Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-31 Thread Luc Castermans
Gents, I enjoy KDE5 desktop (testing / unstable) since quite some weeks now. Quite usable it is! Thanks for your efforts, I will use it, thereby helping to mature it. Many, many, thanks. Luc 2015-10-31 14:38 GMT+01:00 Martin Steigerwald : > Am Freitag, 30. Oktober 2015,

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 30. Oktober 2015, 10:20:58 CET schrieb Gary Dale: > On 30/10/15 04:49 AM, Tim Ruehsen wrote: > > On Friday 30 October 2015 00:09:31 Gary Dale wrote: > >> On 29/10/15 04:54 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > >>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 09:54:22 -0400 > >>> Gary Dale wrote: >

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 30. Oktober 2015, 17:57:03 CET schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Full acknowledge! > > I am not an early adopter. If I would be somebody who likes bleeding edge > software with all the risks I would be using sid.I am using debian testing > because it is supposed to be a good compromise.

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-30 Thread Tim Ruehsen
On Friday 30 October 2015 00:09:31 Gary Dale wrote: > On 29/10/15 04:54 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 09:54:22 -0400 > > Gary Dale wrote: > > > > Hello Gary, > > > >> And not wanting to rehash that old argument, the current system is > >> clearly not

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-30 Thread Tim Ruehsen
On Friday 30 October 2015 10:28:45 Carlos Kosloff wrote: > Apart from that, OK to run a full dist-upgrade now, unholding > libqt5x11extras5? I did it a few hours ago (on unstable), works smoothly so far. Tim

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-30 Thread Tim Ruehsen
I'll dist-upgrade my testing when I am back home. Just a few hours from now... but maybe someone else already knows. Tim On Friday 30 October 2015 11:09:30 Carlos Kosloff wrote: > Thanks for answer, but I am in testing, anybody tried that, or should I > be the first to take the plunge? > >

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-30 Thread Gary Dale
On 30/10/15 04:49 AM, Tim Ruehsen wrote: On Friday 30 October 2015 00:09:31 Gary Dale wrote: On 29/10/15 04:54 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 09:54:22 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: Hello Gary, And not wanting to rehash that old argument, the current system is

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-30 Thread Carlos Kosloff
Agreed, I use advanced computers which simply would not work in stable, sometimes not even in testing, kernel too old. I had to install more advanced kernel from siduction, until I could get a suitable one in testing. So for me, to use testing is simply a matter of having software that will

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-30 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Friday 30 October 2015 10:20:58 Gary Dale wrote: > I can understand why "unstable" users may want it, but that doesn't > those of us using testing are a different breed. We want to help get > things ready for the next stable release. That means helping to identify > bugs that could cause

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-30 Thread Tim Ruehsen
On Friday 30 October 2015 10:20:58 Gary Dale wrote: > On 30/10/15 04:49 AM, Tim Ruehsen wrote: > > On Friday 30 October 2015 00:09:31 Gary Dale wrote: > >> On 29/10/15 04:54 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > >>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 09:54:22 -0400 > >>> Gary Dale wrote: > >>> > >>>

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-30 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Am 30.10.2015 um 15:20 schrieb Gary Dale: > I can understand why "unstable" users may want it, but that doesn't those of > us using testing are a different breed. We want to help get things ready for > the next stable release. That means helping to identify bugs that could cause > problems for

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-30 Thread Gary Dale
On 30/10/15 11:10 AM, Diederik de Haas wrote: On Friday 30 October 2015 10:20:58 Gary Dale wrote: I can understand why "unstable" users may want it, but that doesn't those of us using testing are a different breed. We want to help get things ready for the next stable release. That means helping

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-30 Thread Christian Hilberg
Hi Carlos, Am Freitag 30 Oktober 2015, 11:09:30 schrieb Carlos Kosloff: > Thanks for answer, but I am in testing, anybody tried that, or should I > be the first to take the plunge? I've just updated testing. My SDDM starts up properly again, and I can log in / out / back in / out again

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-29 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/10/15 05:41 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:27:04 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: Hello Gary, I realize that KDE is going through a lot of changes right now, but can't stuff be kept out of testing until it is somewhat usable? That's not how migration from

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 09:54:22 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: Hello Gary, >And not wanting to rehash that old argument, the current system is >clearly not working. Surely all the bright people maintaining Debian Debian is run by humans. Humans, being humans, make mistakes. It's

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-29 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Sorry Gary for sending it to your private mail, my mistake! On Thursday 29 October 2015 09:54:22 Gary Dale wrote: [snip] > > That's not how migration from sid works. As well you know. > > And not wanting to rehash that old argument, the current system is > clearly not working. Surely all the

Re: plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-29 Thread Gary Dale
On 29/10/15 04:54 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 09:54:22 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: Hello Gary, And not wanting to rehash that old argument, the current system is clearly not working. Surely all the bright people maintaining Debian Debian is run by humans.

plasma desktop broken again :(

2015-10-28 Thread Gary Dale
The latest round of Debian/Stretch updates proved to be a disaster. Sddm has stopped working as has the plasma-desktop when I used lightdm instead. Sddm never brings up a login panel (or anything else) while plasma-desktop doesn't get past bringing up the initial progress panel (showing no