Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-04-06 Thread Steven Robbins
On Saturday, April 6, 2024 7:39:10 A.M. CDT Michael R. Crusoe wrote: > On 29/03/2024 19.44, Steven Robbins wrote: > > I am left with a question whether [reactively dropping troublesome > > architectures] is what you are proposing, or > > whether you mean to preemptively restrict the architectures

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-04-06 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
On 02/04/2024 07.54, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, Am Mon, Apr 01, 2024 at 09:12:49PM +0200 schrieb Sascha Steinbiss: New packages that aren't "Architecture: all": 1. Add "architecture-is-64-bit" and "architecture-is-little-endian" to the "Build-Depends" list in "debian/control". Nice, didn't

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-04-06 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
On 30/03/2024 01.00, Diane Trout wrote: On Thu, 2024-03-28 at 14:51 +0100, Michael R. Crusoe wrote: Like all policy proposals, this is not meant to be a hard rule for all time. We can and should revisit the issue later! What do you think of the policy being instead of "-med team packages

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-04-06 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
On 29/03/2024 19.44, Steven Robbins wrote: On Thursday, March 28, 2024 8:51:01 A.M. CDT Michael R. Crusoe wrote: Therefore I personally conclude that: Support Debian-Med packages for 32-bit and/or big-endian architectures is not a good use of our limited resources. I am left with a question

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-04-06 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
On 29/03/2024 07.21, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, I'm personally fine with Michaels suggestion in general. :+1: Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 10:13:40AM +0530 schrieb Nilesh Patra: On 28 March 2024 7:21:01 pm IST, "Michael R. Crusoe" wrote: There are also packages inside debian med umbrella

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-04-06 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
On 29/03/2024 05.43, Nilesh Patra wrote: On 28 March 2024 7:21:01 pm IST, "Michael R. Crusoe" wrote: Alas this is an involved process. If we have to do it a lot, it would be nice if someone writes a tool to automate any aspect of the above! --- Fweh, that's a long email. Please do share

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-04-06 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
On 01/04/2024 21.12, Sascha Steinbiss wrote: Hi all, first of all thanks Michael for this idea and also for the elaborate proposal email that outlines the intended way to go quite well. Thanks! [...] Support Debian-Med packages for 32-bit and/or big-endian architectures is not a good

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-04-06 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
On 28/03/2024 14.51, Michael R. Crusoe wrote: Dear colleagues and users, [snip] Fweh, that's a long email. Please do share your feedback here and on the Debian-Med Matrix channel for instant discussions: https://app.element.io/#/room/#debian-med:matrix.org Thank you all for the thoughtful

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-04-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Mon, Apr 01, 2024 at 09:12:49PM +0200 schrieb Sascha Steinbiss: > > > If there is agreement with this, then I would like an amend the > > Debain-Med team policy to make it clear that we, as a community of > > package maintainers and users, are okay with removing support for 32-bit > >

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-04-01 Thread Sascha Steinbiss
Hi all, first of all thanks Michael for this idea and also for the elaborate proposal email that outlines the intended way to go quite well. [...] Support Debian-Med packages for 32-bit and/or big-endian architectures is not a good use of our limited resources. Agreed. [...] However, I

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-03-29 Thread Diane Trout
On Thu, 2024-03-28 at 14:51 +0100, Michael R. Crusoe wrote: > > Like all policy proposals, this is not meant to be a hard rule for > all time. We can and should revisit the issue later! What do you think of the policy being instead of "-med team packages MUST support all current Debian

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-03-29 Thread Steven Robbins
On Thursday, March 28, 2024 8:51:01 A.M. CDT Michael R. Crusoe wrote: > Therefore I personally conclude that: > Support Debian-Med packages for 32-bit and/or big-endian architectures is > not a good use of our limited resources. I've used that as a personal policy for years. In my case, I

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-03-29 Thread Andrius Merkys
Hello, On 2024-03-29 06:43, Nilesh Patra wrote:> There are also packages inside debian med umbrella which are not necessarily related to medicine or bioinformatics. These include some general purpose python packages, some C/C++ libraries et. al. There are packages that reverse-depend on the

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Charles, Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 03:48:07PM +0900 schrieb Charles Plessy: > > For the moment it would be easy to make sure at least new r-bioc-* > > packages are restricted to the said architectures by adding this to > > dh-r. > > I fully agree. I've pushed an (only weakly tested) patch to

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2024-03-29 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Hi, On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 07:21:27AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 10:13:40AM +0530 schrieb Nilesh Patra: > > On 28 March 2024 7:21:01 pm IST, "Michael R. Crusoe" > > wrote: > > >and on the Debian-Med Matrix channel for instant discussions: > >

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-03-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 07:21:27AM +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit : > > For the moment it would be easy to make sure at least new r-bioc-* > packages are restricted to the said architectures by adding this to > dh-r. I fully agree. By the way the next Bioconductor is scheduled for May 1st,

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I'm personally fine with Michaels suggestion in general. Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 10:13:40AM +0530 schrieb Nilesh Patra: > > > On 28 March 2024 7:21:01 pm IST, "Michael R. Crusoe" > wrote: > > There are also packages inside debian med umbrella which are not necessarily > related to

Re: Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-03-28 Thread Nilesh Patra
On 28 March 2024 7:21:01 pm IST, "Michael R. Crusoe" wrote: >Alas this is an involved process. If we have to do it a lot, it would be nice >if someone writes a tool to automate any aspect of the above! > >--- > >Fweh, that's a long email. Please do share your feedback here There are also

Debian-Med policy proposal: 64-bit & little-endian only* for new packages

2024-03-28 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
Dear colleagues and users, I would like to propose a change to the Debian-Med team policy: https://med-team.pages.debian.net/policy/ Given that: 1. The package maintainers in the Debian-Med community are volunteers, and all of us have many other demands of our time 2. Debian-Med is targeting