Re: svn layout confusion

2005-09-07 Thread Horms
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 10:06:45AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 15:20 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:51:06AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > > Ok, so now that we have dists/sid and dists/trunk (which is for > > > development > > > and experimental

Re: svn layout confusion

2005-09-06 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 10:06:45AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 15:20 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:51:06AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > > Ok, so now that we have dists/sid and dists/trunk (which is for > > > development > > > and experimental

Re: svn layout confusion

2005-09-06 Thread Andres Salomon
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 15:20 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:51:06AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > Ok, so now that we have dists/sid and dists/trunk (which is for development > > and experimental stuff); how is this actually supposed to work? I > > understand > > the scen

Re: svn layout confusion

2005-09-06 Thread Andres Salomon
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 22:25 +0900, Horms wrote: > On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:51:06AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > Ok, so now that we have dists/sid and dists/trunk (which is for development > > and experimental stuff); how is this actually supposed to work? I > > understand > > the scenario w

Re: svn layout confusion

2005-09-06 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:51:06AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > Ok, so now that we have dists/sid and dists/trunk (which is for development > and experimental stuff); how is this actually supposed to work? I understand > the scenario when we have 2.6.12 in sid and 2.6.13rc in trunk; stick > any

Re: svn layout confusion

2005-09-06 Thread Horms
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:51:06AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > Ok, so now that we have dists/sid and dists/trunk (which is for development > and experimental stuff); how is this actually supposed to work? I understand > the scenario when we have 2.6.12 in sid and 2.6.13rc in trunk; stick > any

svn layout confusion

2005-09-06 Thread Andres Salomon
Ok, so now that we have dists/sid and dists/trunk (which is for development and experimental stuff); how is this actually supposed to work? I understand the scenario when we have 2.6.12 in sid and 2.6.13rc in trunk; stick any new development stuff in trunk, backport to sid if desired, do sid relea

Re: Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-09-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 07:09:36PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:10:19PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > No reply? > > Bastian Was there something to reply ? I didn't get the impression that you gave any valuable reason, and "read again" is not something which i unders

Re: Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-09-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:10:19PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: No reply? Bastian -- We do not colonize. We conquer. We rule. There is no other way for us. -- Rojan, "By Any Other Name", stardate 4657.5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Re: Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-08-31 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 07:12:57PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Ok, explain me why you want to have it part of the kernel subdir then, if we > are going to empty it of any further content ? Why exists arch and utils? Just move anything up. > I really don't get why you are opposing this move, so ho

Re: Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-08-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 07:11:12PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:07:02PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Thanks, we can now go ahead and do the cleanup. > > The linux-2.6 move was not part of this dicision. Ok, explain me why you want to have it part of the kernel subdir

Re: Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-08-31 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:07:02PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Thanks, we can now go ahead and do the cleanup. The linux-2.6 move was not part of this dicision. Bastian -- Totally illogical, there was no chance. -- Spock, "The Galileo Seven", stardate 2822.3

New SVN Layout ...

2005-08-31 Thread Sven Luther
Hi all, We finally solved our difficulties, and i did the moving around to hopefulyl their definite place for a while at least of the different things. We now have : dists/sarge dists/sarge-security dists/sid dists/trunk dists/common releases people releases is the old tag dir, wh

Re: Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-08-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:15:56PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:43:24AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Waldi, i would like your express comment on this, but i believe from your > > previous comments that this should suite you. > > And please rename tags to releases or so

Re: Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-08-31 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:43:24AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Waldi, i would like your express comment on this, but i believe from your > previous comments that this should suite you. And please rename tags to releases or so. We only have release sources in it and this makes that clear. Bastian

Re: Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-08-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:06:15PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:43:24AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > We then can add a : > > dists/common > > For stuff common to all distributions, like the utils and so on, but which > > can > > live also under the the individual dis

Re: Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-08-31 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:43:24AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > We then can add a : > dists/common > For stuff common to all distributions, like the utils and so on, but which can > live also under the the individual distribs if we need them. We don't have anything really common. The versions bet

Re: Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-08-31 Thread Horms
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:43:24AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:49:59PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > Hi, > > > > with the advent of the unified kernel package for 2.6 some of the > > original SVN layout has become irrelevant. As a background her

Final decision, please vote ... Re: SVN layout

2005-08-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:49:59PM +0900, Horms wrote: > Hi, > > with the advent of the unified kernel package for 2.6 some of the > original SVN layout has become irrelevant. As a background here is > how things used to look. Ok, this mess can no longer continue, since it is pa

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-30 Thread Horms
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:15:23PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 15:33 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 05:41:34PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 05:53:38PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:53:41PM +0900,

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-30 Thread Andres Salomon
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 15:33 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 05:41:34PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 05:53:38PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:53:41PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > > [...] > > > > > > svk m

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 05:41:34PM +0900, Horms wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 05:53:38PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:53:41PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > [...] > > > > > svk may be different, if so, > > > > > this is a excellent time to di

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-30 Thread Horms
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 05:53:38PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:53:41PM +0900, Horms wrote: > [...] > > > > svk may be different, if so, > > > > this is a excellent time to discuss that. > > > > > > It just gets crazy if it can't find merg

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-28 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:49:59PM +0900, Horms wrote: > Personally, in the context of the two questions above, I advocate > trunk/linux-2.6 > trunk/linux-2.6-experimental I opt for this solution, too. Best regards Frederik Schueler -- ENOSIG signature.asc Description: Digital s

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-26 Thread Andres Salomon
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:53:41PM +0900, Horms wrote: [...] > > > svk may be different, if so, > > > this is a excellent time to discuss that. > > > > It just gets crazy if it can't find merge points. > > Could you elaborate a little. I think you are the only one us

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-26 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:53:41PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > Depends on what you mean with "developed". We saw that it is not > > possible to get regular testbuilds of the repository version and I broke > > 3 uploads because of this. If we want to be able to regulary push > > working versions into te

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:56:14PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 11:33:08AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:54:30PM +0900, Horms wrote: > >> > > This layout removes the indicator, where changes may be int

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Horms
er of different versions of different kernels. For some sarge is the head branch, for some sid is, and for some experimental is. The typical SVN layout (which people seem mildly obsessed with), puts whatever happens to be the head branch in trunk, and everything else in branch - in our case per-distribut

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Otavio Salvador
Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 11:33:08AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:54:30PM +0900, Horms wrote: >> > > This layout removes the indicator, where changes may be introduced >> > > without breaking too much. >> > experimental seems like a pr

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:02:13PM +0900, Horms wrote: > I believe part of the proposal is that development kernels are > targeted for experimental. And the sid ones are a bit more stable. This applies only to some packages. Bastian -- Knowledge, sir, should be free to all! -- H

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Horms
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 02:14:53PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:02:13PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > I believe part of the proposal is that development kernels are > > targeted for experimental. And the sid ones are a bit more stable. > > This applies only to some packages.

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Horms
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 11:33:08AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:54:30PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > > This layout removes the indicator, where changes may be introduced > > > without breaking too much. > > experimental seems like a pretty fair indication. > > Only if you do

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:54:30PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > This layout removes the indicator, where changes may be introduced > > without breaking too much. > experimental seems like a pretty fair indication. Only if you do regular cleanups of not longer used trees. Otherwise you remain with sid/

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 11:05:35AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > But we should begin to disable arches where we don't > have a possitive result. Hmm, this will not hold building but non-working kernels away, so it makes no sense. Bastian -- The more complex the mind, the greater

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 10:46:43AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > They could be releases/sid/linux-nonfree-2.6 and > releases/sid/arch/mips/linux-patch-2.6.12-mips ? What do you want to do with the contents of utils? We currently differentiate between kernel themself, documentation and support utils.

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Horms
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 10:35:11AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:56:55AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > main > > main/sid > > main/sid/linux-2.6 > > main/experimental/linux-2.6 > > main/sarge > releases > > people > > This layout removes the indicator, where c

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Horms
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 10:32:59AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:49:59PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > 1. Should linux-2.6 go in trunk/kernel/ or just trunk. > >Given that we no longer need source and per-arch directories, > >it seems logical to just move it up to trun

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 10:32:59AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:49:59PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > 1. Should linux-2.6 go in trunk/kernel/ or just trunk. > >Given that we no longer need source and per-arch directories, > >it seems logical to just move it up to trun

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:56:55AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > main > main/sid > main/sid/linux-2.6 > main/experimental/linux-2.6 > main/sarge releases > people This layout removes the indicator, where changes may be introduced without breaking too much. Bastian -- Humans do claim a

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:49:59PM +0900, Horms wrote: > 1. Should linux-2.6 go in trunk/kernel/ or just trunk. >Given that we no longer need source and per-arch directories, >it seems logical to just move it up to trunk/ linux-nonfree-2.6 and linux-patch-2.6.12-mips are missing from your

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Horms
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:56:55AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:49:59PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > Personally, in the context of the two questions above, I advocate > > trunk/linux-2.6 > > trunk/linux-2.6-experimental > > I vote for this also, and would probably vote for

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Horms
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:58:44AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > oh, and additional point, could we stop moving things around without > a prior discussion on this list in the future? I think that would be an excellent idea. Especaially for anything that is in unstable. -- Horms -- To UNSU

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:49:59PM +0900, Horms wrote: > Personally, in the context of the two questions above, I advocate > trunk/linux-2.6 > trunk/linux-2.6-experimental I vote for this also, and would probably vote for moving the sarge and co branches here too. > However I am happy with pr

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Christoph Hellwig
oh, and additional point, could we stop moving things around without a prior discussion on this list in the future? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Christoph Hellwig
> But right now there are two problems that need to be resolved > so we know where things are supposed to go. > > 1. Should linux-2.6 go in trunk/kernel/ or just trunk. >Given that we no longer need source and per-arch directories, >it seems logical to just move it up to trunk/ >But t

SVN layout

2005-08-25 Thread Horms
Hi, with the advent of the unified kernel package for 2.6 some of the original SVN layout has become irrelevant. As a background here is how things used to look. trunk/kernel/source/kernel-source-2.6.8/ .../kernel-source-2.6.10/ .../kernel-source-2.6.11

New SVN layout.

2004-07-11 Thread Sven Luther
Hello, as explained earlier, i moved the subversion layout to be : kernel/trunk/kernel/powerpc kernel/trunk/kernel/source kernel/trunk/kernel-2.4/powerpc kernel/trunk/utils/initrd-tools and then the tags to somethign like. kernel/tags/kernel/powerpc/2.6.7-3 iand the branches to :