Hurd-related Slashdot article

2000-02-02 Thread Mark Lundeberg
Here it is: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/02/01/1642229mode=thread It's about some people who preinstalls Hurd on systems, but it should be a good discussion base nevertheless. Mark Lundeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pgfn.bc.ca/~aa026/

Install from FreeBSD

2000-02-02 Thread R Joseph Wright
Is it possible to make the hurd filesystem from FreeBSD? I'd like to try out the hurd, but I really don't want to install linux first. Otherwise I may just wait until the installation system is a bit more independent. -- R Joseph Wright *I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote

Re: Install from FreeBSD

2000-02-02 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 05:52:17PM -0800, R Joseph Wright wrote: Is it possible to make the hurd filesystem from FreeBSD? I'd like to try out the hurd, but I really don't want to install linux first. Otherwise I may just wait until the installation system is a bit more independent. If

Re: Install from FreeBSD

2000-02-02 Thread Roland McGrath
Is it possible to make the hurd filesystem from FreeBSD? I'd like to try out the hurd, but I really don't want to install linux first. There are two answers to this, both of which are yes, but you will be the first to test it in recent memory. To start with, Mach should grok the FreeBSD

Re: Install from FreeBSD

2000-02-02 Thread R Joseph Wright
Roland McGrath wrote: To start with, Mach should grok the FreeBSD partitioning ok, so that should not be an issue however you want to do it. I'm not keeping real close track of GRUB, but last I knew it didn't know about the new-fangled freebsd boot-loader configuration crapola, so you might

Re: Install from FreeBSD

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 07:03:10PM -0800, R Joseph Wright was heard to say: Roland McGrath wrote: To start with, Mach should grok the FreeBSD partitioning ok, so that should not be an issue however you want to do it. I'm not keeping real close track of GRUB, but last I knew it didn't

Re: Install from FreeBSD

2000-02-02 Thread Igor Khavkine
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 09:52:58PM -0500, Roland McGrath wrote: Is it possible to make the hurd filesystem from FreeBSD? I'd like to try out the hurd, but I really don't want to install linux first. [...snip...] The other answer is that the Hurd supports the ufs/ffs (BSD) filesystem

Re: User Mode Mach?

2000-02-02 Thread lars brinkhoff
(I found this moth-old thread in kernel cousin.) David Madore wrote: However, what you're interested in, I suppose, is the possibility of running Mach as a user process under Linux. I do not think this is possible (without considerable efforts, involving a major rewrite of Linux, or else

Hurd OO (was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2000-02-02 Thread Kalle Olavi Niemitalo
Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I saw was mostly interface-implementation stuff; for example, defining a filesystem interface and then having servers implement it by filling in the functions. Is inheritence also supported, as in GTK+? Some kind of inheritance is available via

Re: Grub installation guide: [was Re: Install from FreeBSD]

2000-02-02 Thread OKUJI Yoshinori
From: Alexander Kellett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Grub installation guide: [was Re: Install from FreeBSD] Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 04:59:02 + For linux users i'd suggest creating a seperate ext2 /boot partition when installing and then placing stage1, stage2, menu.lst, etc into /boot/grub.

hurd / gnumach sources

2000-02-02 Thread Jens Sander
Hi ! Yesterday I read something on Kernel Cousin about getting the sources of hurd and gnumach. It says, that I have to checkout them via cvs. Is this the only way ? Wouldn't it be good to distribute snapshots via debian-packages which are located in the main/binary-hurd-i386/devel - directory

Re: hurd / gnumach sources

2000-02-02 Thread Tobias Hunger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. I'm new to this list too and actually wanted to lurk a bit before I post, but Jens is absolutly right. I found much more informations on how to get started on the debian homepage then on the official Hurd page. I don't think that this is how

Re: User Mode Mach?

2000-02-02 Thread lars brinkhoff
Mariusz Woloszyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2 Feb 2000, lars brinkhoff wrote: I'm running a project similar to user-mode Linux. But instead of porting Linux to its own system call interface, I'm porting Linux to run on top of a machine abstraction layer. The abstraction layer is

Postgres

2000-02-02 Thread Jens Sander
Hi ! A few days ago I posted this on help-hurd : Yo, I've managed it. I compiled postgresql ! The utils (i.e. psql) seem to work ok. But when I try to start the postmaster (backend) itself, I get the following error message : $ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster FATAL: StreamServerPort:

Re: hurd / gnumach sources

2000-02-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 10:14:21AM +0100, Jens Sander wrote: Yesterday I read something on Kernel Cousin about getting the sources of hurd and gnumach. It says, that I have to checkout them via cvs. Is this the only way ? Well, I think Roland stopped his CVS snapshots. The source

Re: hurd / gnumach sources

2000-02-02 Thread Jens Sander
On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 10:14:21AM +0100, Jens Sander wrote: Yesterday I read something on Kernel Cousin about getting the sources of hurd and gnumach. It says, that I have to checkout them via cvs. Is this the only way ? Well, I think Roland

Re: hurd / gnumach sources

2000-02-02 Thread Jens Sander
main/source/base/hurd_ ok, I found something in frozen/main/source/base Sorry, but I only looked at the sid - tree, because I thought this was the current Hurd - distribution. That's what I was talking about before: things are kind of scattered. YenZi Mit freundlichem Gruss Jens Sander

Re: Grub installation guide: [was Re: Install from FreeBSD]

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 04:59:02AM +, Alexander Kellett was heard to say: Then create a bootdisk with grub 5.93.1 (IIRC) by dd if=image of=/dev/fd0 count=512 Then boot from this disk and type: roughly... root (fd0) install /grub/stage1 d (hd0) /grub/stage2 p

Hurd Install pages

2000-02-02 Thread Muhammad Hussain Yusuf
Re those who asked about install pages. Check out: http://www.memo.cx/gnuhurdguide mirrored at: http://www.crosswinds.net/~gnuhurd and at: http://lufog.dhs.org/hurd http://www.metanet.org/cryptnet/fsp/hurd/guides

Re: hurd / gnumach sources

2000-02-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 02:34:10PM +0100, Jens Sander wrote: main/source/base/hurd_ ok, I found something in frozen/main/source/base Sorry, but I only looked at the sid - tree, because I thought this was the current Hurd - distribution. That's what I was talking about before: things are

watch your addressing folks

2000-02-02 Thread Jim Franklin
Hi folks, There is a bogus address out on the list circuit [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it looks like it is starting to get sent to others outside the list. I think perhaps we should all double check our addressing till this clears so no bogus address for the hurd get out there. Thanks Jim

Re: Grub installation guide: [was Re: Install from FreeBSD]

2000-02-02 Thread Alexander Kellett
Jim Franklin wrote: Hi Alexander here's how to put it in your mbr(actually I believe the 63k reserved right behind the mbr): http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-hurd-0001/msg00151.html have fun Jim Already have done :) I've been using grub for the last month or so, i just

RE: Postgres

2000-02-02 Thread Brent Fulgham
$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster FATAL: StreamServerPort: setsockopt(SO_REUSEADDR) failed: Operation not supported /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster: cannot create UNIX stream port Someone out there who can help ? Hmmm. I was having similar problems with getsockopt/setsockopt related