Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-23 Thread Paul Scott
Barry wrote: On Friday 23 April 2004 01:22, Nate Duehr wrote: Jes?s Roncero Franco wrote: snip snip Just because the userbase tends to use apt-get quite a bit, doesn't mean it's intelligent enough to do everything, nor has it ever been. I remember seeing notes from the apt-get develo

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-23 Thread ingo fischenich
>> Just because the userbase tends to use apt-get quite a bit, doesn't mean >> it's intelligent enough to do everything, nor has it ever been. I >> remember seeing notes from the apt-get developers warning against its >> use as a generic tool long ago. >> >> The warnings about how it does its pack

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-23 Thread Barry
On Friday 23 April 2004 01:22, Nate Duehr wrote: > Jesús Roncero Franco wrote: snip > snip > Just because the userbase tends to use apt-get quite a bit, doesn't mean > it's intelligent enough to do everything, nor has it ever been. I > remember seeing notes from the apt-get developers warning agai

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-22 Thread Nate Duehr
Jesús Roncero Franco wrote: Ok, I'd remake my question. If today's preferred method of installing and upgrading software in debian is apt-get, and it has some problems, why is this the first time I heard of it? I mean, from a user perspective, one that reads many debian related mailing lists, ap

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-22 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Miércoles, 21 de Abril de 2004 00:08, Florian Ernst escribió: > a) apt-get is easily explainable, i.e. telling someone to "apt-get > install " instead of telling to start aptitude / dselect / Hey! :-) aptitude is really really similar to apt-get in CLI. In fact, I'm always lost using aptitude'

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-21 Thread Dominik Karall
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 02:00, Michael Peddemors wrote: > Korganizer ate my calendar.. (Backup your .ics, actually my fault, anyone > upgrading should always backup their .kde directory, JUST IN CASE, however > it still should not have ate it.) I did a backup, but I think something is wrong with

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-21 Thread Dominique Devriese
Hendrik Sattler writes: > The latter is much, much more informative and better tells me about > the current situation. aptitude is even wrong here (the lynx package > is only removed, not purged). From dpkg: rc lynx 2.8.4.1b-1 I have no idea about the interface of all these things. Furthermore,

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-21 Thread Dominique Devriese
Jesús Roncero Franco writes: > Ok, I'd remake my question. If today's preferred method of > installing and upgrading software in debian is apt-get, and it has > some problems, why is this the first time I heard of it? I mean, > from a user perspective, one that reads many debian related mailing >

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Tuesday 20 April 2004 23:33 schrieb Dominique Devriese: [...] After purging and reinstalling aptitude with apt-get ;), I could make it work (previously, something was messed up because it wanted to install about 100 new packages without me doing anything). Maybe you know about one issue with

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello again! On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 11:18:12PM +0200, Jesús Roncero Franco wrote: > On Tuesday 20 April 2004 22:56, Florian Ernst wrote: > > Please see for example the Release Note for Woody at > > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading#s-dse > >lectupgrade and foll

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Dominique Devriese
Jesús Roncero Franco writes: > On Tuesday 20 April 2004 20:39, Dominique Devriese wrote: >> Yes.  Meaning that it needs uninstalling other packages and >> installing new ones instead. >> >> > Additionally, I disagree with you. I do not like >> > dselect. aptitute may be good but the interface real

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Jesús Roncero Franco
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 22:56, Florian Ernst wrote: > Hello! > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 10:40:50PM +0200, Jesús Roncero Franco wrote: > > Maybe it is that people is too used to apt-get dist-upgrading quite > > easily. Why then debian relies on apt-get and not on aptitude :-? > > Does Debian? Wel

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello! On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 10:40:50PM +0200, Jesús Roncero Franco wrote: > Maybe it is that people is too used to apt-get dist-upgrading quite easily. > Why then debian relies on apt-get and not on aptitude :-? Does Debian? Please see for example the Release Note for Woody at http://www.deb

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Jesús Roncero Franco
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 20:39, Dominique Devriese wrote: > Yes.  Meaning that it needs uninstalling other packages and installing > new ones instead. > > > Additionally, I disagree with you. I do not like dselect. aptitute > > may be good but the interface really sucks > > It's not about an interf

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Dominique Devriese
Hendrik Sattler writes: > Am Tuesday 20 April 2004 18:09 schrieb Dominique Devriese: >> Michael Peddemors writes: >> > If you notice, I am NOT using unstable, but WOODY.. Again, I am >> > doing testing of the upgrade, for our clients are going to run >> > into the same issues.. This is to point

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Michael Peddemors
Not to start a flame, but upgrading only KDE from a 3.2.0 to a 3.2.2 would not be expected to be a major upgrade.. PS, the problem with the OpenOffice compatability still exists on Woody with 3.2.2, because of the libfreetype.. What apt sources do use for OpenOffice that doens't have these issu

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Tuesday 20 April 2004 18:09 schrieb Dominique Devriese: > Michael Peddemors writes: > > If you notice, I am NOT using unstable, but WOODY.. Again, I am > > doing testing of the upgrade, for our clients are going to run into > > the same issues.. This is to point out that there are some > > dep

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Dominique Devriese
Michael Peddemors writes: > If you notice, I am NOT using unstable, but WOODY.. Again, I am > doing testing of the upgrade, for our clients are going to run into > the same issues.. This is to point out that there are some > dependency problems that prevent an apt-get upgrade, or apt-get > insta

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello Michael! On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 08:00:06AM -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote: > On April 20, 2004 01:14 am, you wrote: > > First of all, apparently you're using "apt-get install" for upgrading > > packages. This is a bad idea. Use dselect, aptitude, synaptic, these > > do a much better job a

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread jedd
On Tue April 20 2004 10:00 am, Michael Peddemors wrote: ] Hmm.. THis was the worst KDE upgrade in a long while.. ] Had to delete 1/2 of KDE to get the upgrade to work, from KDE 3.2.0 to 3.2.2 I went from 3.2.0 to 3.2.1 and lost my bookmarks (and a few other things, as detailed in a message to

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Michael Peddemors
On April 20, 2004 01:14 am, you wrote: > Michael Peddemors writes: > > Korganizer ate my calendar.. (Backup your .ics, actually my fault, > > anyone upgrading should always backup their .kde directory, JUST IN > > CASE, however it still should not have ate it.) > > Can you file a bug report about t

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-20 Thread Dominique Devriese
Michael Peddemors writes: > Korganizer ate my calendar.. (Backup your .ics, actually my fault, > anyone upgrading should always backup their .kde directory, JUST IN > CASE, however it still should not have ate it.) Can you file a bug report about that on bugs.kde.org, so people there can try to d

KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..

2004-04-19 Thread Michael Peddemors
Hmm.. THis was the worst KDE upgrade in a long while.. Had to delete 1/2 of KDE to get the upgrade to work, from KDE 3.2.0 to 3.2.2 Korganizer ate my calendar.. (Backup your .ics, actually my fault, anyone upgrading should always backup their .kde directory, JUST IN CASE, however it still should

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for woody?

2004-04-19 Thread Michael Stucki
>> afaik: >> 3.2.2 will be released tomorrow and on the kde.org server woody binary >> packages will be available, too. > It's out now - but it comes with XFree 4.3 packages. Anyone know why? I'm wondering, too. This doesn't look very professional, I have already seen one first comment of a guy w

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for woody?

2004-04-19 Thread Michael Bona
Noèl Köthe wrote: > Am Fr, den 16.04.2004 schrieb Ian Eure um 22:17: >> Does anyone have a source for this? 3.2.0 is the latest I've been able to >> find. > > afaik: > 3.2.2 will be released tomorrow and on the kde.org server woody binary > packages will be available, too. > It's out now - but i

Re: KDE 3.2.2 for woody?

2004-04-18 Thread Noèl Köthe
Am Fr, den 16.04.2004 schrieb Ian Eure um 22:17: > Does anyone have a source for this? 3.2.0 is the latest I've been able to > find. afaik: 3.2.2 will be released tomorrow and on the kde.org server woody binary packages will be available, too. -- NoÃl KÃthe Debian GNU/Linux, www.debian.org s

KDE 3.2.2 for woody?

2004-04-16 Thread Ian Eure
Does anyone have a source for this? 3.2.0 is the latest I've been able to find.