Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2021-09-29 at 18:59 -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > Would you be willing to revert your commit that bumped the visibility > [1] until we can figure out a better way to proceed? Reverted. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-29 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Paul, On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 5:54 PM Sean Whitton wrote: > > I agree, and would like to see the new tag downgraded below the W: > level. Taking great pride in the fact that Lintian is team-maintained, I am reluctant to act here. Would you be willing to revert your commit that bumped the

Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-29 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sun 12 Sep 2021 at 07:07PM +01, Simon McVittie wrote: > I see lintian has recently started emitting warnings for packages that > have autopkgtests, but only superficial autopkgtests. I think this is > counterproductive. > > Obviously, if a package can have reliable autopkgtests that

Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-13 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 at 16:50:03 -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > As a side note, the old tag to which you seem attached took a stance > against superficial tests. I think the text of its recommendation to maintainers was written before the special handling of the "superficial" restriction was

Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-12 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 3:27 PM Simon McVittie wrote: > > the first of those is the new missing-tests-control, and I would > agree with making it an error. Done. It is now an error. [1] I'll note that the condition is somewhat artificial. It would probably be better to declare all testing

Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, 2021-09-12 at 23:27 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > I don't think it makes sense for the new superficial-tests to be considered > worse (= higher severity) than the old testsuite-autopkgtest-missing. I was initially thinking of cases were the package is perfectly possible to test properly

Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-12 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 at 13:49:35 -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > Either way, the project relies here on the fact > that having a meaningful testsuite may provide a faster migration from > unstable to testing. I think there might be some misunderstanding here. Tests that are marked with

Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-12 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 1:17 PM Simon McVittie wrote: > > If that's the case, I would have expected it to be emitted for packages > that have absolutely no autopkgtest coverage You are right! The tag is issued when 'Testsuite: autopkgtest' was declared in d/control but no d/tests/control is

Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-12 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 at 12:48:36 -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 11:09 AM Simon McVittie wrote: > > > > lintian has recently started emitting warnings for packages that > > have autopkgtests, but only superficial autopkgtests. > > The tag was implemented in response to

Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-12 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 11:09 AM Simon McVittie wrote: > > lintian has recently started emitting warnings for packages that > have autopkgtests, but only superficial autopkgtests. The tag was implemented in response to Bug#932870. [1] It was originally suggested on OFTC#debci by dkg (who

Bug#994139: lintian: warning about superficial autopkgtests is counterproductive

2021-09-12 Thread Simon McVittie
Package: lintian Version: 2.105.0 Severity: normal X-Debbugs-Cc: debian...@lists.debian.org, Paul Wise I see lintian has recently started emitting warnings for packages that have autopkgtests, but only superficial autopkgtests. I think this is counterproductive. Obviously, if a package can have