Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread E.L. Willighagen (Egon)
On Friday 18 July 2003 11:03, Stefan Gybas wrote: Jan Schulz wrote: I've also come to the conclusion that adding the version number to JARs in /usr/share/java/ is a bad idea. Take for example libxercres2-java: If you've used /usr/share/java/xercesImpl-2.3.0.jar in another package and then

Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
E.L. Willighagen (Egon) wrote: Since Xerces tends to give a lot of trouble moving from one version to another, even within the 2.x series!, a more granular packaging would be nice... i.e. separate packages for 2.3 and 2.4, etc... Probably yes. But I don't have the time to maintain that many

Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread Ben Burton
BTW, I've not seen any package that usees the versioned JAR - so it obviously is not useful. This is not a valid argument. Just because debian packages don't use a feature doesn't mean users aren't using the feature with their own home-grown software. Ben. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer

2003-07-18 Thread Takashi Okamoto
From: Stefan Gybas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:23:30 +0200 Package: junit Section: contrib/devel Version: 3.8.1-3 Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine So it does not depend on any packages outside of main.

Re: junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer

2003-07-18 Thread E.L. Willighagen (Egon)
On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:23, Takashi Okamoto wrote: From: Stefan Gybas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:23:30 +0200 So it does not depend on any packages outside of main. It is in contrib because it does

Re: junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer

2003-07-18 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo E.L., * E.L. Willighagen (Egon) wrote: you considered a SWT drop in? Ah, no, just checked libswt-java is in contrib too... so, that won't help... I haven't tested swt with kaffe, but I think that it should work. The problem is, that it is build from eclipse source and if that runs under

Re: junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer

2003-07-18 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 20:42, Jan Schulz wrote: I haven't tested swt with kaffe, but I think that it should work. The problem is, that it is build from eclipse source and if that runs under kaffe is something to be investigated :( Anyway it also has motif portions, so... Helmer Krämer

Eclipse and main (was: junit-freenet)

2003-07-18 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Mark, * Mark Wielaard wrote: Helmer Krämer recently fixed some things in Kaffe to get Eclipse to startup (doesn't do much more then startup, but it is a start): http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2003-July/043015.html And Eclipse of course runs with gcj: http://klomp.org/mark/gij_eclipse/

Re: junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer

2003-07-18 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Philipp, * Philipp Meier wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 08:42:06PM +0200, Jan Schulz wrote: kaffe is something to be investigated :( Anyway it also has motif portions, so... Can't then be the gtk binding of swt be of use? In the moment (not yet in unstable, but I hope soon:

Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Stefan, * Stefan Gybas wrote: Ben Burton wrote: This is not a valid argument. Just because debian packages don't use a feature doesn't mean users aren't using the feature with their own home-grown software. But I think the process should go in the other direction: Instead of specifing

Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Stefan, * Stefan Gybas wrote: (e.g. to use a well-defined class path) BTW: I just had some problems with that: SWT is (2.1.1-3) now avavilable with motif and gtk bindings. The problem is, that gtk is distributet in two jars and motif in one jar (license issues...). So when someone

Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread Ben Burton
But I think the process should go in the other direction: Instead of specifing something and waiting for people to implement it we should document what has been implemented and is working well. This is not necessarily true; take as an example the /usr/lib/jni proposal. Although pretty much

Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread E.L. Willighagen (Egon)
On Friday 18 July 2003 11:03, Stefan Gybas wrote: Jan Schulz wrote: I've also come to the conclusion that adding the version number to JARs in /usr/share/java/ is a bad idea. Take for example libxercres2-java: If you've used /usr/share/java/xercesImpl-2.3.0.jar in another package and then

Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello Thanks for taking over java-common. I thought you would. :) On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 11:03:22AM +0200, Stefan Gybas wrote: Jan Schulz wrote: I just wanted to know what direction. I'm not suggesting to discuss the things word by word... I've collected some suggestions for building

Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ben Burton wrote: This is not a valid argument. Just because debian packages don't use a feature doesn't mean users aren't using the feature with their own home-grown software. But I think the process should go in the other direction: Instead of specifing something and waiting for people to

Re: junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer

2003-07-18 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo E.L., * E.L. Willighagen (Egon) wrote: you considered a SWT drop in? Ah, no, just checked libswt-java is in contrib too... so, that won't help... I haven't tested swt with kaffe, but I think that it should work. The problem is, that it is build from eclipse source and if that runs under

Re: junit-freenet, was Re: Bug#165504 acknowledged by developer

2003-07-18 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 20:42, Jan Schulz wrote: I haven't tested swt with kaffe, but I think that it should work. The problem is, that it is build from eclipse source and if that runs under kaffe is something to be investigated :( Anyway it also has motif portions, so... Helmer Krämer

Eclipse and main (was: junit-freenet)

2003-07-18 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Mark, * Mark Wielaard wrote: Helmer Krämer recently fixed some things in Kaffe to get Eclipse to startup (doesn't do much more then startup, but it is a start): http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2003-July/043015.html And Eclipse of course runs with gcj: http://klomp.org/mark/gij_eclipse/

Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Stefan, * Stefan Gybas wrote: (e.g. to use a well-defined class path) BTW: I just had some problems with that: SWT is (2.1.1-3) now avavilable with motif and gtk bindings. The problem is, that gtk is distributet in two jars and motif in one jar (license issues...). So when someone

Re: additions to java-policy

2003-07-18 Thread Ben Burton
But I think the process should go in the other direction: Instead of specifing something and waiting for people to implement it we should document what has been implemented and is working well. This is not necessarily true; take as an example the /usr/lib/jni proposal. Although pretty much