"Brent A. Fulgham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is off-topic, but does it annoy anyone else that some medical
> offices have lately taken to using the title "Doctor" as though it
> were a proper name?
I think it's always been around, but it does seem to have become more
frequent recently in
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 08:00:22PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > if you really want "the" to be part of the name "GNU Hurd", it should
> > actually be "The GNU Hurd". Otherwise it's just part of the rest of
> > those sentences. (And if you say the "the" isn't important enough
> > to be
Evandro Fernandes Giovanini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Now the question is: is the kernel "GNU Hurd" or "The GNU Hurd"? ;)
The latter, to amplify the pun. Think of "Hurd" in the way you think
of the ordinary English word "herd". Make sure the sentence works
that way.
Kevin Kreamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That's fine, but there's a difference between an article customarily
> preceding a name, and one that is part of a name. What I'm saying is
> if you really want "the" to be part of the name "GNU Hurd", it should
> actually be "The GNU Hurd". Otherwis
Neal H Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Well, if RMS prefers "Debian GNU/Hurd", then I have no objection to
> > the name.
>
> I am fine with this, however, I would also like a bit of clarification
> on one other permutations. Specifically, is it "GNU Hurd," "the GNU
> Hurd," "GNU/Hurd" o
"Florian Quetting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PS: How about "GNU/Hird of Unix Replacing Deamons of Interfaces
> Representing Depth
> of Unix Replacing Deamons of Interfaces Representing Depth of Unix
> Replacing
> Deamons of Interfaces Representing Depth of Unix Replacing Deamons..." ?
But to
As You can see in most FAQs, the kernel is the Mach.
Evandro Fernandes Giovanini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
28.09.01 00:27
An: "Thomas Bushnell, BSG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kopie: debian-hurd@lists.debian.org
Thema: Re: Debian GNU or Debian GNU/H
On Qui, 2001-09-27 at 04:05, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
>
> Well, if RMS prefers "Debian GNU/Hurd", then I have no objection to
> the name.
>
>
Here's a message found in my Inbox:
On Seg, 2001-09-10 at 01:58, Richard Stallman wrote:
>> Do you think the GNU system running the GNU Hurd kernel s
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 10:23:10PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
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Hello,
If we have to specify the whole thing by
consistency with other names, we'd call
it like this:
Debian GNU/Hurd/Mach
by consistency with Debian GNU/Hurd/Linux
because there are plans to port the Hurd to
Linux (ie. to make Linux work as a microkernel
instead of Mach)
Every part of work des
Hello,
as I understand so far, the Hurd refers to the set of servers, while
GNU/Hurd
refers to the whole Operating System, the kernel and all the GNU-tools.
For
Debian, "Debian GNU/Hurd" sounds correct to me, because the debian-distro
includes not only the Hurd, but also all the GNU-tools.
Flo
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 09:27:52AM +0200, Neal H Walfield wrote:
> > Well, if RMS prefers "Debian GNU/Hurd", then I have no objection to
> > the name.
>
> I am fine with this, however, I would also like a bit of clarification
> on one other permutations. Specifically, is it "GNU Hurd," "the GNU
>
> "DKT" == David K Trudgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DKT> PS I may have been dreaming, but I'm pretty sure I read
DKT> messages on this list some time ago that implied that "Debian
DKT> GNU/Hurd" had already been decided on as the official
DKT> name. Maybe it was just someon
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 02:34:43PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann said:
> What we can can and should do is to make sure that all official documents
> are correct.
I agree with this.
> > release of "GNU Hurd"
> If you look into the Hurd info manual and the README, you will find "the GNU
> Hurd" in all bu
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 04:40:58AM -0500, Kevin Kreamer wrote:
> Somehow I see this going the way of Xwindows[sic]. Specifically, as
> a frequent correction offered by pedants to uninterested newbies.
We should avoid this, as this would be useless. Me too and certainly others
are subsequent to
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 09:56:00AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> The Hurd (or the GNU Hurd if you want to m,ake it clear it is a GNU project
> and part of the GNU system) is the Hurd or the GNU Hurd, but never GNU/Hurd.
> It is never "Hurd", "HURD", "GNU Hurd" or "GNU HURD", and also not "the GN
"Thomas Bushnell, BSG" wrote:
>
> Well, if RMS prefers "Debian GNU/Hurd", then I have no objection to
> the name.
When RMS was in India in July 2001, someone asked the same question. According
to RMS, "GNU Hurd" refers only to the Hurd(not the Operating system), and
endorses that Hurd is a GNU pr
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 09:56:00AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann said:
> The Hurd (or the GNU Hurd if you want to m,ake it clear it is a GNU project
> and part of the GNU system) is the Hurd or the GNU Hurd, but never GNU/Hurd.
> It is never "Hurd", "HURD", "GNU Hurd" or "GNU HURD", and also not "the GNU
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 09:56:00AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> You can say Debian GNU/Linux
> when referring to the GNU/Hurd system as shipped by Debian.
Hmmm...
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 09:27:52AM +0200, Neal H Walfield wrote:
> > Well, if RMS prefers "Debian GNU/Hurd", then I have no objection to
> > the name.
>
> I am fine with this, however, I would also like a bit of clarification
> on one other permutations. Specifically, is it "GNU Hurd," "the GNU
>
> Well, if RMS prefers "Debian GNU/Hurd", then I have no objection to
> the name.
I am fine with this, however, I would also like a bit of clarification
on one other permutations. Specifically, is it "GNU Hurd," "the GNU
Hurd," "GNU/Hurd" or "the GNU/Hurd"? The second is used in the README
file.
Well, if RMS prefers "Debian GNU/Hurd", then I have no objection to
the name.
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, David K. Trudgett wrote:
> > I think "Debian GNU/Hurd" ought to be the canonical name. Yes, we
> > are the One True GNU System, blah blah blah. But people will be
> > justifiably confused if "Hurd" does not appear in the usual short
> > tital. And if the other system is pro
On Wednesday 2001-09-26 at 22:27:52 -0400, Roland McGrath wrote:
> > On 26 Sep 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > > Debian GNU
> > > Hurd i386 binary
> > > Version mumbledeefrotz
> > >
> > > might be my favorite version, but I'm interested in what others
> > > think.
>
> I think "Debian GNU/H
> On 26 Sep 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > Debian GNU
> > Hurd i386 binary
> > Version mumbledeefrotz
> >
> > might be my favorite version, but I'm interested in what others think.
I think "Debian GNU/Hurd" ought to be the canonical name. Yes, we are the
One True GNU System, blah blah bla
On 26 Sep 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Are we allowed a whole phrase? More than one line?
>
> Debian GNU
> Hurd i386 binary
> Version mumbledeefrotz
>
> might be my favorite version, but I'm interested in what others think.
>
Make up your minds. I am working on the woody boot-floppies
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 05:43:07PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> I don't think there is any inherent need to have "Hurd" on the CDs
> except for the sake of clarity.
>
> The correct name of the system is GNU, and Debian has put it together,
> so "Debian GNU" makes the most sense to me.
>
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I understand it as "the Debian release of the GNU operating system",
> which seems logical. GNU software packaged and distributed by
> Debian.
This is correct.
> NOTE: I have a lot of respect to Hurd hackers and don't pretend to
> offend them, this is
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 04:10:16PM -0300, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini wrote:
> Shouldn't Debian GNU/Hurd be called Debian GNU?
I am not even sure we call that thing we are doing "Debian GNU/Hurd".
I don't think we have an official name for it. But Debian GNU/Hurd is used
at the web pages and many
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 03:10, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini wrote:
> Shouldn't Debian GNU/Hurd be called Debian GNU?
Have I recently fallen through a small hole in the 4D topography of space or
did we have this discussion a few months back?
Severl varients were suggested from strait GNU, to GNU/HURD a
On 08 Sep 2001 20:10:49 -0300, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> But that's not important. It would be important if people were not
> giving credit where it's due, like in the GNU/Linux case.
It does actually happen. The media just ignores GNU and calls it
"The Hurd oper
On 08 Sep 2001 16:10:16 -0300, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Shouldn't Debian GNU/Hurd be called Debian GNU?
Indeed, the Hurd is a part of GNU. Some references...
In http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ you can read:
"The Hurd is part of the GNU, which is a compl
On S_, 2001-09-08 at 16:42, Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 04:10:16PM -0300, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini wrote:
> > Shouldn't Debian GNU/Hurd be called Debian GNU?
>
> Why?
>
The reason the FSF defends the use of the name GNU/Linux instead of
Linux is:
"There really i
Hi!
Evandro Fernandes Giovanini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shouldn't Debian GNU/Hurd be called Debian GNU?
I don't think so; in my understanding, GNU is the name for a system that
can be used with different kernels, including Linux and Hurd (which is
not really a kernel, but a replacement for a
On 08 Sep 2001 16:10:16 -0300, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Shouldn't Debian GNU/Hurd be called Debian GNU?
Indeed, the Hurd is a part of GNU. Some references...
In http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ you can read:
"The Hurd is part of the GNU, which is a compl
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 04:10:16PM -0300, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini wrote:
> Shouldn't Debian GNU/Hurd be called Debian GNU?
Why?
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