node.js has a trademark now

2011-04-28 Thread Jérémy Lal
Hi, nodejs is packaged in debian [0], along with libnode-* modules [1] Today the company owning nodejs announced a new trademark policy [2]. I understand that : * the logo is not a problem, i just have to remove it from the source package (it is not in the binary package) * the TM symbol must be

Re: NASA Open Source Agreement

2011-04-28 Thread Walter Landry
Paul Wise wrote: > Firstly, it would be much better if they used an existing, > well-understood free license rather than reinventing the legal > wheel. Indeed. I believe the French government standardized on CECILL, which can be trivially converted to GPL. > Secondly, I was under the impression

Re: Auto-acceptance of license by download a problem for 'main'?

2011-04-28 Thread Hendrik Weimer
Michael Hanke writes: > | Your contribution of software and/or data to (including prior > | to the date of the first publication of this Agreement, each a > | "Contribution") and/or downloading, copying, modifying, displaying, > | distributing or use of any software and/or data from > |

Re: NASA Open Source Agreement

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Wise
Firstly, it would be much better if they used an existing, well-understood free license rather than reinventing the legal wheel. Secondly, I was under the impression that all US Government works are supposed to be public domain, under what circumstances is this license used? Third, I quote the fu

Re: Auto-acceptance of license by download a problem for 'main'?

2011-04-28 Thread Karl Goetz
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:46:04 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote: > On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:39:05 +1000 Karl Goetz wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:42:32 -0400 > > Michael Hanke wrote: > > > > > Dear -legal, > > > > > > I'm currently looking into packaging a software with a license > > > that has th

Re: Auto-acceptance of license by download a problem for 'main'?

2011-04-28 Thread Karl Goetz
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:20:46 -0400 Michael Hanke wrote: > [I've set reply-to to me, because I'm not subscribed to this list] > > Karl Goetz wrote: > > > > > > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/slicer/slicer_3.6.3~svn16075-2/slicer.copyright > > > > I find the slicer licence rea

NASA Open Source Agreement

2011-04-28 Thread Jeremy Wright
I've asked the OSI license mailing list about this, and I wanted to get the Debian take on it. I didn't see this discussion anywhere else on this list already. Sorry if I missed it. The OSI has approved version 1.3 of the NASA Open Source Agreement (NOSA), but the FSF has a problem with section 3,

Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Walter Landry wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > ...as far as I understand, Eben Moglen believes Option *3* to be > > GPL-compatible (see the message that started this thread). > > Now we are talking about Option 2. > > Actually, in the referenced w

Re: Lawyer request stop from downloading Debian

2011-04-28 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Jeff Epler wrote: > Are you saying that nothing inside a (complete) debian ISO image > containing GPLv2 software in executable form fulfills either the > 3.b) "written offer" or 3.c) "information you received" conditions > for distribution? That if I give someone a CDR with a >

Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Walter Landry
Francesco Poli wrote: > On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Walter Landry wrote: >> > Option 2 >> > > [...] >> I would say that this option fails the DFSG because it only allows >> copying and modification of "reasonable" amounts. > > Agreed, again. > >> It would also be incompatib

Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:41:40 +0200 Lachlan Hunt wrote: > Paul Wise wrote: > > Is there any chance they would use an existing license instead of > > reinventing the legal wheel? > > Many of us are arguing that the W3C should do just that with suggestions > to use MIT, BSD or CC0. These are great

Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Walter Landry wrote: > Walter Landry wrote: > > Option 1 > > As noted, the clause > >HOWEVER, the publication of derivative works of this document for >use as a technical specification is expressly prohibited. > > makes the license incompatible

Re: Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 at 13:27:48 +0200, Lachlan Hunt wrote: This would seem to imply a field of use restriction against anything that is not covered by those 3 exceptions. In particular, this does not explicitly permit others to fork the specification. It seems from the linked pages that one go

Re: Auto-acceptance of license by download a problem for 'main'?

2011-04-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:39:05 +1000 Karl Goetz wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:42:32 -0400 > Michael Hanke wrote: > > > Dear -legal, > > > > I'm currently looking into packaging a software with a license that > > has the following clause: > > > > | Your contribution of software and/or data to X

Re: Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 at 17:41:40 +0200, Lachlan Hunt wrote: > Paul Wise wrote: > >Is there any chance they would use an existing license instead of > >reinventing the legal wheel? > > Many of us are arguing that the W3C should do just that with > suggestions to use MIT, BSD or CC0. I'm glad to hea

Re: Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Paul Wise wrote: Is there any chance they would use an existing license instead of reinventing the legal wheel? Many of us are arguing that the W3C should do just that with suggestions to use MIT, BSD or CC0. But they are being stubborn with several members remaining opposed to the idea of a

Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 at 13:27:48 +0200, Lachlan Hunt wrote: > This would seem to imply a field of use restriction > against anything that is not covered by those 3 exceptions. In > particular, this does not explicitly permit others to fork the > specification. It seems from the linked pages that o

Re: Auto-acceptance of license by download a problem for 'main'?

2011-04-28 Thread Michael Hanke
[I've set reply-to to me, because I'm not subscribed to this list] Karl Goetz wrote: > > > > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/slicer/slicer_3.6.3~svn16075-2/slicer.copyright > > I find the slicer licence really dificult to understand, but i guess > we're heading down a tangent b

Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Wise
Is there any chance they would use an existing license instead of reinventing the legal wheel? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On 2011-04-28 16:27, Walter Landry wrote: Walter Landry wrote: Option 2 ... you may: 2. copy and modify reasonable portions of this document for inclusion in software ... 3. include reasonable portions of this document in research materials and publications.

Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Walter Landry
Walter Landry wrote: > Option 1 As noted, the clause HOWEVER, the publication of derivative works of this document for use as a technical specification is expressly prohibited. makes the license incompatible with the DFSG, so I will not spend any time on any other parts. > Option 2 > --

Re: Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Walter Landry
Lachlan Hunt wrote: > Hi, > The W3C and the HTML WG are currently negotiating a new copyright > licence for the HTML specifications, and I would like to get some > clarification about whether or not the proposed licence is compatible > with the GPL and the Debian Free Software Guidelines.

Re: Lawyer request stop from downloading Debian

2011-04-28 Thread Jeff Epler
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:36:37AM -0700, Ken Arromdee wrote: > On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Jeff Epler wrote: > >I'm trying to figure out how transmitting a range of bytes in a > >torrent is different than transmitting a range of bytes in response to > >e.g., an FTP REST or an HTTP byte-range request. >

Question about GPL and DFSG Compatibility of a Proposed Amendment to the W3C Document Licence

2011-04-28 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Hi, The W3C and the HTML WG are currently negotiating a new copyright licence for the HTML specifications, and I would like to get some clarification about whether or not the proposed licence is compatible with the GPL and the Debian Free Software Guidelines. The proposed licence is Option