Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 06:08:16PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On 19.05.2012 19:04, Adam D. Barratt wrote: I'm not sure we've ever released with an architecture which was in either broken or fucked, but hopefully someone will correct me if I'm mistaken on that. Anyone? :-) Opinions as

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Neil McGovern, le Wed 30 May 2012 09:53:53 +0100, a écrit : In order to release hurd, even as a tech preview, we need hurd in testing and users actually testing it. This is a problem at this stage because: * there isn't a functional D-I port yet ?? It is functional. The last bug I was seeing,

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-30 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 09:53 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 06:08:16PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On 19.05.2012 19:04, Adam D. Barratt wrote: I'm not sure we've ever released with an architecture which was in either broken or fucked, but hopefully someone will correct

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le Wed 30 May 2012 11:14:24 +0200, a écrit : * its archive coverage is far lower than required What is required, currently the percentage is 77%. No, it is rather 76%. How large was it when kFreeBSD was released as a tech preview in Squeeze. Simple, see the graph at that

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-30 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 11:23 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Svante Signell, le Wed 30 May 2012 11:14:24 +0200, a écrit : * its archive coverage is far lower than required What is required, currently the percentage is 77%. No, it is rather 76%. It would be interesting to know how large

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le Wed 30 May 2012 11:31:24 +0200, a écrit : On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 11:23 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Svante Signell, le Wed 30 May 2012 11:14:24 +0200, a écrit : * its archive coverage is far lower than required What is required, currently the percentage is 77%.

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-30 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 11:34 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Svante Signell, le Wed 30 May 2012 11:31:24 +0200, a écrit : On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 11:23 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Svante Signell, le Wed 30 May 2012 11:14:24 +0200, a écrit : * its archive coverage is far lower than required

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adam D. Barratt, le Sat 19 May 2012 19:04:40 +0100, a écrit : I'm not sure we've ever released with an architecture which was in either broken or fucked, but hopefully someone will correct me if I'm mistaken on that. We can as well not aim at an official release, and make an unofficial

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Dropping the d-r Cc, they don't really care. Svante Signell, le Wed 30 May 2012 11:42:57 +0200, a écrit : On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 11:34 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Since there are about 1 source packages, it's almost exactly 0.01% per fixed package (plus reverse dependencies). The

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-30 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 30/05/12 10:54, Samuel Thibault wrote: We can as well not aim at an official release, and make an unofficial release. In my opinion that'd be already great. Sounds good, I'd love for hurd-i386 to be able to go through the motions of a release even if it's not part of the official one.

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ansgar Burchardt, le Mon 28 May 2012 13:10:32 +0200, a écrit : Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org writes: - We are rebuiding the archive without debian-ports, it should be over before the end of May. debian-ports now only contains packages helpful for users; it is no longer used by the

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-28 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org writes: - We are rebuiding the archive without debian-ports, it should be over before the end of May. debian-ports now only contains packages helpful for users; it is no longer used by the buildds since the archive rebuild started. I keep track of

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-24 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 19.05.2012 19:04, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Very quickly following up on a possible nomenclature issue and a couple of other things. On Sat, 2012-05-19 at 17:29 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: - We of course aim at tech preview for wheezy only, not a full release. Our goal is to establish a

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-24 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 18:08 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On 19.05.2012 19:04, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Very quickly following up on a possible nomenclature issue and a couple of other things. On Sat, 2012-05-19 at 17:29 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: - We of course aim at tech preview

Re: [Fwd: Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy]

2012-05-24 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 19:35 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Looks like group reply in my mailer means reply only to the mailing list I have defined a filter for? Anyway, forwarding to debian-release too. *checks headers* You wanted reply all, predictably enough. Which means this is now

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Samuel, On Samstag, 19. Mai 2012, Samuel Thibault wrote: Concerning hardware support, Linux 2.6.32 network drivers are now included and will be used by default in the coming days. That provides a fairly good coverage of not too-new hardware. We are working on integrating the linux

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Levsen, le Mon 21 May 2012 10:44:39 +0200, a écrit : Holger, I am excited to see the hurd come alive, finally! but... A lot of people are excited, yes. Extremely few have to to contribute. The result is not surprising: we've spent the extremely little time we have on making it at

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Mon 21 May 2012 10:49:45 +0200, a écrit : Holger Levsen, le Mon 21 May 2012 10:44:39 +0200, a écrit : Holger, I am excited to see the hurd come alive, finally! but... A lot of people are excited, yes. Extremely few have to to contribute.

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-21 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 10:44 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Samuel, ... Which lack, more precisely? no usb = no keyboard (+other things, obviously) no sata = pretty bad in 2012 no drm xorg drivers + no sound = also pretty bad. Well, currently GNU/Hurd works OK in a VM, like kvm. A lot of

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le Mon 21 May 2012 11:25:30 +0200, a écrit : On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 10:44 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Which lack, more precisely? no usb = no keyboard (+other things, obviously) no sata = pretty bad in 2012 no drm xorg drivers + no sound = also pretty bad. Well,

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-20 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 08:20:13PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: For security updates (i.e. after release), we need two DSAed buildds. Having DSAed buildds allows also to do autosigning, which shortens the time span for getting builds into the archive. This isn't strictly required, but not doing

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Adam D. Barratt, le Wed 16 May 2012 13:19:46 +0100, a écrit : Comments on / additions and corrections to the content of http://release.debian.org/wheezy/arch_qualify.html would be appreciated, as would any other information you think is relevant to helping us determine hurd-i386's

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
(Ewww, long lines) Please keep in mind I'm quite new in the release team, so I'll just reply on some points that stroke me. I don't speak for the team as a whole. Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org (19/05/2012): - We of course aim at tech preview for wheezy only, not a full release. Our goal

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-19 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Hi, Very quickly following up on a possible nomenclature issue and a couple of other things. On Sat, 2012-05-19 at 17:29 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: - We of course aim at tech preview for wheezy only, not a full release. Our goal is to establish a testing distribution for wheezy which does

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Adam D. Barratt (a...@adam-barratt.org.uk) [120519 20:06]: On Sat, 2012-05-19 at 17:29 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: - About buildd-dsa, we are fine with a DSA'd buildd, if DSA is happy to maintain it, they will however probably have to learn a few Hurd things? We don't know to what

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le Sat 19 May 2012 19:41:56 +0200, a écrit : (Ewww, long lines) Oops, sorry, I forgot to reindent after import from the pad. Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org (19/05/2012): - We of course aim at tech preview for wheezy only, not a full release. Our goal is to

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-19 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.05.2012 23:59, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le Sat 19 May 2012 19:41:56 +0200, a écrit : (Ewww, long lines) Oops, sorry, I forgot to reindent after import from the pad. Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org (19/05/2012): - We of course aim at tech preview for

Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
Hi everybody, On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 01:19:46PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: With the sound of the ever approaching freeze ringing loudly in our ears, we're (somewhat belatedly) looking at finalising the list of release architectures for the Wheezy release. Comments on / additions and