Nicolas FRANCOIS - 15.10.18, 08:45:
> Le Fri, 7 May 2010 20:29:52 +0200,
> Martin Steigerwald a écrit :
[…]
> Either you are posting from the past, or your clock is way off ! :-)
> Could you please try to correct the problem ? I see all your messages
> at the bottom of my list of new messages...
Le Fri, 7 May 2010 20:29:52 +0200,
Martin Steigerwald a écrit :
Hi Martin.
Either you are posting from the past, or your clock is way off ! :-)
Could you please try to correct the problem ? I see all your messages
at the bottom of my list of new messages... It's quite disturbing.
Thanks.
\bye
On 2010-05-06 Diederik de Haas wrote:
PostgreSQL is apparently capable of providing the proper features and
Tobias Koenig has made Akonadi working with PostgreSQL since the end of
last year (http://tokoe-kde.blogspot.com/2009/12/akonadi-
and-postgresql.html). That patch was committed to trunk
... and an old bugaboo from the 4.2 days: If plasma takes a long time to come
up for whatever reason, the pager settings get mangled and sometimes the
active desktop as well (one must zoom out and then zoom in on the right one to
restore).
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Hello,
On penktadienis 07 Gegužė 2010 01:59:39 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I should have some time to pitch in and help before and after the freeze
date. What can I do to make sure KMail doesn't need Akonadi when Squeeze
is released? I've been told that back-porting the Akonadi/PostgreSQL
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:49:08 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 17:58:09 Modestas Vainius wrote:
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:59:35 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
Heck, just stop kmail from migrating. Korganizer and KAddressBook
have required Akonadi since 4.2 or earlier.
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Modestas Vainius:
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 23:48:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
[...]
YOU assume that your truth is an ultimate one.
Not really. I made objective statement about KMail based on
observable facts. I also voiced an
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
Reverting to KDEPIM 4.3 is an option, as is shipping an Akonadi that
doesn't require MySQL. I know KDEPIM 4.3 works in a mostly KDE SC
4.4 environment (that's my current setup). I'll bet that
pre-Akonadi-integration KMail could work
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Modestas Vainius:
Hello,
Hello Modestas,
On penktadienis 07 Gegužė 2010 01:59:39 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I should have some time to pitch in and help before and after the
freeze date. What can I do to make sure KMail doesn't need Akonadi
when Squeeze
On Friday 07 May 2010 05:42:55 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:59:35 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
Heck, just stop kmail from migrating. Korganizer and
On Friday 07 May 2010 04:39:00 Modestas Vainius wrote:
Initial akonadi trunk packaging is at [1]. I have been using it with SQLite
for over a month now. Yet I don't use akonadi features extensively (not
even addressbook or korganizer) so I can't tell much about quality of the
code. But I can
On Friday 07 May 2010 05:53:57 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
Reverting to KDEPIM 4.3 is an option, as is shipping an Akonadi that
doesn't require MySQL. I know KDEPIM 4.3 works in a mostly KDE SC
4.4 environment (that's my current setup).
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
On Friday 07 May 2010 05:42:55 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:59:35 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
However, whether to ship akonadi trunk/beta/final of the next version
is another question which is still open. In my opinion, Akonadi
itself is
pretty mature so it might be doable.
I didn't complain well. This is the true
Hello,
On penktadienis 07 Gegužė 2010 20:02:08 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On penktadienis 07 Gegužė 2010 01:59:39 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I think that KMail requiring MySQL to function in Debian stable is a
problem. I request that the Qt/KDE packaging team take steps to ensure
On Thursday, 2010-05-06, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2010-05-05, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
I also have a history with MySQL and I *do* *not* *trust* it with my
data. = UPS or not.
Then luckily you don't have to. The only data that mysql is *storing*
(as opposed to
On Thursday, 2010-05-06, Michael Schuerig wrote:
On Wednesday 05 May 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 4.3, this is not true. From what I hear on upstream mailing
lists, this won't be true in 4.5. Upstream is already aware and
working on the issue, but it falls under new feature so
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 23.21:15 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 4.4, kmail depends on mysql-server in order to send mail. (kmail -
Akonadi - mysql-server).
Note that mysql recently split their server package into a server and a
core package, so you get a minimal mysql installation without
I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.
On 2010-05-05 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 4.4, kmail depends on mysql-server in order to send mail. (kmail -
Akonadi - mysql-server).
So you don't like the dependency to Akonadi? Too bad. As can be read on many
places, Akonadi is
there to
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 06:13:50PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
These responses are quite frustrating. I read Ana's post as please make
sure
KDE 4.4 is ready for stable. My post was KDE 4.4 is inappropriate for
stable. All the replies have been too bad, we are going to release
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Mike Bird:
On Wed May 5 2010 15:53:05 Frederik Schwarzer wrote:
How does having a kdepim that depends on mysql declare kde as
broken? Sure, many oppose to that dependency, but it works,
doesn't it?
(1) It reportedly breaks home directories stored on NFS
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 17:58:09 Modestas Vainius wrote:
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 01:54:06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
I'm still using kmail/kontact/etc. (basically kdepim) from 4.3
since I have no desire to
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Kevin Krammer:
On Thursday, 2010-05-06, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2010-05-05, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
I also have a history with MySQL and I *do* *not* *trust* it with
my data. = UPS or not.
Then luckily you don't have to.
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
Heck, just stop kmail from migrating. Korganizer and KAddressBook
have required Akonadi since 4.2 or earlier.
Again, AFAIK, kmail does not use Akonadi in KDE 4.4, it might in KDE 4.5.
Its KAddressBook that uses Akonadi by default now.
* On 2010 06 May 02:13 -0500, Diederik de Haas wrote:
I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.
On 2010-05-05 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 4.4, kmail depends on mysql-server in order to send mail. (kmail -
Akonadi - mysql-server).
So you don't like the dependency to Akonadi?
[Nate Bargmann - Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 13:28:23]
* On 2010 06 May 02:13 -0500, Diederik de Haas wrote:
I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.
On 2010-05-05 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 4.4, kmail depends on mysql-server in order to send mail. (kmail -
Akonadi -
* On 2010 06 May 07:27 -0500, Frederik Schwarzer wrote:
[Nate Bargmann - Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 13:28:23]
* On 2010 06 May 02:13 -0500, Diederik de Haas wrote:
I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.
On 2010-05-05 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 4.4, kmail depends on
Nate Bargmann wrote:
Now that my system is poised to update to KDE 4.4, I think this
is where I'll get off the train and let KDE go where it wants and I
shall go elsewhere.
Thanks for the fish.
- Nate
Free software is all about freedom:
- developers are free to assign their time to
On 2010-05-06 Nate Bargmann wrote:
So you don't like the dependency to Akonadi? Too bad.
Regardless the rationale, this seems to be an attitude that has become
very pervasive among KDE developers with the advent of KDE4 and it has
me looking seriously at the alternatives. I no longer
El Miércoles 05 Mayo 2010 17:24:49 Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org escribió:
Hi,
Given no everybody reads planet Debian, here goes a copy of
http://ekaia.org/blog/2010/05/05/kde-443-in-unstable/
Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE 4.4.3, has finally
found its way to
El Jueves 06 Mayo 2010 12:50:52 Facundo Aguilera budin...@gmail.com
escribió:
Just for add a good comment, I'm testing 4.4.3 and it working very good!!
Thanks!!
The only problem I'm having is that kmail is not searching in the full
address list when writing a new message. But i can drag
On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:49:08 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 17:58:09 Modestas Vainius wrote:
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 01:54:06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
I'm still using
On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:59:35 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
Heck, just stop kmail from migrating. Korganizer and KAddressBook
have required Akonadi since 4.2 or earlier.
Again, AFAIK, kmail does not use Akonadi in KDE 4.4.
Have
On 2010-05-06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Not true. I installed KMail from Sid earlier this week. It refused to
send mail by entering an infinite loop trying to connect to an Akonadi
server that I was not running.
KAddressBook and KOrganizer depend on Akonadi in KDE 4.3 and I believe
On Thursday 06 May 2010 02:13:06 Diederik de Haas wrote:
I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.
On 2010-05-05 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 4.4, kmail depends on mysql-server in order to send mail. (kmail -
Akonadi - mysql-server).
So you don't like the dependency to Akonadi?
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 20:40:21 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
PostgreSQL is apparently
capable of providing the proper features and Tobias Koenig has made
Akonadi working with PostgreSQL since the end of last year
(http://tokoe-kde.blogspot.com/2009/12/akonadi-
On Thursday 06 May 2010 10:50:52 Facundo Aguilera wrote:
El Miércoles 05 Mayo 2010 17:24:49 Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org escribió:
Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE 4.4.3, has
finally found its way to unstable in the last 48 hours.
Just for add a good comment, I'm
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 02:13:50 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Debian packagers don't have that much time to spend on packaging (they
are volunteers after all), and hardly they can do decisions about which
particular branch is better.
They have to package the last one
On Thursday 06 May 2010 12:47:12 Modestas Vainius wrote:
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 20:40:21 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
PostgreSQL is apparently
capable of providing the proper features and Tobias Koenig has made
Akonadi working with PostgreSQL since the end of last year
On Thursday 06 May 2010 14:33:40 Modestas Vainius wrote:
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 02:13:50 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Debian packagers don't have that much time to spend on packaging (they
are volunteers after all), and hardly they can do decisions about which
particular
* On 2010 06 May 08:33 -0500, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Nate Bargmann wrote:
Now that my system is poised to update to KDE 4.4, I think this
is where I'll get off the train and let KDE go where it wants and I
shall go elsewhere.
Thanks for the fish.
- Nate
Free software is
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 23:48:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
But whether
upstream software meets users' needs is out of Debian scope.
There's a lot to consider, since Debian needs upstream's help in addressing
bugs throughout the lifetime of stable, and that's easier
On Thursday 06 May 2010 16:44:26 you wrote:
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 23:48:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
But whether
upstream software meets users' needs is out of Debian scope.
There's a lot to consider, since Debian needs upstream's help in
addressing bugs throughout
On Thu May 6 2010 15:59:39 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I think that KMail requiring MySQL to function in Debian stable is a
problem. I request that the Qt/KDE packaging team take steps to ensure that
Debian stable users are not stranded with that situation for the lifetime
of stable.
I'm
On 2010-05-07 Mike Bird wrote:
I'm curious. When I install MySQL on a Lenny server it thereafter
automatically starts the global /var/lib/mysql MySQL server at boot time.
I thought Akonadi was intended to use a private MySQL server process
running in each users' home directory and started
On Thu May 6 2010 17:08:48 Diederik de Haas wrote:
On 2010-05-07 Mike Bird wrote:
Does installing KDE cause a global /var/lib/mysql MySQL server to run on
each workstation, even when nobody is logged in?
Not anymore, but it used to be that case.
Since
Hi,
Given no everybody reads planet Debian, here goes a copy of
http://ekaia.org/blog/2010/05/05/kde-443-in-unstable/
Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE 4.4.3, has finally
found its way to unstable in the last 48 hours.
Given KDE 4.5.0 is not expected until August, it is
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 15:24:49 Ana Guerrero wrote:
Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE 4.4.3, has finally
found its way to unstable in the last 48 hours.
Given KDE 4.5.0 is not expected until August, it is likely the next point
release, 4.4.4, will be the KDE version
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 04:21:15PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 15:24:49 Ana Guerrero wrote:
Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE 4.4.3, has finally
found its way to unstable in the last 48 hours.
Given KDE 4.5.0 is not expected until
El Miércoles, 5 de Mayo de 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. escribió:
In 4.3, this is not true. From what I hear on upstream mailing lists, this
won't be true in 4.5. Upstream is already aware and working on the issue,
but it falls under new feature so it won't be included in the 4.4.x line.
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 16:58:35 you wrote:
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 04:21:15PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 15:24:49 Ana Guerrero wrote:
Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE 4.4.3, has
finally found its way to unstable in the last 48
[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. - Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 00:54:06]
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 16:58:35 you wrote:
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 04:21:15PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 15:24:49 Ana Guerrero wrote:
Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 01:54:06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I'm still using kmail/kontact/etc. (basically kdepim) from 4.3 since I
have no desire to run yet another RDBMS on my system. (I already run
PostgreSQL, and have a number of apps that use SQLite installed.)
...
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 17:58:09 Modestas Vainius wrote:
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 01:54:06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I'm still using kmail/kontact/etc. (basically kdepim) from 4.3 since I
have no desire to run yet another RDBMS on my system. (I already run
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 17:07:16 Alejandro Exojo wrote:
El Miércoles, 5 de Mayo de 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. escribió:
In 4.3, this is not true. From what I hear on upstream mailing lists,
this won't be true in 4.5. Upstream is already aware and working on the
issue, but it falls
On Wednesday 05 May 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 4.3, this is not true. From what I hear on upstream mailing
lists, this won't be true in 4.5. Upstream is already aware and
working on the issue, but it falls under new feature so it won't
be included in the 4.4.x line.
Do you have
On Wed May 5 2010 15:53:05 Frederik Schwarzer wrote:
How does having a kdepim that depends on mysql declare kde as broken?
Sure, many oppose to that dependency, but it works, doesn't it?
(1) It reportedly breaks home directories stored on NFS servers.
(2) It's such a bad idea that KDE is
On 2010-05-05, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
I also have a history with MySQL and I *do* *not* *trust* it with my data. =
UPS or not.
Then luckily you don't have to. The only data that mysql is *storing*
(as opposed to caching) is data it still haven't been able to sync
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Also, what happened to freezing when appropriate (when it's done)? Stable
users don't want a half-baked OS.
Okay, ending this email here, because thinking about a stable Debian that
includes KDEPIM 4.4 angers and saddens me.
I agree.
Sam
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