Ciao :)
Alle 23:42, martedì 8 aprile 2003, Hendrik Sattler ha scritto:
What's worse is that KDE still takes ages to start, independent on how fast
the system is. KDM starts up fast (although it is still pretty slow), too,
so somewhere must be a big problem in the startup routine. The whole
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:40:40AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
Do you think that /etc/init.d/xfree86-common should create this? It
shouldn't
be THAT difficult to have /etc/init.d/xfree86-common look for configuration
files specifying which directories to create etc.
I can't see why not,
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 06:19:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
I read that but it does not explain why the other method is 3-4 times (!)
slower. Especially, because the sockets in /tmp/.ICE-unix are owned by me!
So there must be an if-then-else code somewhere that causes this behaviour.
On Donnerstag, 10. April 2003 08:44, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 06:19:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
I read that but it does not explain why the other method is 3-4 times
(!) slower. Especially, because the sockets in /tmp/.ICE-unix are
owned by me! So there must be an
On Thursday 10 April 2003 07:54, Daniel Stone wrote:
Do you think that /etc/init.d/xfree86-common should create this? It
shouldn't be THAT difficult to have /etc/init.d/xfree86-common look for
configuration files specifying which directories to create etc.
I can't see why not, no
Let's
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:56:13AM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2003 07:54, Daniel Stone wrote:
Do you think that /etc/init.d/xfree86-common should create this? It
shouldn't be THAT difficult to have /etc/init.d/xfree86-common look for
configuration files
On Thursday 10 April 2003 11:26, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:56:13AM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2003 07:54, Daniel Stone wrote:
Do you think that /etc/init.d/xfree86-common should create this? It
shouldn't be THAT difficult to have
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 01:02:13PM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote:
I know. I run your packages! :)
But Branden does the official version isn't it?
Errr... who dares to send him an email? :)
Well, Branden will be using my 4.3 debs as a base for his 4.3 debs. I'll
have a chat to him about it
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:06:07PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 01:02:13PM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote:
I know. I run your packages! :)
But Branden does the official version isn't it?
Errr... who dares to send him an email? :)
Well, Branden will be using my
* Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I keep getting confused -- did Star somehow acquire the old
Wordstar? And incorporated parts of it in Star Office?
Nope: StarOffice was created by a guy from Germany some years back.
Something like the Compaq/HP garage thingie :). He founded
Hello,
It's getting Off Topic :)
* Yven Johannes Leist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(I really wonder why nobody else thought of getting rid, or least modifying
the horribly annoying splashscreen before...)
You can do that as well with your debian packages (and probably with
every other version).
On Thursday 10 April 2003 14:34, Daniel Stone wrote:
xfree86 (4.3.0-0ds3v2) unstable; urgency=low
[...]
* debian/xfree86-common.init:
+ Now automatically makes /tmp/.ICE-unix, and makes it root.root 1777.
This increases KDE startup time dramatically. No, really.
patch: DEcreases!
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:13:15PM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2003 14:34, Daniel Stone wrote:
xfree86 (4.3.0-0ds3v2) unstable; urgency=low
[...]
* debian/xfree86-common.init:
+ Now automatically makes /tmp/.ICE-unix, and makes it root.root 1777.
This
onsdagen den 9 april 2003 01.18 skrev Daniel Stone:
I thought you'd know that saying how much memory kdeinit takes is
*utterly* *useless*. Obviously not.
It is not useless, as it says how much RAM is taken by KDE + some of the
applications. gmemusage just can't give a more find graded
Here is the scoop. I added 32 more MBs of memory for the time being until I
can go to town and pick up a stick of SDRAM 133. Also, I get an error when
trying to chown root.root /tmp/.ICE-unix. It says something about no such
directory. I added the hack to the xfree86-common initscript. Could this
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 07:19:06AM +0200, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
onsdagen den 9 april 2003 01.18 skrev Daniel Stone:
I thought you'd know that saying how much memory kdeinit takes is
*utterly* *useless*. Obviously not.
It is not useless, as it says how much RAM is taken by KDE + some of
onsdagen den 9 april 2003 00.32 skrev kosh:
X memory usage is evil black magic to figure out.
It also includes AGP mapped memory, pixmaps and stuff that programs have
open get charged to X and damned if I know how much other stuff it has. At
one point I had X showing it was using 1G of ram on
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 08:22:51AM +0200, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
The whole discussion was how much RAM is needed, and in my opinion, 128MB is
too little. It works, but causes a lot of swapping with normal things like
web browsing etc. The best and cheapest speed up for a 128MB system is
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Daniel Stone wrote:
| I have edited /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh I haven't rebooted yet, so I
| don't know if it works.
|
| Probably, but you're not getting rid of any stale files inside of
| .ICE-unix. :)
True. I could discard that and instead do the
On Wednesday 09 April 2003 07:19, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
Which is why I say that for practical purposes, it appears that 256MB is a
reasonable amount of RAM, in my opinion. Unless you run just only kmail +
one instance of konqueror and noth more. Then 128MB might be allright.
Which does not
On Wednesday 09 April 2003 09:22, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 08:50:29AM +0200, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
onsdagen den 9 april 2003 07.44 skrev Daniel Stone:
256mb of RAM is an irresponsible figure
to be bandying around.
Memory chips often comes in 128MB increments,
On Wednesday 09 April 2003 11:56, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 11:10:05AM +0200, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
onsdagen den 9 april 2003 09.22 skrev Daniel Stone:
Not to mention 64mb.
Well, where I live, 128MB appears to be the smallest size sold in common
shops.
Maybe in,
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:03:38PM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote:
On Wednesday 09 April 2003 11:56, Daniel Stone wrote:
Maybe in, say, DDR.
256 megs ddr = 80 euro. Reason my box has 256 meg :) I'll upgrade once I have
a game that needs more for textures.
Well, I'm talking Australian
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:15:13PM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote:
On Wednesday 09 April 2003 09:22, Daniel Stone wrote:
Umm, it's still about $au60-80; people often don't have that money to
spare. My AthlonXP 2400+ is a direct upgrade from the PII 350, which I
had for ages.
Oh gosh, here
On Wednesday 09 April 2003 13:31, Daniel Stone wrote:
Um, I'm not a hardware is so cheap today guy. I've spent most of the
thread pointing out why saying hardware's cheap, go buy it is a
ridiculous assertion.
Was still pointing at KL...
Yes I am talking about EDO ram of course! ever tried
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Am Mittwoch, 9. April 2003 03:34 schrieb Daniel Stone:
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 03:11:31AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
I just tried the
chown root.root /tmp/.ICE-unix
/etc/init.d/kdm restart
and it really kicks it. Increadible but
On Wednesday 09 April 2003 13:03, Frank Van Damme wrote:
It's pretty simple - there's even a HOWTO around.
Url?
Could be: http://dforce.sh.cvut.cz/~seli/download/tips.html
Cheers,
Mika
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Aryan Ameri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There was a time, when Sun was known for producing fast, secure and
stable code. e.g back in mid 90s, everyone (even their competitors)
agreed that Solaris was the best *nix ever. When in 2000 they
announced their plan for staroffice/openoffice.Borg I
On Wednesday 09 April 2003 02:41 pm, Gaute Hvoslef Kvalnes wrote:
Sun didn't create StarOffice, they bought it from Star Division (a
German company, I think), who developed it until version 5.2. Since
then, it has really been made faster, but there's still a long way to
go. If you compare it
On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:44, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:21:43PM -0700, Terry Milnes wrote:
Here is the scoop. I added 32 more MBs of memory for the time being until
I can go to town and pick up a stick of SDRAM 133. Also, I get an error
when trying to chown root.root
On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 04:55:06PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 08:39:17PM -0700, Terry Milnes wrote:
I have 128MB of RAM and it seems to always be completely used up when I am
logged in as user. I know that this could be causing my slowdown, but what
else can be
On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:30:05AM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote:
On Tuesday 08 April 2003 09:18, Daniel Stone wrote:
I have 128MB of RAM and it seems to always be completely used up when I
am logged in as user. I know that this could be causing my slowdown,
but what else can be
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Daniel Stone wrote:
| I have 128MB of RAM and it seems to always be completely used
| up when I am logged in as user. I know that this could be
| causing my slowdown, but what else can be causing it?
| Secondly, how do I speed things up without
On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 12:53:27PM +0200, S?ren Friis-Nielsen wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
| I have 128MB of RAM and it seems to always be completely used
| up when I am logged in as user. I know that this could be
| causing my slowdown, but what else can be causing it?
| Secondly, how do I
On Tuesday 08 April 2003 13:11, Daniel Stone wrote:
I put it in the same /etc/init.d script that wipes out /tmp (sysmisc.sh
or somesuch), but that feels kinda wrong. :)
Doesn't Debian set up /tmp/.X11-unix allready on boot? I wonder why that
script doesn't do that with ICE-unix.
--
Frank Van
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Op dinsdag 8 april 2003 13:11, schreef Daniel Stone:
On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 12:53:27PM +0200, S?ren Friis-Nielsen wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
|
| Try running 'chown root.root /tmp/.ICE-unix' when you log in.
Is there a good place to put
tisdagen den 8 april 2003 05.39 skrev Terry Milnes:
I have 128MB of RAM and it seems to always be completely used up when I am
logged in as user. I know that this could be causing my slowdown, but what
else can be causing it? Secondly, how do I speed things up without
installing more RAM?
KDE
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Am Dienstag, 8. April 2003 22:23 schrieb Karolina Lindqvist:
xfree86 115MB!
What is the X server doing with all that RAM?
Not, it is not a memory leak. I quitted xsane, and gqview, and it went down
to
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Am Dienstag, 8. April 2003 23:08 schrieb Patrick Dreker:
The X memory usage includes AGP mem. So if your card has 32 meg of RAM you
have to subtract this first. My X reports 290 megs used, but I have 128
megs of that on my graphics board.
* Karolina Lindqvist schrieb am 08.04.03 um 22:23 Uhr:
tisdagen den 8 april 2003 05.39 skrev Terry Milnes:
I have 128MB of RAM and it seems to always be completely used up when I am
logged in as user. I know that this could be causing my slowdown, but what
else can be causing it? Secondly,
On 08.Apr 2003 - 23:08:36, Patrick Dreker wrote:
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Am Dienstag, 8. April 2003 22:23 schrieb Karolina Lindqvist:
xfree86 115MB!
What is the X server doing with all that RAM?
Not, it is not a memory
On Tuesday 08 April 2003 03:42 pm, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
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Am Dienstag, 8. April 2003 23:08 schrieb Patrick Dreker:
The X memory usage includes AGP mem. So if your card has 32 meg of RAM
you have to subtract this first. My X reports 290 megs
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Am Dienstag, 8. April 2003 23:42 schrieb Hendrik Sattler:
Am Dienstag, 8. April 2003 23:08 schrieb Patrick Dreker:
The X memory usage includes AGP mem. So if your card has 32 meg of RAM
you have to subtract this first. My X reports 290 megs used,
On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:23:46PM +0200, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
tisdagen den 8 april 2003 05.39 skrev Terry Milnes:
I have 128MB of RAM and it seems to always be completely used up when I am
logged in as user. I know that this could be causing my slowdown, but what
else can be causing
On Wednesday 09 April 2003 00:47, Patrick Dreker wrote:
Sure. top readings for memory have a history of being annoyingly easy to
misunderstand (read: being wrong). IIRC these memory readings show all mem
used by shared libs as belonging to the app, so these are displayed
multiple times.
Is
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 03:11:31AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
I just tried the
chown root.root /tmp/.ICE-unix
/etc/init.d/kdm restart
and it really kicks it. Increadible but this this reduces the KDE startup
time
to 1/3. Maybe there are other tweaks. I will go on trying,
I have 128MB of RAM and it seems to always be
completely used up when I am logged in as user. I know that this could be
causing my slowdown, but what else can be causing it? Secondly, how do I speed
things up without installing more RAM?
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