantages visible to me then. I'll start editing

Lintian breaks existing lintian-overrides due to added []

2022-06-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I realised that lintian (at least) starting with version 2.115.1 (may be earlier) wraps file names into [] which breaks existing lintian-overrides. Random example: https://salsa.debian.org/med-team/biomaj3-user/-/blob/master/debian/lintian-overrides now becomes invalid by lintian

Debian Med video conference today, Thursday 2022-06-02 18:00 UTC

2022-06-02 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. We do these conferences twice per month on every 2th and 17th of a month. Usually it takes us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about

Re:  Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470

2022-05-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Thu, May 26, 2022 at 08:47:20AM +0200 schrieb Nilesh Patra: > Would it be possible to manually remove this item from the list that generates > autoremovals? ... or generate a blacklist of packages that should not trigger those removals. The autoremoval warnings are pretty helpful in general

Debian Med video conference tomorrow, Tuesday 2022-05-17 18:00 UTC

2022-05-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. We do these conferences twice per month on every 2th and 17th of a month. Usually it takes us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about

rules-needs-root: yes (Was: popularity-contest: support for XB-Popcon-Reports: no)

2022-05-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Wed, May 04, 2022 at 07:23:43PM +0200 schrieb julien.pu...@gmail.com: > If there's a growing list of boolean control fields, isn't it the > indication that some sort of tagging system might make more sense? > > Instead of three lines: > > XB-Popcon-Reports: no > Rules-Requires-Root: yes

Re: How to get rid of unused packages (Was: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0)

2022-05-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Wed, May 04, 2022 at 08:02:51AM +0200 schrieb Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues: > During my last round of mass-rebuilds I unfortunately didn't apply this > heuristic and stumbled across src:ants. In contrast to Andreas, I think that > even packages without a maintainer upload for >10 years

Debian Med video conference tomorrow, Mondayday 2022-05-02 18:00 UTC

2022-05-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. We do these conferences twice per month on every 2th and 17th of a month. Usually it takes us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Scott, thanks a lot for becoming involved into this discussion. Am Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 11:26:33AM -0400 schrieb Scott Kitterman: > 2. Not rejecting packages with serious defects: > > I'm not sure I understand what it proposed: > > > The ftpmasters could simply file severity serious bug

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Paul, Am Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 07:13:42AM +0800 schrieb Paul Wise: > > The packaging work is supposed to start *after* the ITP is filed, Sure. > so > this is a suboptimal order to do things in and doesn't provide much > value, The "packaging work" to create the debian/ dir is a 1min process

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Paul, Am Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 06:46:43PM +0800 schrieb Paul Wise: > There are two main categories of NEW packages; source and binary. > Packages adding an new source should have an ITP bug, but don't > always, for eg the Rust/Golang teams don't file them for every > library. Packages adding a

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Paul, Am Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 08:54:05AM +0800 schrieb Paul Wise: > During the discussions about NEW on debian-devel in recent times, I had > the idea that instead of the current mechanism of sending REJECT mails, > Debian could switch to using the BTS for most feedback on NEW packages. > >

Re: Advice for package needing stuff installed in /srv (node-shiny-server)

2022-04-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:39:45AM -0700 schrieb Russ Allbery: > > We do try to hold the line on not installing files in /srv and not > requiring any specific layout of /srv because the FHS is pretty explicit > that the choice of directory layout in /srv is entirely up to the local >

Re: Firmware - what are we going to do about it?

2022-04-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:12:19AM -0700 schrieb Russ Allbery: > > I've been a Debian Developer for quite some time and can usually manage to > figure out most tasks like this, and providing separate firmware to the > installer has completely defeated me every time I've tried it. I've spent >

Debian Med video conference tomorrow, Saturday 2022-04-02 18:00 UTC

2022-04-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. We do these conferences twice per month on every 2th and 17th of a month. Usually it takes us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about

Re: How to get rid of unused packages (Was: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0)

2022-03-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Erik, Am Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 08:37:28PM +0100 schrieb Erik Schanze: > Am 16.03.22 um 14:11 schrieb Andreas Tille: > > I'm not sure whether there are any PalmPilot devices out there. At > > Yes, there are still such devices out there. Thanks a lot for your insight. >

Re: How to get rid of unused packages (Was: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0)

2022-03-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Adrian, Am Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 10:48:12PM +0200 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 02:11:09PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > >... > > I'm not sure whether there are any PalmPilot devices out there. At > > least the actual *votes* in popcon[1] is down to zero n

How to get rid of unused packages (Was: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0)

2022-03-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, the MBF announcement inspired me to check some packages that might be relevant for me (and started fixing these). I also found some packages where I was asking myself whether these might be interesting for anyone. Just to give some example (maintainer in CC - Erik, its not specifically

Re: libzstd should not be maintained by Debian Med team - could some core team please take over (Was: libzstd 1.5.2 in Debian)

2022-03-14 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Peter, Am Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 07:40:26PM +0200 schrieb Peter Pentchev: > > there was a (private) request to upgrade libzstd to latest 1.5.2. > > > > I'd like to repeat that I'm really convinced that libzstd should *not* > > be maintained in the Debian Med team but rather some core team in >

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Adrian, Am Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 04:11:02PM +0200 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > > > > I agree that there is no real urgency for immediate action - but this > > seemed to be the case for other bugs on the packages I've touched the > > case as well. > > what time frame do you have in mind when you

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Adrian, Am Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 11:42:42PM +0200 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:25:45PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > I think that we should reduce the number of packages using the 1.0 format, > > as > > (1) format 3.0 has many advantages, as documented in > >

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, no need to file the suggested bug reports against Am Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:25:45PM +0100 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: >pngmeta Fixed and adopted by Debian Phototools team. >pngnq Fixed and adopted by Debian Phototools team. >libimage-metadata-jpeg-perl Fixed and adopted by

Re: NEW processing friction

2022-03-03 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 09:57:26AM -0700 schrieb Sean Whitton: > > PS: I'm currently considering writing up some summary of the bunch > > of threads that was born out of my initial mail. > > > > [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2022/01/msg00226.html > > Assuming I'm not misreading,

Re: NEW processing friction

2022-03-02 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Sean, Am Wed, Mar 02, 2022 at 08:33:35AM -0700 schrieb Sean Whitton: > > I'm sorry to be responding only a month later, but I think there are > some reasons why binNEW is not the worst place to be doing these extra > checks: packages with SONAME bumps are typically C or C++ projects and >

Re: Is removing smell from packages OK? (Was: Why? "Marked for autoremoval on 24 March due to xdelta3: #965883")

2022-02-25 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Paul, Am Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 08:49:00PM +0100 schrieb Paul Gevers: > On 25-02-2022 15:02, Andreas Tille wrote: > > My point was rather that the suggested salvage procedure might not raise > > any signal and I'm pretty sure that I would have lost track on this. > >

Re: Is removing smell from packages OK? (Was: Why? "Marked for autoremoval on 24 March due to xdelta3: #965883")

2022-02-25 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 12:09:26PM +0100 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: > > Please note that "has no RC bugs" is *NOT* the threshold for NMUs, and > certainly not if your approach to doing the NMU involved package > refactoring: When you do an NMU, it is your responsibility to ensure > that your

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