Re: "Open Source" Motif

2000-05-16 Thread David Johnson
ware. If this was the original author who did this, no problem, as the MIT and BSD licenses don't care as long as you keep their terms. But if you add BSD code to someone else's GPL code, you could be in trouble since the BSD license adds an additional requirement to distribute an addit

Re: "Open Source" Motif

2000-05-16 Thread David Johnson
s that since information is infinitely reproducible at zero cost it should be free, then it naturally follows that any software, once free, is always free regardless of any microsoftian schemes. The problem with the MS Kerberos fiasco is not the closed source implementation, but the lack of open specific

Re: "Open Source" Motif

2000-05-16 Thread David Johnson
only? Their cash cow would remain intact, but their software would be fully Open Source, as well as Free Software. -- David Johnson... _ http://www.usermode.org

Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-02-02 Thread David Johnson
rious, how do they intend to find out which people are not distributing code? How could they possibly know? I think what they are attempting to do with Section 6c is to eliminate "private" distributions. The Corel beta test comes to mind. IMHO, it's a lot less irksome than those freeware licenses that say "for personal use only." David Johnson

Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-02-02 Thread David Johnson
c linkage. The QPL does not impose its own license terms upon applications that link to it (only that they be open source). Accepting a QPLd bugfix to Qt does not suddenly make KDE a QPLd application. If Troll Tech chooses to only accept bugfixes assignable to Troll Tech, it affects nobody but Troll Tech. David Johnson

Re: On interpreting licences (was: KDE not in Debian?)

2000-02-01 Thread David Johnson
Raul Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 10:48:20AM -0800, David Johnson wrote: > > I have put this opinion forth (that Qt is distinct from the > > application and not a module) in the past, but each and every time > > I have met with immense disagreement and

Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-02-01 Thread David Johnson
ll not let you subvert my copyright or licensing. Just as I have to follow your rules when working on your applications, you have to follow my rules with my stuff, and follow Trolls rules for Qt. I just don't see what the problem is. David Johnson

Re: On interpreting licences (was: KDE not in Debian?)

2000-02-01 Thread David Johnson
nd too see the obvious? Anybody please explain. I have put this opinion forth (that Qt is distinct from the application and not a module) in the past, but each and every time I have met with immense disagreement and vile language, so that I have become "gun shy" and have refrained from stati

Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-02-01 Thread David Johnson
copy if they ask. The QPL is completely silent on personal uses, disallows "private" distributions, and is hunky-dory with public distributions. David Johnson

Re: Was Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-02-01 Thread David Johnson
L instead of GPL. And once they are included, non-GPL KDE apps can be included as well, such as a lot of KOffice, Cervisia, etc. Why has this stuff been left out? David Johnson

Re: Double Standard?

2000-01-31 Thread David Johnson
Terry Dawson wrote: > > David Johnson wrote: > > > I didn't check for every GPL application that uses Qt, only one example > > is sufficient. The package licq 0.44-4, in stable, uses the Qt library, > > along with being licensed under the GPL. It does not have a

Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-31 Thread David Johnson
etary. Certainly someone could take my BSD source, compile it, and distribute it binary only. However, those binaries still have my license on them and the recipients have the right to redistribute them themselves. As an example, Solaris includes a lot of BSD utilities. I, as a user of Solaris, have the right to take the BSD utilities and redistribute them. David Johnson

Re: Double Standard?

2000-01-31 Thread David Johnson
h legal pronouncements and banishment? Or was someone sloppy by including licq? Is there a double standard? WTF? David Johnson

Re: Was Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-31 Thread David Johnson
onal clarification (or redundancy, depending on point of view) that there would still be other reasons not to include it in contrib or main. David Johnson

Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-29 Thread David Johnson
es. The purpose of the GPL is not to avoid the middle ground. The reason most BSD developers choose the BSD license is precisely because it isn't restrictive. They have shared their code with everyone, neither asking nor expecting anything in return. It is no insult to them if it is used in GPL or proprietary code. What *IS* an insult to them is this constant preaching about freedom by those advocating more restrictions. David Johnson

Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-29 Thread David Johnson
havior. > > > > As long as we're all slamming on each other here, and calling each > > other "moronic idiots", and "outrageous", and slurring on each other's > > manners... > > Errh, just for clarification, I was not calling anyone a moronic idiot :-). And I don't believe I was slamming RMS by praising his exemplary manners. David Johnson