Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-10 Thread Grant Bowman
* Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020610 03:33]: > On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 03:47:22PM -0700, Grant Bowman wrote: > > * Alfred M. Szmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020609 15:25]: > > > > > > The GNU project is a project to make an free operating system, GNU. > > > This just happens to be GNU/Hurd. > >

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-10 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 03:47:22PM -0700, Grant Bowman wrote: > * Alfred M. Szmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020609 15:25]: > > > > The GNU project is a project to make an free operating system, GNU. > > This just happens to be GNU/Hurd. > > That's a rather obtuse viewpoint even if it is correct and kn

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-10 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
* Grant Bowman writes: * Joshua Judson Rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020609 18:20]: >> On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 02:54:35PM -0700, Grant Bowman wrote: >> > I feel that GNU by itself is too ambiguous. Do you mean the GNU >> > project? GNU system? If system, which one? >> >> Just trying to understand

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-09 Thread Grant Bowman
* Joshua Judson Rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020609 18:20]: > On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 02:54:35PM -0700, Grant Bowman wrote: > > I feel that GNU by itself is too ambiguous. Do you mean the GNU > > project? GNU system? If system, which one? > > Just trying to understand where you're coming from...:

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-09 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 02:54:35PM -0700, Grant Bowman wrote: > > I feel that GNU by itself is too ambiguous. Do you mean the GNU > project? GNU system? If system, which one? Just trying to understand where you're coming from...: Do you also have this problem with other operating systems' nam

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-09 Thread Grant Bowman
* Alfred M. Szmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020609 15:25]: > * Grant Bowman writes: > * Alfred M. Szmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020609 14:09]: > >> The GNU/Hurd _is_ the GNU system. GNU/Hurd means the same thing as > >> GNU, only that GNU/Hurd is more descriptive. > > > > On this particular point (GNU

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-09 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
* Grant Bowman writes: * Alfred M. Szmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020609 14:09]: >> The GNU/Hurd _is_ the GNU system. GNU/Hurd means the same thing as >> GNU, only that GNU/Hurd is more descriptive. > On this particular point (GNU = GNU/Hurd always) I disagee. While you > may feel it's "wrong" ther

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-09 Thread Grant Bowman
* Alfred M. Szmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020609 14:09]: > The GNU/Hurd _is_ the GNU system. GNU/Hurd means the same thing as > GNU, only that GNU/Hurd is more descriptive. On this particular point (GNU = GNU/Hurd always) I disagee. While you may feel it's "wrong" there are other factors to consid

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-08 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 09:16:08AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > What are "Linux systems"? :) I'd say that `Linux systems' are systems that involve Linux; it's not a very descriptive term Some Linux systems are just lobotomised GNUs on top of Linux. Some (most?) are lobotomised GNU

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-08 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Anthony Towns writes: > I'm sorry, but you simply do not get to have it both ways. Either Linux > systems are an implementation of the GNU system that happens to have a > Linux kernel, or "GNU/Linux" is an entirely unjust publicity stunt to > promote a completely separate system. What are "Linux

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-08 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
* Anthony Towns writes: > I'm sorry, but you simply do not get to have it both ways. Either Linux > systems are an implementation of the GNU system that happens to have a > Linux kernel, or "GNU/Linux" is an entirely unjust publicity stunt to > promote a completely separate system. Linux is just a

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-08 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 08:04:47PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I'm sorry, but you simply do not get to have it both ways. Either Linux > systems are an implementation of the GNU system that happens to have a > Linux kernel, or "GNU/Linux" is an entirely unjust publicity stunt to > promote a co

Re: Bug#149345: misc fixes for GNU/Hurd support

2002-06-08 Thread Anthony Towns
Cc'age to the BTS dropped, to debian-hurd added. On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 06:46:48AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > If you refer to GNU/Linux, then let me explain that > the GNU system is based on the Hurd, while > GNU/Linux is based on Linux. I'm sorry, but you simply do not get to have it both wa