limiting port 25 to an IP

2004-10-22 Thread W.D.McKinney
We run Debian testing on some servers and I have this question. Is it possible to keep port 25 down to a single IP ? Thanks, Dee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: limiting port 25 to an IP

2004-10-22 Thread Marcin Sochacki
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 02:11:01PM -0800, W.D.McKinney wrote: We run Debian testing on some servers and I have this question. Is it possible to keep port 25 down to a single IP ? Use iptables. Wanted -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: limiting port 25 to an IP

2004-10-22 Thread Ward Vandewege
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:53:29AM +0200, Marcin Sochacki wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 02:11:01PM -0800, W.D.McKinney wrote: We run Debian testing on some servers and I have this question. Is it possible to keep port 25 down to a single IP ? Use iptables. In Exim(4), add something

Re: limiting port 25 to an IP

2004-10-22 Thread W.D.McKinney
On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 14:53, Marcin Sochacki wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 02:11:01PM -0800, W.D.McKinney wrote: We run Debian testing on some servers and I have this question. Is it possible to keep port 25 down to a single IP ? Use iptables. Wanted Do you know of any examples ?

Re: Mail Delivery (failure jcooper@planetz.com)

2004-10-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to the unprecedented amount of spam I've been receiving, I'm forced to change my email address yet again. My new address is johnc at planetz.com. Please don't be stupid. Such auto-responders will get you added to all the spam lists

Re: why multicasting is working?

2004-10-21 Thread Oleg Butorin
Forgot to say about my router. My router is in the same network with the other computers, it is working only as firewall to the internet. So for the multicasting inside my network this is the usual workstation. Mike Mestnik wrote: --- Oleg Butorin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Mestnik wrote:

apt-get update

2004-10-21 Thread Johnno
Hello All, When I do a apt-get update I get this error: Fetched 6847kB in 33s (203kB/s) Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing lg-issue29 (NewFileVer1) E: Problem with MergeList

Re: apt-get update

2004-10-21 Thread Steve Kemp
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 10:01:05PM +1300, Johnno wrote: Hello All, When I do a apt-get update I get this error: Fetched 6847kB in 33s (203kB/s) Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing lg-issue29 (NewFileVer1) E: Problem with

Re: mrtg cfgmaker question

2004-10-21 Thread Steve Haavik
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Ben Vinger wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:48:28 +0100 (BST) From: Ben Vinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mrtg cfgmaker question Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 04:48:40 -0500 (CDT) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi I'm using the following to

mrtg cfgmaker question

2004-10-20 Thread Ben Vinger
Hi I'm using the following to create an mrtg.cfg: cfgmaker --snmp-options=::5:3:1:3 public@myip --output mrtg.cfg The Cisco website states that the Cisco 831 uses SNMP v3, which is the last number under snmp-options above. But if I run this, it won't communicate, giving these errors: SNMP

Re: why multicasting is working?

2004-10-20 Thread Oleg Butorin
Mike Mestnik wrote: I'm not an expert on MC, but I'd think 224.0.0.1 would be routed to your default route. Then the pkt would get multicasted and you would receve multiple responces. Yes, but I received responces from the systems where multicasting disabled in the kernel.

Re: why multicasting is working?

2004-10-20 Thread Mike Mestnik
--- Oleg Butorin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Mestnik wrote: I'm not an expert on MC, but I'd think 224.0.0.1 would be routed to your default route. Then the pkt would get multicasted and you would receve multiple responces. Yes, but I received responces

Re: why multicasting is working?

2004-10-20 Thread Oleg Butorin
Please read Multicast-HOWTO.gz! Especially: ... 1.1. What is Multicast. Multicast is... a need. Well, at least in some scenarios. If you have information (a lot of information, usually) that should be transmitted to various (but usually not all) hosts over an internet, then Multicast is the

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-19 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:17, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 09:41:43PM +1000, a message of 39 lines which said: Getting servers that each have 200G or 300G of storage is easy. For a mail server, it means either 1G per user (like gmail gives you) for only

managing user/group Quotas (ext3 - XFS filesystem)

2004-10-19 Thread Robert Cates
Hi, I'm having trouble understanding setting up and managing quotas on an ext3/XFS filesystem. Can anybody lead me to good detailed documentation on using/managing quotas? The man pages just aren't helping me much. I'm wanting to manage user and/or group quotas on my ext3 filesystem, and I

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 05:04:16PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 28 lines which said: Debian does not need the storage for developers to store their mail on the project's servers. Sorry, wrong thread. The thread I launched on big mail systems have nothing to do

Re: Mount options for Optimizing ext2/ext3 performance with Maildir's

2004-10-19 Thread Ian Forbes
On Monday 18 October 2004 22:10, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: There were some useful comments about optimizing ext3 posted in response to his original post. Some things that were mentioned: - use htree I have been looking at this. Where can I find documentation for htree, index and directory

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-19 Thread Aurlien Beaujean
Le mardi 19 octobre 2004 à 17:18, Russell Coker écrivait: A gmail service is entirely different to an ISP mail server. The common use of an ISP mail server is to allow download and delete via pop. This thread is a « proposal for a webmail service » so 1Go should be appropriate and in the wind

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 11:18:55PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 19 lines which said: I'm currently writing a proposal for a webmail service for, say, 50 000 to 500 000 users. I'm looking for description of existing big mail systems, using technologies like

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-19 Thread Hilko Bengen
Francesco P. Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The main purpose is identify periodically boxes on an internal private network which cause very high traffic, due to worms, virus and so. A per-IP simple report a la mrtg could be nice. plug mode=shameless My ulog-acctd, installed on the border

Re: why multicasting is working?

2004-10-19 Thread Mike Mestnik
--- Oleg Butorin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Mestnik wrote: I'm not an expert on MC, but I'd think 224.0.0.1 would be routed to your default route. Then the pkt would get multicasted and you would receve multiple responces. Yes, but I received responces from the systems where

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 06:13:03PM +0200, Hilko Bengen wrote: Francesco P. Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The main purpose is identify periodically boxes on an internal private network which cause very high traffic, due to worms, virus and so. A per-IP simple report a la mrtg could

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-19 Thread Steve Kemp
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 06:18:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: btw, there are also two libpcap-based netflow capturers already debianised - a netfilter/ulog alternative would be a good thing. fprobe - exports NetFlow V5 datagrams to a remote collector pmacct - promiscuous mode traffic

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 09:31:24PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 06:18:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: btw, there are also two libpcap-based netflow capturers already debianised - a netfilter/ulog alternative would be a good thing. fprobe - exports NetFlow V5

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-19 Thread Hilko Bengen
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With a little know-how in shell-scripting, it should be trivial to generate statistics and graphs from its output. if you modified it to produce Netflow output (same as cisco and other routers), then there's a good range of tools which already exist

Re: why multicasting is working?

2004-10-18 Thread Oleg Butorin
Theodore Knab wrote: Actually, this set of find commands will work better: find /proc/net -name '*cast* -print -exec cat {} ';' find /proc/sys -name '*cast* -print -exec cat {} ';' Thank you for the answer. I didn't find anything. And the question is: why it is working, when it is disabled in the

Re: why multicasting is working?

2004-10-18 Thread Oleg Butorin
Mike Mestnik wrote: I'm not an expert on MC, but I'd think 224.0.0.1 would be routed to your default route. Then the pkt would get multicasted and you would receve multiple responces. Yes, but I received responces from the systems where multicasting disabled in the kernel. IIRC kernel level

Woody and Java with lots of threads

2004-10-18 Thread andrew
Dear list, Has anyone managed to get java 1.4.2 running with 1100 + threads on Woody (with 2.4.25smp)? I currently have the following ulimits set... :~$ ulimit -a core file size(blocks, -c) 0 data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited file size (blocks, -f) unlimited max

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-18 Thread Aurlien Beaujean
Le samedi 16 octobre 2004 à 21:46, Russell Coker écrivait: Is there any way to optimise PHP for speed? Maybe PHP5 is worth trying? We uses php/zend mmcache. With it, we freed 50% of CPU of the machines which run IMP. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-18 Thread Aurlien Beaujean
Le vendredi 15 octobre 2004 à 13:13, Paul Dwerryhouse écrivait: We don't use NFS. Only the LDAP servers are using 2.6.x - everything else is still on 2.4. So mails are delivered to your backend mailstores by smtp ou lmtp ? No NFS means also that pop/imap daemons are running on the backend

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 09:41:43PM +1000, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 39 lines which said: Getting servers that each have 200G or 300G of storage is easy. For a mail server, it means either 1G per user (like gmail gives you) for only 300 users or 10M (much less than

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 04:17:14PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 09:41:43PM +1000, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 39 lines which said: Getting servers that each have 200G or 300G of storage is easy. For a mail server, it means either 1G

OT: Experiences with SATA, Intel ICH5, Kernel 2.6

2004-10-18 Thread Henrik Heil
Hello everybody, we are currently running a web- and mailserver with a Tyan S5102G3NR Board, Linux-2.6.8.1(kernel.org) and Debian Woody. The disks are 2x 36 Gb, U-320 SCSI, RAID 1 (ICP-Vortex GDT8114RZ). We now need additional disks in this server, but not at the same speed (not SCSI), not

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-18 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Getting servers that each have 200G or 300G of storage is easy. For a mail server, it means either 1G per user (like gmail gives you) for only 300 users or 10M (much less than hotmail) for 30 000 users. It is probably not enough for a Hotmail-like

Mount options for Optimizing ext2/ext3 performance with Maildir's

2004-10-18 Thread Ian Forbes
Hi I have a mailserver with load average sitting somewhere between 1 and 2. It is running exim serving a couple of thousand Maildir mailboxes and also has a bunch of antivirus / antispam programs running on it. It has a pair of ide hard drives running mirrored, raid1. I really do not want to

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 05:44:08PM +0200, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: ## Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Debian does not need the storage for developers to store their mail on the project's servers. This thread is not about Debian's mail service. Sorry, I was indeed confused. --

Re: Mount options for Optimizing ext2/ext3 performance with Maildir's

2004-10-18 Thread maarten
On Monday 18 October 2004 18:15, Ian Forbes wrote: I have a mailserver with load average sitting somewhere between 1 and 2. It is running exim serving a couple of thousand Maildir mailboxes and also has a bunch of antivirus / antispam programs running on it. It has a pair of ide hard drives

Re: Mount options for Optimizing ext2/ext3 performance with Maildir's

2004-10-18 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Monday 18 October 2004 16:15, Ian Forbes wrote: What mount options give the best performance, noatime data=journal ? The fellow that runs KDE's news site recently did some investigation of speed / disk usage for Zope's object database vs. ext3. He figured the hierarchical nature of the

Re: Runing Bind under User Bind

2004-10-18 Thread Nate Campi
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 04:32:04AM +0200, Ulf Volmer wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 02:46:07PM +1300, Johnno wrote: I am trying to get named to work under the user bind but I keep on getting errors: Oct 18 14:39:34 woody named[1117]: couldn't open pid file '/var/run/named.pid':

SV: Runing Bind under User Bind

2004-10-18 Thread Christofer Algotsson
Your user bind would write a file in /var/run, but it's not allowed. I ran BIND this way, I seem to recall chown'ing that pid file once and never having a problem with it again for the lifetime of the box. I hope I don't get heaps of flames for posting this micro-howto, but I hope it helps.

Increased performance and vitality

2004-10-18 Thread scarlet gordon
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Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:00, Marcin Owsiany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If one machine has a probability of failure of 0.1 over a particular time period then the probability of at least one machine failing if there are two servers in the cluster over that same time period is 1-0.9*0.9 == 0.19.

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.17.1622 +0200]: Are you going to be involved in doing the work? I volunteer to join the postmaster team and help out. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.17.1626 +0200]: I volunteer to join the postmaster team and help out. Though my experience is really 98% postfix, 1.5% qmail, 0.4% MDaemon, and 0.1% Exchange. So absolutely no exim in there. I've had my fair share with single setuid

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-17 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, martin f krafft said: also sprach Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.17.1622 +0200]: Are you going to be involved in doing the work? I volunteer to join the postmaster team and help out. /AOL. My experience is mostly exim3 4, and sendmail. --

Runing Bind under User Bind

2004-10-17 Thread Johnno
Hello Hello, I am trying to get named to work under the user bind but I keep on getting errors: Oct 18 14:39:34 woody named[1115]: starting BIND 9.2.1 -u bind Oct 18 14:39:34 woody named[1115]: using 1 CPU Oct 18 14:39:34 woody named[1117]: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf' Oct

Re: Runing Bind under User Bind

2004-10-17 Thread Ulf Volmer
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 02:46:07PM +1300, Johnno wrote: I am trying to get named to work under the user bind but I keep on getting errors: Oct 18 14:39:34 woody named[1117]: couldn't open pid file '/var/run/named.pid': Permission denied Oct 18 14:39:34 woody named[1117]: exiting (due to

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:33, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:19, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Increasing the number of machines increases the probability of one machine failing for any given time period. Also it makes it more difficult to debug

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 02:02, Christoph Moench-Tegeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): So, now we would like Russel to explain why he does not like SAN. He probably doesn't advocate using SAN instead of local disks if you do not have a good

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:08, Paul Dwerryhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 06:56:21PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: The machines were all running 2.4.2x last time I was there, but they may be moving to 2.6.x now. All the stores, relays and proxies are still on 2.4.x, but the

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-16 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 09:29:32PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:33, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:19, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Increasing the number of machines increases the probability of one machine failing for any

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-16 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 09:41:43PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: There's less cables for idiots to trip over or otherwise break (don't ask), I dare to ask :-) Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://marcin.owsiany.pl/ GnuPG: 1024D/60F41216 FE67 DA2D 0ACA FC5E 3F75 D6F6

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, Russell Coker wrote: Getting servers that each have 200G or 300G of storage is easy. Local Make it a few TBs... though). Having multiple back-end servers with local disks reduces the risks (IMHO). There's less cables for idiots to trip over or otherwise break It

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:29:32 +1000, Russell wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:33, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:19, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Increasing the number of machines increases the probability of one

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:00:57 +0200, Marcin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 09:29:32PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:33, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:19, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Increasing

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Dave Watkins wrote: The reason i2c won't work on these boards is because they use IPMI rather than i2c and have a BMC on them which does much more in the way of management than desktop type boards Well, if it is anything like SE750x boards, you need to first setup the

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-15 Thread Dave Watkins
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Dave Watkins wrote: The reason i2c won't work on these boards is because they use IPMI rather than i2c and have a BMC on them which does much more in the way of management than desktop type boards Well, if it is anything like

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:35, Lucas Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as the machine is fixed within four days of a problem we don't need more than one. Email can be delayed, it's something you have to get used to. Machines are cheap enough, wouldn't it be reasonable to throw in

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:35, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.14.1525 +0200]: Or we can do it in two, with capacity to spare AND no downtime. I would definitely vote for two systems, but for high-availability, not

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-15 Thread Emanuele Balla
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: I do not need general advice (such as Postfix rules, Exim sucks or Maildirs are faster) but actual description of existing and running systems. Googling seems inefficient for that purpose and I presume that many interesting papers are only in closed and paying conference

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-15 Thread Paul Dwerryhouse
On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 06:56:21PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: The machines were all running 2.4.2x last time I was there, but they may be moving to 2.6.x now. All the stores, relays and proxies are still on 2.4.x, but the LDAP servers are now on 2.6.x (mainly because I could, not for any

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-15 Thread Paul Dwerryhouse
On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 12:30:56PM +0200, Aurélien Beaujean wrote: Your backend mailstores are running NFS on Linux 2.6 ? Don't you have any performance problems ? We don't use NFS. Only the LDAP servers are using 2.6.x - everything else is still on 2.4. Do you know how many mails you receive

why multicasting is working?

2004-10-15 Thread Oleg Butorin
Hello all, I have two linux debian systems, one with kernel 2.2.18, another with 2.4.20. Both kernels have option IP: multicasting DISABLED. However multicasting is working and both systems answered if I ping 224.0.0.1, and multicast programs are working! The question is: why this option IP:

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Russell Coker wrote: You seem to have entirely misunderstood what I wrote. And I think I had misunderstood you, but your message cleared things up... Having four engines on a jet rather than two or three should not be expected to give any increase in reliability. Having

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: ## Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): SAN and NAS are best avoided IMHO. NAS is *always* best avoided on anything that has mail in the description, IMHO. We put our mailboxes (about 100GB per server with cyrus IMAP) in a

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.15.1448 +0200]: Just to make it clear, I am advocating two *good* machines. ENOSUCHTHING wrt it not failing. Which is another good reason for not having such redundant servers. Now, that is a bit too far. The correct

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.15.1455 +0200]: In other words, your point is not that two MX are not more resilient to failure, but rather that the work of administrating them is not worth the gain in resilience ? This is frequently a problem people do not

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.15.1448 +0200]: Just to make it clear, I am advocating two *good* machines. ENOSUCHTHING wrt it not failing. Nor did I intend to imply that they wouldn't fail :) Which is

Re: why multicasting is working?

2004-10-15 Thread Theodore Knab
Check to see if the kernel switches are on (1) or off (0): find /proc/net -name '*cast* find /proc/sys -name '*cast*' On 15/10/04 15:20 +0400, Oleg Butorin wrote: Hello all, I have two linux debian systems, one with kernel 2.2.18, another with 2.4.20. Both kernels have option IP:

Re: Secure Delivery between MTA and MDA

2004-10-15 Thread Theodore Knab
Just setup Postfix as an MTA on your MDA server with TLS enabled. This may seem complicated, however it can be fairly simple. You can have all email scanned/relayed through a gateway mail-server. The internal MTA can be firewalled to prevent other connections from using it. Additionally only

Re: why multicasting is working?

2004-10-15 Thread Theodore Knab
Actually, this set of find commands will work better: find /proc/net -name '*cast* -print -exec cat {} ';' find /proc/sys -name '*cast* -print -exec cat {} ';' On 15/10/04 10:36 -0400, Theodore Knab wrote: Check to see if the kernel switches are on (1) or off (0): find /proc/net -name

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-15 Thread Gerhard Venter
Hi You might like the bandwidthd Debian package which is at http://fjortis.info/pub/debian/ Gerhard Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: The main purpose is identify periodically boxes on an internal private network which cause very high traffic, due to worms, virus and so. A per-IP simple report a

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-15 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): We put our mailboxes (about 100GB per server with cyrus IMAP) in a fibrechannel-connected SAN (there're some EMC cabinets in That's how it is usually done with Cyrus IMAP (since upstream makes it quite clear that you are either stupid or a

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-15 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 04:12:17PM +0100, Gerhard Venter wrote: You might like the bandwidthd Debian package which is at http://fjortis.info/pub/debian/ Mmm, yes thanks quite near to what I was looking for, ntop is unfortunately too much complicated for a naive user. If you are yet looking

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-15 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 05:09:02PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Francesco P. Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.15.1702 +0200]: The main purpose is identify periodically boxes on an internal private network which cause very high traffic, due to worms, virus and so. A per-IP

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-15 Thread Alex Borges
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Francesco P. Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.15.1702 +0200]: The main purpose is identify periodically boxes on an internal private network which cause very high traffic, due to worms, virus and so. A per-IP simple report a la mrtg could be nice.

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alex Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.15.1742 +0200]: The best ive seen was not in debian when i chacked. Its an ipacc but patched to lazyly report to a mysql database. This way the measurement doesnt take a lot of resources in a really demanding environment Yeah, except for the

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: So, now we would like Russel to explain why he does not like SAN. He probably doesn't advocate using SAN instead of local disks if you do not have a good reason to use SAN. If that's it, I *do* agree with him. Don't use SANs just for the

Re: Documentation of big mail systems?

2004-10-15 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): So, now we would like Russel to explain why he does not like SAN. He probably doesn't advocate using SAN instead of local disks if you do not have a good reason to use SAN. If that's it, I *do* agree with him. Don't use SANs just for the

Re: Advice for an IP accounting program

2004-10-15 Thread Alex Borges
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Alex Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.15.1742 +0200]: The best ive seen was not in debian when i chacked. Its an ipacc but patched to lazyly report to a mysql database. This way the measurement doesnt take a lot of resources in a really demanding environment

Re: why multicasting is working?

2004-10-15 Thread Mike Mestnik
I'm not an expert on MC, but I'd think 224.0.0.1 would be routed to your default route. Then the pkt would get multicasted and you would receve multiple responces. IIRC kernel level MC support is only for if you want to be on Mbone, not if you want to use it as a client/server. --- Oleg Butorin

Apache 2.0 ISP setup..

2004-10-15 Thread Simon Buchanan
Hi there, At the moment we are running apache 1.3.x on a debian woody box with PHP/MySQL enabled for selected sites and also a shared verisign cert (also for selected sites). At the moment we store the config in MySQL and then have a script that writes lots of config files to a conf/ dir (one

Re: initrd in Debian kernel-image

2004-10-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:12:30AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: Le mercredi 29 septembre 2004 ? 12:37, Gavin Hamill ?crivait: My question is... how does dpkg know that I need to load the megaraid module in the initrd so the system can mount / for init to boot the machine? I've looked in

Re: initrd in Debian kernel-image

2004-10-15 Thread Jason Lim
the basic rule of thumb is: if i'm likely to need it to boot or if it's essential for what the machine is supposed to do, then it gets compiled in to the kernel. otherwise as a module. craig Agree completely. In or case, we also compile in the 3ware RAID stuff, a few common NIC drivers

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-14 Thread A Mennucc
(reposting from private) note that what I state below *is* possible, as pointed by someone in d-private, by using a mke2fs option $ mke2fs -J device= (and of course you need to use a nonvolatile kind of ramdisk) - Forwarded message now that I come to think of it... there would be a

Networking Between eth0 eth1

2004-10-14 Thread Johnno
Hello, I am running Debian Woody and have two ethernet cards in the computer.. eth0 is connected to the internet, eth1 is connected to my local network.. how do I get my local network to access the internet on eth0?? The Debian box works fine and I can surf, download from the box, But I am

Re: Networking Between eth0 eth1

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Johnno [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.14.1034 +0200]: how do I get my local network to access the internet on eth0?? RTFM: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO.html http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Home-Network-mini-HOWTO.html http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux-Modem-Sharing/index.html

Re: Networking Between eth0 eth1

2004-10-14 Thread Jason Lim
From: Johnno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 October, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: Networking Between eth0 eth1 Hello, I am running Debian Woody and have two ethernet cards in the computer.. eth0 is connected to the internet, eth1 is connected to my local network..

Re: Networking Between eth0 eth1

2004-10-14 Thread Mark Janssen
On Thu, 2004-10-14 at 10:34, Johnno wrote: Hello, I am running Debian Woody and have two ethernet cards in the computer.. The short answer is 'apt-get install ipmasq' and then run 'ipmasq' But you really should read the documentation as suggested in the previous replies... It's dangerous to

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 01:47, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Russell Coker wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:29, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a lot of resources, why can't we

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.14.1525 +0200]: Or we can do it in two, with capacity to spare AND no downtime. I would definitely vote for two systems, but for high-availability, not load-sharing. Unless we use a NAS or similar in the backend with Maildirs to

Re: Updated Debian boot-floppies for Proliant

2004-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Halbwachs
Lucas Albers a écrit : Your boot floppy site designed to install on pretty much all the hardware out there: http://people.debian.org/~taggart/boot-floppies/ Thanks a LOT! I second this ! Thanks a lot. The next step is getting the hp monitoring tools working on debian. Take a look at

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Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:36:07 +1000, Russell wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:25, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Debian email isn't that big. We can do it all on a single machine(including spamassasin etc) with capacity to spare. Or

Intel SR1325TP1-E 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Simon Buchanan
Hi There, I am looking to deploy some 1U rack servers based on the Intel Entry Server Platform SR1325TP1-E, but using a 3ware Escalade 9500S-4LP hardware raid with 3 x SATA 200GB drives (RAID 5) instead of the onboard stuff (as i have heard there are some problems with compatability here)...

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Achim Schmidt
Hi Simon, We recently installed a intel SR1325TP1-E with a 3ware 7000-SATA-RAID running sarge - no problems with RAID - 3ware-software (RAID-cli and management via webserver works fine) - but unfortunatelly Intels Server Management 5.* does not support debian (better said no other linux than rh)

Intel SR1325TP1-E 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Simon Buchanan
Hi There, I am looking to deploy some 1U rack servers based on the Intel Entry Server Platform SR1325TP1-E, but using a 3ware Escalade 9500S-4LP hardware raid with 3 x SATA 200GB drives (RAID 5) instead of the onboard stuff (as i have heard there are some problems with compatability here)...

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Franz Georg Khler
On Do, Okt 14, 2004 at 09:30:13 +0200, Achim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Simon, We recently installed a intel SR1325TP1-E with a 3ware 7000-SATA-RAID running sarge - no problems with RAID - 3ware-software (RAID-cli and management via webserver works fine) - but unfortunatelly Intels

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Achim Schmidt
Am Do, 2004-10-14 um 22.01 schrieb Franz Georg Köhler: Isn't i2c supposed to be standardized? today i had to speak to their support and the hint given was to take the redhats rpm and create a own deb using alien :/ Further i was told using lm_senors or other tools using i2c won't work because

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Simon Buchanan said on Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 08:20:15AM +1300: Hi There, I am looking to deploy some 1U rack servers based on the Intel Entry Server Platform SR1325TP1-E, but using a 3ware Escalade 9500S-4LP hardware raid with 3 x SATA 200GB drives (RAID 5) instead of the onboard stuff (as i

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