implementing software raid on server

2004-01-16 Thread Lucas Albers
I created directions on converting a system to run its rood on software raid. This doc will be included in the next mdadm software raid tools release. This can be done completelly remotelly with no loss of data. (assuming you have an extra disk just sitting in a remote computer.) I thought I would

implementing software raid on server

2004-01-16 Thread Lucas Albers
I created directions on converting a system to run its rood on software raid. This doc will be included in the next mdadm software raid tools release. This can be done completelly remotelly with no loss of data. (assuming you have an extra disk just sitting in a remote computer.) I thought I would

[Help] How to use iostat or other command to monitor Software RAID I/O ????

2003-07-09 Thread axacheng
Hello lists : Does anyone knows , How to monitor Software RAID disk I/O i have a Software RAID5 device named /dev/md0 , i've tried to use iostat to monitor /dev/md0 I/O status ... But, it's seems doesn't work !!! === fileserver:/etc/rc.boot# iostat -x /dev/md0

Re: [Help] How to use iostat or other command to monitor Software RAID I/O ????

2003-07-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:18, axacheng wrote: Hello lists : Does anyone knows , How to monitor Software RAID disk I/O i have a Software RAID5 device named /dev/md0 , i've tried to use iostat to monitor /dev/md0 I/O status ... /proc/partitions does not have any counts for software RAID

[Help] How to use iostat or other command to monitor Software RAID I/O ????

2003-07-09 Thread axacheng
Hello lists : Does anyone knows , How to monitor Software RAID disk I/O i have a Software RAID5 device named /dev/md0 , i've tried to use iostat to monitor /dev/md0 I/O status ... But, it's seems doesn't work !!! === fileserver:/etc/rc.boot# iostat -x /dev/md0

Re: [Help] How to use iostat or other command to monitor Software RAID I/O ????

2003-07-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:18, axacheng wrote: Hello lists : Does anyone knows , How to monitor Software RAID disk I/O i have a Software RAID5 device named /dev/md0 , i've tried to use iostat to monitor /dev/md0 I/O status ... /proc/partitions does not have any counts for software RAID

Re: Bad Blocks in IDE software Raid 1

2003-04-30 Thread I. Forbes
Hello Russell On 18 Apr 2003 at 17:26, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 18:48, I. Forbes wrote: Do you think there would be any benefit gained from burning in a new drive, perhaps by running fsck -c -c, in order to find marginal blocks and get them mapped out before the drive is

Re: Bad Blocks in IDE software Raid 1

2003-04-18 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 18:48, I. Forbes wrote: Am I correct in assuming that every time a bad block is discovered and remapped on a software raid1 system: - there is some data loss I believe that if drive-0 in the array returns a read error then the data is read from drive-1 and there is no

Re: Bad Blocks in IDE software Raid 1

2003-04-17 Thread I. Forbes
later when you want to read the data (and this can happen even if the data is verified). Then the drive will return a read error. If you then write to the bad block the drive will usually perform a re-mapping and after that things will be fine. If using software RAID

Bad Blocks in IDE software Raid 1

2003-04-15 Thread I. Forbes
Hello All I have had a number of cases with disk's reporting as failed on systems with IDE drives in software RAID 1 configuration. I suppose the good news is you can change the drive with minimal downtime and no loss of data. But some of my customers are querying the apparent high failure

Re: Bad Blocks in IDE software Raid 1

2003-04-15 Thread Russell Coker
later when you want to read the data (and this can happen even if the data is verified). Then the drive will return a read error. If you then write to the bad block the drive will usually perform a re-mapping and after that things will be fine. If using software RAID then a raidhotadd

Re: Bad Blocks in IDE software Raid 1

2003-04-15 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 11:45, I. Forbes wrote: Hello All I have had a number of cases with disk's reporting as failed on systems with IDE drives in software RAID 1 configuration. I suppose the good news is you can change the drive with minimal downtime and no loss of data. But some of my

Re: linux software RAID with hot-swap hardware

2003-01-25 Thread Fraser Campbell
Russell Coker wrote: raid-extra-boot=/dev/sda,/dev/sdb According to the documentation of lilo, this shouldn't be necessary, but apparently either the funcionality or the docs are buggy. Without that line I couldn't boot at all from the second disk, the way I've tested it also

Re: linux software RAID with hot-swap hardware

2003-01-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:15, Fraser Campbell wrote: the way I've tested it also works with install-mbr /dev/md1 Why would you want to use install-mbr on a RAID device? I use install-mbr for the MBR on the hard drive (/dev/sda and /dev/sdb in this case) and then have it load the

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-24 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Fre, 2003-01-24 at 00:16, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote: I'm building a server that needs about 200G of harddisk space and the data has to be safe. If I need to replace a faulty hd and get downtime that's fine. Speed is not an issue. Agree with Russel and thing: what's raid6? If speed is not an

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-24 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
a backup boot disk available. Disks (couple of 120G IDE or something) will be in 1+0, raid5 or raid6 (does software raid do raid6?) Is there any reason to use hardware-raid over software-raid in this case? thanks. Tinus OK, For booting, I suggest getting a uw or better ie (u2w) scsi

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-24 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 09:22, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: On Fre, 2003-01-24 at 00:16, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote: I'm building a server that needs about 200G of harddisk space and the data has to be safe. If I need to replace a faulty hd and get downtime that's fine. Speed is

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-24 Thread Russell Coker
drive them at maximum speed. and are slower. This will be a robust boot system, software raid is not any good for booting. The only potential problem with booting from software RAID is if the primary disk dies. If you have hardware hot-swap then that's only a minor issue (just unplug the dead

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:26, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote: My question kind'a stands: If the only thing I ask of it is for the data to be safe (no speed or no downtime! issues) is there any reason to use hardware over software raid? No. I do not care if I have to take the server down for an hour

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-24 Thread Dave Watkins
hardware over software raid? I do not care if I have to take the server down for an hour (or 2, or 3) to replace a disk, be it a raid disk or boot disk. I have plenty of time, I could even run down to the store, get a new bootdisk, install debian and be up and running in 2 hours. no problem. ONLY

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:04, Dave Watkins wrote: There is perhaps one extra thing hardware RAID will give you. When it comes to hardware failures a Hardware RAID card will almost always detect a failed (or failing) drive before any software based system would. In fact I've seen a RAID card

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-24 Thread Dave Watkins
This was with an Adaptec SCSI card. I'm not sure how it detected the error (may have been SMART related), but it told me there was an error so I swapped the drive and ran the diagnostic software over the drive. It came back clean so I reinstalled the drive and it failed again an hour or so

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:40, Dave Watkins wrote: to hardware failures a Hardware RAID card will almost always detect a failed (or failing) drive before any software based system would. In This was with an Adaptec SCSI card. I'm not sure how it detected the error (may have been SMART

linux software RAID with hot-swap hardware

2003-01-23 Thread Russell Coker
I've written a document on using Linux software RAID with hot-swap SCSI hardware. It's slightly specific to the hardware I use (I wrote it for internal use) but can easily be adapted to be more generic. If someone wants to add it to a HOWTO or something then be my guest, please give me

Re: linux software RAID with hot-swap hardware

2003-01-23 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
:- Russell == Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi I've written a document on using Linux software RAID with hot-swap SCSI hardware. nice doc, just a little comment about booting: *Booting* To make a RAID-1 device bootable you first have to use fdisk to set

hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-23 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
) will be in 1+0, raid5 or raid6 (does software raid do raid6?) Is there any reason to use hardware-raid over software-raid in this case? thanks. Tinus. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:16, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote: The system will boot of a scsi HD, I have a backup boot disk available. Why not use RAID-1 for the boot device? Disks (couple of 120G IDE or something) will be in 1+0, raid5 or raid6 (does software raid do raid6?) What is RAID-6? RAID-6

Re: linux software RAID with hot-swap hardware

2003-01-23 Thread Andraz Sraka
re On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 14:42, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: Instead of install-mbr, I used the following line in lilo.conf: raid-extra-boot=/dev/sda,/dev/sdb According to the documentation of lilo, this shouldn't be necessary, but apparently either the funcionality or the docs are buggy.

Re: linux software RAID with hot-swap hardware

2003-01-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:25, Andraz Sraka wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 14:42, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: Instead of install-mbr, I used the following line in lilo.conf: raid-extra-boot=/dev/sda,/dev/sdb According to the documentation of lilo, this shouldn't be necessary, but apparently

Re: hard- or software-raid?

2003-01-23 Thread thing
IDE or something) will be in 1+0, raid5 or raid6 (does software raid do raid6?) Is there any reason to use hardware-raid over software-raid in this case? thanks. Tinus OK, For booting, I suggest getting a uw or better ie (u2w) scsi hardware raid controller (AMI megatrends seem linux

debian install on software raid

2002-10-03 Thread valerian
/mdX devices (so all your partitions, including / and /boot are mirrored). However, this process is time-consuming and error-prone. The Software-RAID HOWTO says that only Redhat had some kind of method for installing directly onto raid, but that HOWTO is dated Jan 2000, so perhaps things have

Re: debian install on software raid

2002-10-03 Thread jernej horvat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 02 October 2002 23:56, valerian wrote: Does Debian have or plan to provide a method to install directly onto a RAID device? read this simple text at http://tnt.aufbix.org/linux/raid/ hope it helps - -- Unix IS user friendly...It's

debian install on software raid

2002-10-03 Thread valerian
/mdX devices (so all your partitions, including / and /boot are mirrored). However, this process is time-consuming and error-prone. The Software-RAID HOWTO says that only Redhat had some kind of method for installing directly onto raid, but that HOWTO is dated Jan 2000, so perhaps things have

Re: Software Raid on root/boot, Woody

2002-04-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h Jason Lim wrote on Thu Mar 21, 2002 um 05:28:22PM: Don't we all wish there were these floppies... just like the ones Redhat has. Oh well... Debian's one big weakness that I see is in the installation procedure. No easy for newbies, not flexible for power-users. Same FUD

Software Raid on root/boot, Woody

2002-03-20 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
Folks, Any pointers to a set of ext3/software raid boot floppies? Thanks -- Sanjeev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Software Raid on root/boot, Woody

2002-03-20 Thread Jason Lim
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 2:13 PM Subject: Software Raid on root/boot, Woody Folks, Any pointers to a set of ext3/software raid boot floppies? Thanks -- Sanjeev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Software RAID...

2001-08-01 Thread Roger Abrahamsson
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Russell Coker wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:28, Roger Abrahamsson wrote: Do anyone here know is if there is any way you can add disks/grow an existing software raid-5 system (2.4.x kernels)? The cost of large IDE-disks now makes it possible to have some 300+GB system

Re: Software RAID...

2001-08-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:31, Roger Abrahamsson wrote: LVM is the correct solution to this problem. You can run LVM over multiple RAID-5 and RAID-1 arrays. Then you have RAID for reliability and LVM to allow easy growth of storage. I'm still not sure that LVM is ready for serious use