Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Hi, both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem? I need to check if the route to this router is alive - namely if the router is up. Can I trick this into working by choosing a TOS for ping manually?

Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:05, Stefan Neufeind wrote: both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem? Your message was not clear, but it seems that you can see the router on a traceroute but can't ping it.

Re: loadbalancing

2003-06-17 Thread Robert Lazzurs
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 11:24, Joost Veldkamp wrote: Hi, We're using old cisco Localdirectors for loadbalancing between webservers. These need to be replaced by something else, because they are EOL. Are there software packages that can do the same as the localdirector, with failover

Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 at 10:15:49, Russell Coker wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:05, Stefan Neufeind wrote: both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem? Your message was not clear, but it seems that

Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Tomàs Núñez Lirola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi My boss is forcing me to install Red Hat. I am the sysad, and I personally prefer Debian, but it don't seem to be a reason for him. He worries about Oracle not giving support to Debian users. But we don't have any Oracle server, he worries for

Re: PHP 4.2.3 Woody backport?

2003-06-17 Thread Thomas Kirk
Hep On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:26:27AM +0100, Fred Clausen wrote: I wish to run php4.2.3 on a Debian woody machine without having to upgrade the whole system to unstable. Also I wish to avoid upgrading libc and/or any other sytem libraries as would happen with version pinning. Are there

Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:27, Stefan Neufeind wrote: What I'm looking for is a possibility to see if this router (that denies ping- packets) is still available? I have Nagios running and normally it monitors hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if this router on the way to a

Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Rico -mc- Gloeckner
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:27:16PM +0200, Stefan Neufeind wrote: hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if this router on the way to a server is reachable. I want to test the whole path to see where an error occured. Well, is it possible to simulate traceroute-like

Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager on Debian?

2003-06-17 Thread Sonny Kupka
Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager (http://www.etinc.com/index.php?page=bwmgr.htm) on a Debian system? It's not one of the supported distributions and I just wondered if I could get by with the software version or if I should just buy one of the appliances they offer. Thanks! --- Sonny

Re: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:45:06PM +0200, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote: Hi My boss is forcing me to install Red Hat. I am the sysad, and I personally prefer Debian, but it don't seem to be a reason for him. He worries about Oracle not giving support to Debian users. But we don't have any

Exim from source on woody

2003-06-17 Thread Craig
Hi Guys How can I run a compiled version of exim4 on woody ? ..Craig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

IP over IP: moving host

2003-06-17 Thread Leonardo Boselli
We have some administrative [accounting] applications that can be called only by a certain user, with a certain machine, and a certain IP. For user identification [password] and machine id [a portable] there are no problems ... (the portable has an OS that does not allow ipsec) We wish the user

RE: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev
hi just a small draft to start if you have web server installed :) #!/usr/bin/perl # my $host=http://www.myhost.net;; my $gsm='12343'; my $emaildomain='partner-site.com'; my $emailbox='emergency'; my $gsm_carrier='your_mobile_suffix.com';

Re: Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager on Debian?

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:15, Sonny Kupka wrote: Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager (http://www.etinc.com/index.php?page=bwmgr.htm) on a Debian system? It's not one of the supported distributions and I just wondered if I could get by with the software version or if I should just buy one of

Re: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:45, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote: Oracle not giving support to Debian users. But we don't have any Oracle server, he worries for the future. Oracle does not support all versions of Red Hat, and will not continue to support the currently supported versions for all time. If

Re: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Dan MacNeil
I've spent time in both redhat debian (though mostly in debian) apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade -s ; apt-get upgrade # if OK ...is zero $ up2date # $50 per year per machine. # fewer built in packages If $ is a concern to your boss, then postgres is probably the equal

RE: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Jones, Steven
I too have this problem with my work, they want Red Hat only, its policy. The fact that my ex-boss was highly impressed with the apt-get update procedure didn't seem to impress the team leader. I don't think Oracle is supported on standard Red hat, only the AS one, so he's up for a nice fat fee

Re: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:45:06PM +0200, Tom?s N??ez Lirola wrote: My boss is forcing me to install Red Hat. I am the sysad, and I personally prefer Debian, but it don't seem to be a reason for him. He worries about Oracle not giving support to Debian users. But we don't have any Oracle

RE: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread David Lawn
While we're sort of on the topic of Database management systems on Debian, what have people's experiences with sapdb been like? As from what I understand sapdb is direct competition for oracle and is free. -Original Message- From: Craig Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

RE: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Jones, Steven
Sap is moving to mysql, so I cant see any advantage in using SAP. regards Thing -Original Message- From: David Lawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat While we're sort

Re: Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager on Debian?

2003-06-17 Thread Theodore Knab
We have the Etinc bandwidth manager machine running on FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE. Although it is not Debian, it seems pretty good turnkey device to limit the p2p stuff. We purchased it as turnkey machine. It functions primarily use as bandwidth shapper. I am also using it as a firewall. It sits

Re: Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager on Debian?

2003-06-17 Thread John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
I dont work for this company but saw it demo'ed once and it was neat, and the price is right. The interface is really neat, and would allow you to bill as well. http://www.ydi.com/products/bcu.php On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 10:15:44PM -0400, Theodore Knab wrote: We have the Etinc bandwidth

Re: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 01:36:40PM +1200, Jones, Steven wrote: Sap is moving to mysql, so I cant see any advantage in using SAP. I think that's an over-simplified view of the situation. The press release was vague, but my understanding is that SAP is providing technology and funding to MySQL.

Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Hi, both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem? I need to check if the route to this router is alive - namely if the router is up. Can I trick this into working by choosing a TOS for ping manually?

Re: loadbalancing

2003-06-17 Thread Robert Lazzurs
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 11:24, Joost Veldkamp wrote: Hi, We're using old cisco Localdirectors for loadbalancing between webservers. These need to be replaced by something else, because they are EOL. Are there software packages that can do the same as the localdirector, with failover

PHP 4.2.3 Woody backport?

2003-06-17 Thread Fred Clausen
Hi All, I wish to run php4.2.3 on a Debian woody machine without having to upgrade the whole system to unstable. Also I wish to avoid upgrading libc and/or any other sytem libraries as would happen with version pinning. Are there any php 4.2.3 Woody packages available? Or perhaps I guide so

Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 at 10:15:49, Russell Coker wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:05, Stefan Neufeind wrote: both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem? Your message was not clear, but it seems that

Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Tomàs Núñez Lirola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi My boss is forcing me to install Red Hat. I am the sysad, and I personally prefer Debian, but it don't seem to be a reason for him. He worries about Oracle not giving support to Debian users. But we don't have any Oracle server, he worries for

Re: PHP 4.2.3 Woody backport?

2003-06-17 Thread Thomas Kirk
Hep On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:26:27AM +0100, Fred Clausen wrote: I wish to run php4.2.3 on a Debian woody machine without having to upgrade the whole system to unstable. Also I wish to avoid upgrading libc and/or any other sytem libraries as would happen with version pinning. Are there

Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:27, Stefan Neufeind wrote: What I'm looking for is a possibility to see if this router (that denies ping- packets) is still available? I have Nagios running and normally it monitors hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if this router on the way to a

Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Rico -mc- Gloeckner
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:27:16PM +0200, Stefan Neufeind wrote: hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if this router on the way to a server is reachable. I want to test the whole path to see where an error occured. Well, is it possible to simulate traceroute-like

Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager on Debian?

2003-06-17 Thread Sonny Kupka
Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager (http://www.etinc.com/index.php?page=bwmgr.htm) on a Debian system? It's not one of the supported distributions and I just wondered if I could get by with the software version or if I should just buy one of the appliances they offer. Thanks! --- Sonny

Re: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:45:06PM +0200, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote: Hi My boss is forcing me to install Red Hat. I am the sysad, and I personally prefer Debian, but it don't seem to be a reason for him. He worries about Oracle not giving support to Debian users. But we don't have any

Exim from source on woody

2003-06-17 Thread Craig
Hi Guys How can I run a compiled version of exim4 on woody ? ..Craig

IP over IP: moving host

2003-06-17 Thread Leonardo Boselli
We have some administrative [accounting] applications that can be called only by a certain user, with a certain machine, and a certain IP. For user identification [password] and machine id [a portable] there are no problems ... (the portable has an OS that does not allow ipsec) We wish the user

RE: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev
hi just a small draft to start if you have web server installed :) #!/usr/bin/perl # my $host=http://www.myhost.net;; my $gsm='12343'; my $emaildomain='partner-site.com'; my $emailbox='emergency'; my $gsm_carrier='your_mobile_suffix.com';

Re: Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager on Debian?

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:15, Sonny Kupka wrote: Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager (http://www.etinc.com/index.php?page=bwmgr.htm) on a Debian system? It's not one of the supported distributions and I just wondered if I could get by with the software version or if I should just buy one of

Re: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:45, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote: Oracle not giving support to Debian users. But we don't have any Oracle server, he worries for the future. Oracle does not support all versions of Red Hat, and will not continue to support the currently supported versions for all time. If

Re: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Dan MacNeil
I've spent time in both redhat debian (though mostly in debian) apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade -s ; apt-get upgrade # if OK ...is zero $ up2date # $50 per year per machine. # fewer built in packages If $ is a concern to your boss, then postgres is probably the equal

RE: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Jones, Steven
I too have this problem with my work, they want Red Hat only, its policy. The fact that my ex-boss was highly impressed with the apt-get update procedure didn't seem to impress the team leader. I don't think Oracle is supported on standard Red hat, only the AS one, so he's up for a nice fat fee

Re: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:45:06PM +0200, Tom?s N??ez Lirola wrote: My boss is forcing me to install Red Hat. I am the sysad, and I personally prefer Debian, but it don't seem to be a reason for him. He worries about Oracle not giving support to Debian users. But we don't have any Oracle

RE: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread David Lawn
While we're sort of on the topic of Database management systems on Debian, what have people's experiences with sapdb been like? As from what I understand sapdb is direct competition for oracle and is free. -Original Message- From: Craig Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

RE: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat

2003-06-17 Thread Jones, Steven
Sap is moving to mysql, so I cant see any advantage in using SAP. regards Thing -Original Message- From: David Lawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 12:51 PM To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: Slightly OT: They're forcing me to install Red Hat While

Re: Has anyone used etinc bandwidth manager on Debian?

2003-06-17 Thread Theodore Knab
We have the Etinc bandwidth manager machine running on FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE. Although it is not Debian, it seems pretty good turnkey device to limit the p2p stuff. We purchased it as turnkey machine. It functions primarily use as bandwidth shapper. I am also using it as a firewall. It sits