Hello Luke,
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:18:47 -0400
Luke Seubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This would tend to argue in favor of segregated menus then,
with GTK apps showing up when one is using the Gnome desktop, and QT apps
showing up when one is in the KDE desktop.
But GTK is not Gnome. What
On Friday 25 October 2002 00:06, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
3.0.8 or something, to see if all versions are the same. (Unfortunately
dpkg truncates the names and the versions, and I don't know how to make it
show the whole name. Oh well, life is not always easy)
dpkg adjusts it's output to
Hi
Why in my computer Quanta Open without editor window. In main window is
only structure tree.
To open edit window I have to click show messages to open edit window
which include messages window.
When I edit sth in edit window I cant use shortcats. To use shortcat I
have to activate main
fredagen den 25 oktober 2002 12.46 skrev Alex:
dpkg adjusts it's output to your screen width. Set COLUMNS to something
wider and you get full packagenames and versions. Works for other apps too.
COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l
Fantastic! Thank you.
Many other programs sense the column with themselves.
I run Debian unstable with KDE 3.1b2 from shakti.cx and upgrade nightly.
I can look at a web page (say www.slashdot.org) in Konqueror side-by-side
with Galeon, and the output from Konqueror is a poor comparison to the
output of the Mozilla engine. Is this a byproduct of the
Bob Tilley wrote:
I run Debian unstable with KDE 3.1b2 from shakti.cx and upgrade
nightly.
I can look at a web page (say www.slashdot.org) in Konqueror
side-by-side with Galeon, and the output from Konqueror is a poor
comparison to the output of the Mozilla engine. Is this a
byproduct of
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On Friday 25 October 2002 13:42, Bob Tilley wrote:
I run Debian unstable with KDE 3.1b2 from shakti.cx and upgrade nightly.
I can look at a web page (say www.slashdot.org) in Konqueror side-by-side
with Galeon, and the output from Konqueror is a
Hi,
I have a debian 2.4.19 and kde 3.0.3 running on my
laptop,
I was trying to install kdeartworks, but when I ran
the ./configure file It says can't find X includes .
this is the error message I get .
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checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X
includes. Please check your installation
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, suresh kumar sharma wrote:
Hi,
I have a debian 2.4.19 and kde 3.0.3 running on my
laptop,
I was trying to install kdeartworks, but when I ran
the ./configure file It says can't find X includes .
this is the error message I get .
##
checking for X... configure:
Le Vendredi 25 Octobre 2002 15:42, suresh kumar sharma a écrit :
Hi,
I have a debian 2.4.19 and kde 3.0.3 running on my
laptop,
I was trying to install kdeartworks, but when I ran
the ./configure file It says can't find X includes .
this is the error message I get .
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checking for
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Thanks for the reply. I have all of those packages so thanks for them as well
:) The question remains though, what happened to archive web page etc.
under 'tools' in Konqueror? Are they simply missing, or is there some other
package, not a plugin
After reading the discussion list recently, I'm
concerned we'll be wasting our time trying to
convice others of our opinions. So, here's my two
cents worth.
Top 10 things you say when having a
non-productive discussion of user's experience.
10. Users don't what _that_
9. Users what _this_
8.
The cause and the correction to my recent browser rendering woes is on
display today at The Register.
The A HREF=http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/27788.html;article/A
discusses how to purtify font display throughout the KDE environment. The
techniques are probably applicable to other
torsdagen den 24 oktober 2002 20.05 skrev Corey Kovacs:
2: When I try to install koffice, it's telling me that it needs
kdelibs4
koffice: Depends: koffice-libs but it is not going to be installed
Depends: karbon but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kchart but
From: Bob Tilley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The cause and the correction to my recent browser rendering woes is on
display today at The Register.
The A HREF=http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/27788.html;article/A
discusses how to purtify font display throughout the KDE environment. The
Apparently KDE3 and famd (file alteration monitor daemon) don't play
nicely together. There's a bug already filed against famd. famd hogs
the CPU, possilby polling for changes. I'm using Linux 2.4.19 and there
famd is supposed to use the resource-saving dnotify method for
detecting changes.
Derek Broughton wrote:
Are you seriously telling me that FreeType (which I _only_ have for support
of my TTF fonts), as delivered by Debian, doesn't support anti-aliasing,
and I have to recompile it?
It's not a question of whether it supports AA or not, its whether it uses the
bytecode
Hello,
I am using the default kde packages from debian sarge on x86 (kde
2.2.2-5).
(libqt2 = qt 2.3.1)
I also have X setup to use TTF. I know my TTF setup works -- all
other non-kde apps can see TTF correctly (phoenix, mozilla,
sylpheed, etc.).
Here is the problem:
Starting from a clean slate
On 10/24/2002 10:42 PM, Miles Bader at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Luke Seubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am not quite sure what you mean. I don't think the whole menu
structure is being based upon any one piddling detail - but I am not sure
which piddling detail you mean. Please clarify a
On 10/24/2002 11:10 PM, Jeff Waugh at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey,
I think this thread could do with a good helping of spec-reading. :-)
http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/VFolderDesktops.txt
You can do almost all of this with the vFolder spec, and the best thing is
that you will
quote who=Luke Seubert/
In other words, we should be using a unified Debian menu structure with
appropriate tweaks for certain environments (and in particular, _not_ using
the default Gnome/KDE menu structures).
Yup.
No... The point behind the vFolder spec is that both GNOME and KDE
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In other words, we should be using a unified Debian menu structure
with appropriate tweaks for certain environments (and in
particular, _not_ using the default Gnome/KDE menu structures).
Yup.
No... The point behind the vFolder spec is that
quote who=Miles Bader/
I'm confused -- why do you say `No' when the rest of what you write seems
to agree with what was said?
That is, isn't vFolder/.desktop a _mechanism_, with which the debian menu
structure could be conveniently displayed by Gnome/KDE (replacing the
normal Gnome/KDE
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think this thread could do with a good helping of spec-reading. :-)
http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/VFolderDesktops.txt
I looked at that, and it's almost completely impossible to understand,
since it apparently assumes that you already know what
quote who=Miles Bader/
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think this thread could do with a good helping of spec-reading. :-)
http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/VFolderDesktops.txt
I looked at that, and it's almost completely impossible to understand,
since it apparently
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The .desktop format is the proposed replacement for Debian's current menu
file format, and in use by GNOME and KDE already. I would have thought the
standard was required reading for even starting to discuss the next-gen menu
stuff in Debian...
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:12:59PM -0400, Luke Seubert wrote:
On 10/24/2002 7:20 PM, Nick Leverton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why just make one decision when you can make two, though ? And
isn't it All About Choice[tm] anyway ? ;-)
Yeah, except that too much choice is rough too. Does
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 09:57:12PM -0400, Luke Seubert wrote:
On 10/24/2002 6:29 PM, Nick Leverton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm with the Want to group like tasks with like camp, myself. But why
not make it an Option[tm] ? Have a configurable bit in the menu program
called Flatten
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 03:20:49PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Miles Bader/
I'm confused -- why do you say `No' when the rest of what you write seems
to agree with what was said?
That is, isn't vFolder/.desktop a _mechanism_, with which the debian menu
structure could be
quote who=Sven Luther/
So we are supposed to throw the debian menu system aside, and use the
freedesktop stuff as replacement ? And all other WMs have to adapt ?
Given that Debian's shift to the .desktop format has already been proposed
(and work proceeds on its implementation), and that the
quote who=Sven Luther/
That said, i guess this is against the wish of the upstream gnome team,
so politics again, and their stupid opinion that they know best what
should go on _my_ desktop than me, or rather that they only target 'real
users' for gnome 2, 'real users' which would be confused
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 01:10:57PM +1000, Jeff Waugh scribbled:
quote who=Miles Bader/
I don't think it's bad to prejudice the displayed menus toward the
`current environment', but I think the difference between the menus
displayed when using a Gnome desktop and those displayed when using
Luke Seubert writes:
Hmm, that might be doable. It does add more complexity for the folks
working on the backend of all this stuff. And it adds another slightly
complicated question during install time possibily - Attention User - Do
you want both Gnome and KDE apps showing up in your
From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
quote who=Miles Bader/
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think this thread could do with a good helping of spec-reading. :-)
http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/VFolderDesktops.txt
I looked at that, and it's almost completely impossible
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 11:59:36PM +1000, Jeff Waugh scribbled:
quote who=Marek Habersack/
Jeff, while all you write above is true and the vFolder spec is the
mechanism which will be used (as I gather), I thought this discussion was
not about how to do that technically but how to organize
quote who=Chris Lawrence/
Here's the menu rewrite plan in a nutshell:
8 snip the good stuff 8
Great, this looks awesome. Thanks! It will be very cool to have complete,
internationalised menus in Debian.
- GNOME2 and KDE 3.1 can deal with these .desktop files the same way
they deal with
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