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Moshe Piekarski writes:
> On 4/10/19 7:50 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > * If the formulation “please do foo” is an enforcible *condition* on the
> > grant, then there are several such enforcible conditions that make
> > this work non-free:
> Given that the wordplay packa
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> Wordplay Version 7.22 Evans A Criswell 03-20-96
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> This program wa
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Jens Axboe writes:
> On 2/11/19 11:27 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > If, on the other hand, the file is to be free software, there would need
> > to be a clear grant of some free software license to that work.
>
> FWIW, fio.c includes the following mention:
>
> * The lic
ll came always |
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ll came always |
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Sebastian Andrzej Siewior writes:
> On December 7, 2018 6:04:22 AM UTC, Ben Finney wrote:
> >Is the grant of license somewhere in the Git repository to be examined?
>
> So the readme file
> https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/master/README
>
> has this:
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> T
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n this forum; it is with the
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Ben Finney writes:
> To the extent that text is derived from the GNU LGPL, it is a copyright
> violation:
I didn't explain well enough why I was including some of the text.
This is from the GNU LGPL v2.1:
> Copyright (C) 1991, 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc. […]
>
work in Debian.
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ausibly, this would exclude the work from
Debian.
When you can describe more we can judge the conditions better.
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> Ben Finney writes ("Re: Bug#874295: Not a bug"):
> > (Yes, I think a web browser should not download and execute
> > arbitrary JavaScript either. That one problem remains unaddressed is
> > not a justification for the same problem elsewhere
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Ian Jackson writes:
> Ben Finney writes ("Re: French gov open license"):
> > More precisely, “pass DFSG” is not something we can ask of licenses.
> > Rather, the DFSG are for evaluating a *work* proposed for entry to
> > Debian.
> > […]
>
> I thi
roposed for entry
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work. This would remove the doubts raised by the current unclear
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the source
files that makes the work clearly DFSG-free, then the severity should be
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must not use (or derive from) those non-free parts in
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well-understood license, but I don't see that this one causes any
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Ian Jackson writes:
> Ben Finney writes ("Re: unknown license for package/debian/* in d/copyright
> in adopted package"):
> > Are there messages in that file that could be removed? I typically
> > try to get a single message from the copyright holder, that
sound principle and |
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ears to me to be no problem for the DFSG.
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Ian Jackson writes:
> Ben Finney writes ("Re: unknown license for package/debian/* in d/copyright
> in adopted package"):
> > The principle is to consider what a hypothetical future package
> > maintainer, or FTP master or recipient, will need to have to verify
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Francesco Poli writes:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:07:09 +1100 Ben Finney wrote:
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> [...]
> > I believe there are actively-enforced patents on DVD-CSS that
> > prohibit distribution of, for example, free software that opens
> > files encrypted with that scheme.
>
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tool not redistributable at all by the Debian
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icense at
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Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS"
basis, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the
License for the specific language governing rights and limitations under
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Charles Plessy writes:
> Le Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:21:37AM +1100, Ben Finney a écrit :
> > Ian Jackson writes:
> >
> > > I'm afraid you'll have to go back to the authors/copyrightholders
> > > and get them to fix the licence for this particular pro
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everyone
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e that work under a free license, before proposing
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r to certify the origin of
the contribution http://developercertificate.org/>.
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Mattia Rizzolo writes:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 06:10:57AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > This issue should be resolved by the upstream distributor, as I
> > agree with you that they are not compliant with the conditions of
> > the license. You may want to have that discus
Mattia Rizzolo writes:
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 07:52:18AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Mattia Rizzolo writes:
> >
> > > What I'm saying is that IMHO the only license requirement (the
> > > second paragraph of it that you reported above, about includin
your right to say it.” —Evelyn Beatrice Hall, _The Friends of |
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.
In short: this does not IMO disqualify the work from conforming to the
DFSG.
Thank you for taking software freedom seriously for Debian recipients.
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