Re: Fwd: figlet license change from Artistic to Clarified Artistic or Artistic 2.0?

2004-11-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004, John Cowan wrote: > Francesco Poli scripsit: > > And that is probably another issue with contract-ish licenses: who is > > going to accept contracts? ftp-masters and all the mirror operators? > > That sounds problematic... > > You are already distributing code under the MPL li

Re: Fwd: figlet license change from Artistic to Clarified Artistic or Artistic 2.0?

2004-11-04 Thread John Cowan
Francesco Poli scripsit: > And that is probably another issue with contract-ish licenses: who is > going to accept contracts? ftp-masters and all the mirror operators? > That sounds problematic... You are already distributing code under the MPL license, which is a contract, in debian-stable main.

Re: Fwd: figlet license change from Artistic to Clarified Artistic or Artistic 2.0?

2004-11-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:49:12 -0500 John Cowan wrote: > Francesco Poli scripsit: > > > a) releasing the work under a real copyright license grant (such as > > the Expat a.k.a. MIT license http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt) > > The AFL *is* a "real copyright license grant"; it already grants >

Re: Fwd: figlet license change from Artistic to Clarified Artistic or Artistic 2.0?

2004-11-04 Thread John Cowan
Glenn Maynard scripsit: > If you can point to a US statute or case law echoing the above, or in > some way suggesting that it's relevant to the US, then it might help > give me the specific question for the FSF that I'm hunting for. Well, Lynn v. Raney (1964 OK 212, 400 P.2d 805) is a real-proper

Re: Fwd: figlet license change from Artistic to Clarified Artistic or Artistic 2.0?

2004-11-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 03:26:54PM -0500, John Cowan wrote: > The whole definition of "bare license" means a license that is unsupported > by consideration (i.e. not a contract): > > A bare license must be executed by the party to whom it is given > in person, and cannot be made over o

Re: mass bug filing for unmet dependencies

2004-11-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 07:11:33PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > How do you define what is part of our system, and from what you derive > this definition? Fundamentally, everything we put in Main is a part of our system. I get that definition from looking at debian cds, installing debian on machin

Re: mass bug filing for unmet dependencies

2004-11-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 04:42:00PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> So you say that non-free software is OK with you as long as you can >> ignore it's running on your system? Which part of the policy or SC >> justifies this theory? > >No, I've been saying that non-free softw

Re: Fwd: figlet license change from Artistic to Clarified Artistic or Artistic 2.0?

2004-11-04 Thread John Cowan
Francesco Poli scripsit: > a) releasing the work under a real copyright license grant (such as the > Expat a.k.a. MIT license http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt) The AFL *is* a "real copyright license grant"; it already grants everything the MIT license does and more. > *and* > > b) offering

Re: mass bug filing for unmet dependencies

2004-11-04 Thread Raul Miller
> >> >On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 01:51:56AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > >> >> So you say that non-free software is OK with you as long as you can > >> >> pretend it's not there? Which part of the policy or SC justifies this > >> >> theory? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >If I ignore something as a par

Re: mass bug filing for unmet dependencies

2004-11-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 01:51:56AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> >> So you say that non-free software is OK with you as long as you can >> >> pretend it's not there? Which part of the policy or SC justifies this >> >> theory? >If I ignore something as a part of a syst