gammu: gnapplet.sis requires packages which are not in our archive (was: distributing precompiled binaries)

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
reopen 521448 ! retitle gammu: gnapplet.sis requires packages which are not in our archive stop Justification: Policy 2.2 This email is to reopen bug 521448. As I understand the close message, while gammu's source does contain source code for gnapplet.sis, it requires "packages which are not in

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli wrote: > As Joe Smith has just explained in more detail, one of the two license > versions includes a more specific requirement to embed a verbatim > sentence in user documentation: I cannot find any such restriction in > the GNU LGPL v2.1... I was looking at the December 2001 vers

Re: Judgement about the EUPL

2009-03-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:36:02 +0100 Miriam Ruiz wrote: > EUPL v1.1 full text: Thanks Miriam! > > European Union Public Licence (EUPL) v1.1 > > Copyright (c) 2007 The European Community 2007 [...] >5. Obligations of the Licensee > The grant of the rights mention

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Anthony W. Youngman [090329 12:03]: > >I concur the problem is less severe with documentation than with > >programs, as translating to text and reformating is often not that big > >a loss for documentation. But I think in most cases only a .pdf is still to > >hard to change to call it free. > >

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:43:14 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:54:00 + MJ Ray wrote: > > [...] > > > What extra restrictions? The exceptions looked like actual > > > exceptions, assuming that "identify their use of FLTK" is in the > > > LGPL-2.1... which i

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread Joe Smith
"Giacomo A. Catenazzi" wrote in message news:49c8da6f.7050...@debian.org... 4. You do not have to provide a copy of the FLTK license with programs that are linked to the FLTK library, nor do you have to identify the FLTK license in your program or documentation as requ

Re: Judgement about the EUPL

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Philipp Kern asked: > was the EUPL[1] previously reviewed already? I found this answer at http://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?query=eupl+draft It appears to have a shed-load of problems, but the EUPL is trivially upgradable to a number of good free software licences (section 5 and appendix),

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:33:59 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > It seems to me that bug #521448 is an attempt to report this [...] > > I am not sure whether the bug should be reopened or maybe another bug > > report should be filed against gammu. > > What do others think? > >

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:54:00 + MJ Ray wrote: > [...] > > What extra restrictions? The exceptions looked like actual > > exceptions, assuming that "identify their use of FLTK" is in the > > LGPL-2.1... which it appears to be, in section 1. > > Could you please elaborate

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Steve Langasek wrote: [...] > A recent (Dec 2008) addition with no grounding in the DFSG. If I see PDFs > being rejected with this rationale when it's not a question of license > compliance (PDFs distributed under the GPL certainly have to have source > with them, but that's not a DFSG matter), I

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:57:49 + MJ Ray wrote: > [...] > > I found gnapplet with sources in the contrib bit of the gammu tree. > > https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=gammu;ver=1.23.1-2;arch=i386;stamp=1236036416 > > doesn't seem to mention it being rebuilt. > > Can i

Re: GFDL 1.1 or later

2009-03-29 Thread Leandro Doctors
2009/3/28 Samuel Thibault : > I have a package whose documentation is licensed under GFDL 1.1 > or any later without invariant sections, Front/Back-Cover texts, > Acknowledgement or Dedication sections. > > How should I formulate the copyright file?  Say that Debian ships it > under the GFDL 1.2 an

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 11:02 +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <20090329083338.ga28...@pcpool00.mathematik.uni-freiburg.de>, > Bernhard R. Link writes > >> - only that they output the same documentation. > > > >I concur the problem is less severe with documentation than with > >progra

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:02:07 +0100 Anthony W. Youngman wrote: [...] > imho, the difference between plain text and a plain pdf is minimal. If, > however, the pdf has loads of embedded links etc ... Please reconsider your claim after thinking about typesetting, formatting, mathematical formulas, p

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <20090329083338.ga28...@pcpool00.mathematik.uni-freiburg.de>, Bernhard R. Link writes - only that they output the same documentation. I concur the problem is less severe with documentation than with programs, as translating to text and reformating is often not that big a loss for do

Re: GFDL 1.1 or later

2009-03-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <20090329090239.gw7...@anguilla.noreply.org>, Peter Palfrader writes I disagree. I have received X under several licenses, and it is my choice which of those to pick. When I re-distribute it I can redistribute it under one or any number of those licenses, but I don't have to redistr

Re: GFDL 1.1 or later

2009-03-29 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <20090328194920.gk5...@const.famille.thibault.fr>, Samuel > Thibault writes > >Hello, > > > >I have a package whose documentation is licensed under GFDL 1.1 > >or any later without invariant sections, Front/Back-Cover texts, > >Acknowl

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Ben Finney
"Bernhard R. Link" writes: > * Steve Langasek [090328 23:46]: > > A PDF as a program is its own source. You're talking about the > > preferred format for modification of *documentation*, not a > > program. There's no reason to expect that two different versions > > of mumble2pdf are going to out

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve Langasek [090328 23:46]: > And this has all been discussed before. Obviously not often enough for you. > > Also, a PDF is a program for a certain type of interpreter. > > A PDF as a program is its own source. You're talking about the preferred > format for modification of *documentation