Re: KDrill - YAL

1999-07-07 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 12:02:18PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Fabien Ninoles wrote: > > > > b) Full source code [binaries optional] > > >You may choose to provide source modifications, and binaries based > > >on those modifica

Re: IBM public license

1999-07-07 Thread bruce
From: Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I thought I shared that meaning with everyone else on the list. I sometimes see the need to make things very clear because there are people on the list with widely differing levels of sophistication as far as license interpretation is concerned.

Re: SUMMARY: Freeness of Java: decision needs to be taken

1999-07-07 Thread Nicholas Lee
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > If IBM doesn't re-license Jikes. > > I've update the proposed Java policy in that respect. Almost all of the > Java stuff shuld go into contrib (because most of them fail to compile > with guavac or to run with kaffe) and I'll fill in bug report

Re: IBM public license

1999-07-07 Thread Richard Braakman
Henning Makholm wrote: > > Hmm, but it does not say "it must be made available _solely_ under > > this Agreement". > > An interesting word game, but I think that a permission to relicense > a work under arbitrary terms needs to be a little more explicit than > this. Well... you don't _need_ permi

Re: IBM public license

1999-07-07 Thread Henning Makholm
Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Henning Makholm wrote: > > > Hmm, but it does not say "it must be made available _solely_ under > > > this Agreement". > > An interesting word game, but I think that a permission to relicense > > a work under arbitrary terms needs to be a little more

RE: Bug#40937: omniorb: Freeness?

1999-07-07 Thread Brent Fulgham
> -Original Message- > From: J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 2:29 PM > To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Bug#40937: omniorb: Freeness? > > > Package: omniorb > Version: 2.7.1-7 > Severity: important > > T

Re: Bug#40937: omniorb: Freeness?

1999-07-07 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:45:27 -0700, Brent Fulgham wrote: >OmniORB and TAO both are licensed as Free -- GPL/LGPL combinations by >their respective creators. Consequently, omniorb and TAO have >historically been deemed "Free". > >However, we recently realized that the followi

RE: Bug#40937: omniorb: Freeness?

1999-07-07 Thread Brent Fulgham
>>However, we recently realized that the following licensing terms >>were present in the IDL compiler, which contains some SUN Microsystems >>code: > >Is the IDL compiler a separate part of the OmniORB and TAO packages, or do >they contain GPL-ed changes for it? (If it's the latter, I t

Re: Bug#40937: omniorb: Freeness?

1999-07-07 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 12:17:21 -0700, Brent Fulgham wrote: > >Is the IDL compiler a separate part of the OmniORB and TAO packages, or > >do they contain GPL-ed changes for it? (If it's the latter, I think it's > >the same regrettable situation as KDE, i.e. not redistributable in binary > >form) >

Re: Bug#40937: omniorb: Freeness?

1999-07-07 Thread Henning Makholm
"J.H.M. Dassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >However, we recently realized that the following licensing terms > >were present in the IDL compiler, which contains some SUN Microsystems > >code: > Is the IDL compiler a separate part of the OmniORB and TAO packages, or do > they contai

Re: Bug#40937: omniorb: Freeness?

1999-07-07 Thread othman
Hi, Just some clarifications... On 7 Jul, J.H.M. Dassen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:45:27 -0700, Brent Fulgham wrote: > >OmniORB and TAO both are licensed as Free -- GPL/LGPL combinations by > >their respective creators. Consequently, omniorb and TAO have > >historically

Re: Bug#40937: omniorb: Freeness?

1999-07-07 Thread Richard Braakman
Brent Fulgham wrote: > What I would really like to do is place the omniorb and omniorb-doc files > in "main", since they can be used as-is with the various libraries in the > Berlin project as an entirely free product. The development portions of > these projects would have to go in contrib or non

RE: Bug#40937: omniorb: Freeness?

1999-07-07 Thread Brent Fulgham
> What is the relationship between the development portions and > the rest? > Is it possible to compile the free parts without using any > non-free parts? > No -- I think that many of the libraries link against Skeletons created by the IDL compiler. You can't create new CORBA objects without th

Re: Bug#40937: omniorb: Freeness?

1999-07-07 Thread Henning Makholm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Efforts are underway to try convince Sun to remove the problem clause > in their licensing terms. Which is laudable, but the odds are not good. We've seen various versions of these clauses in every Sun license that has been mentioned on the list since it was created.