Re: Is sid recommended?

2003-02-26 Thread Jesus Climent
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:08:08AM +0100, Volker Sturm wrote: Hi, if I want to get into software development for Debian: Is it recommended to stay with stable or upgrade to sid? Basically depends on your target audience: * Stable is in bug-fixes mode only, so no new software will get into it,

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread Xavier Roche
My other questions have to do with what I should read to learn how to properly debianize this package. As far as I know it is free-ware, but may end up under non-free. For debianization: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ To ensure that the software is free:

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:41:14AM -0500, Kevin J. Kalupson wrote: There is a biology/bio-informatics package which I would like to add to debian. Interesting :) I have easily installed this package under woody and would like to know what steps I should take to turn this piece of

Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, Is there a right way for using the source of a different debian-package? I've checked the archives, but I only found http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2001/debian-mentors-200103/msg00253.html which is a little bit dated and without really positive outcome. The best suggestion was

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Hello, Is there a right way for using the source of a different debian-package? For ocaml, i supply an ocaml-source package for other folk to use it. I've checked the archives, but I only found

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:42:21PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Is there a right way for using the source of a different debian-package? For ocaml, i supply an ocaml-source package for other folk to use it. Hello, That's the

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, I'd like to move this discussion to the exim4debian ml. On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 02:23:41PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: If you're wondering: The package in question would be exim v4 with the exiscan patch applied. - It cannot simply be built from the exim4 source-package because the

Question to -doc packages

2003-02-26 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
Hi. Situation: A program is provided in three archives, one for the source, one for the documentation in html (~3MB), one for the documentation in postscript (~2,3MB). How would you package this? One binary package and one with all the documentation or two seperate -doc packages? Greetings,

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 02:15:11PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:42:21PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Is there a right way for using the source of a different debian-package? For ocaml, i supply an

Re: Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi. pbuilder has a login feature that allows me to get a shell inside the chroot, but I'm not sure how to get my package in there. I can copy it in from outside, but I belive the location of the chroot changes every time. It looks like all the hooks get called inside the chroot, so I suspect

Re: Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:31:57AM -0800, Brett Cundal wrote: pbuilder has a login feature that allows me to get a shell inside the chroot, but I'm not sure how to get my package in there. I can copy it in from outside, but I belive the location of the chroot changes every time. It looks

Re: Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread John Belmonte
Brett Cundal wrote: pbuilder has a login feature that allows me to get a shell inside the chroot, but I'm not sure how to get my package in there. I can copy it in from outside, but I belive the location of the chroot changes every time. It looks like all the hooks get called inside the chroot, so

Re: Testing pbuilt packages

2003-02-26 Thread Brian Nelson
Brett Cundal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:22:51AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Volker Sturm wrote: if I want to get into software development for Debian: Is it recommended to stay with stable or upgrade to sid? If you have to ask,

Re: Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread John Belmonte
Michael Banck wrote: Seriously, with a nice net connection you can setup another (not compressed) chroot with debootstrap in a matter of minutes for testing stuff. One thing I like about pbuilder is that changes you make while in the shell are effectively discarded upon exit. With the persistent

Re: The magic of debconf - can I avoid a second run of config?

2003-02-26 Thread Craig Small
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 06:27:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: Lately F-Prot has started offering their own deb, but it is rather broken. Therefore I think that the f-prot-installer package still has a reason to exist. Have you talked to them about it? A good responsive upstream can make all

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread Kevin J. Kalupson
Checking the license on some software the I would like to add. Does this copyright meet the debian requirements. I'm thinking this package would end up in non-free if it does qualify. /*** Copyright Notice */ The ARB software and documentation are not in the public

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Is there a right way for using the source of a different debian-package? Look into apt-src if you are interested in developing this kind of idea. The source-dependency approach has many pitfalls, and is not something that is

Re: Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread Graham Wilson
[cc'ing colin so that maybe he will add something to his page about dchroot.] On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 06:19:46PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:31:57AM -0800, Brett Cundal wrote: Is there some other way to handle this automatically? Yeah: get a decent chroot ;)

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread Xavier Roche
Kevin J. Kalupson wrote: Checking the license on some software the I would like to add. Does this copyright meet the debian requirements. Not the Debian Free Software Guidelines would end up in non-free if it does qualify. if it does not, it can/will end up in non-free This release of the ARB

A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread Kevin J. Kalupson
There is a biology/bio-informatics package which I would like to add to debian. I have easily installed this package under woody and would like to know what steps I should take to turn this piece of software into a deb. My first question is Am I writing to the correct list?. If I am not

Is sid recommended?

2003-02-26 Thread Volker Sturm
Hi, if I want to get into software development for Debian: Is it recommended to stay with stable or upgrade to sid? Regards, Volker Sturm -- Volker Sturm +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread David Grant
Kevin J. Kalupson wrote: There is a biology/bio-informatics package which I would like to add to debian. I have easily installed this package under woody and would like to know what steps I should take to turn this piece of software into a deb. My first question is Am I writing to the correct

Re: Is sid recommended?

2003-02-26 Thread Jesus Climent
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:08:08AM +0100, Volker Sturm wrote: Hi, if I want to get into software development for Debian: Is it recommended to stay with stable or upgrade to sid? Basically depends on your target audience: * Stable is in bug-fixes mode only, so no new software will get into it,

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread Xavier Roche
My other questions have to do with what I should read to learn how to properly debianize this package. As far as I know it is free-ware, but may end up under non-free. For debianization: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ To ensure that the software is free:

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:41:14AM -0500, Kevin J. Kalupson wrote: There is a biology/bio-informatics package which I would like to add to debian. Interesting :) I have easily installed this package under woody and would like to know what steps I should take to turn this piece of

Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, Is there a right way for using the source of a different debian-package? I've checked the archives, but I only found http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2001/debian-mentors-200103/msg00253.html which is a little bit dated and without really positive outcome. The best suggestion was

Re: Is sid recommended?

2003-02-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Volker Sturm wrote: if I want to get into software development for Debian: Is it recommended to stay with stable or upgrade to sid? If you have to ask, stay with stable. You can use pbuilder to build unstable packages. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Hello, Is there a right way for using the source of a different debian-package? For ocaml, i supply an ocaml-source package for other folk to use it. I've checked the archives, but I only found

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:42:21PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Is there a right way for using the source of a different debian-package? For ocaml, i supply an ocaml-source package for other folk to use it. Hello, That's the

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Simon Richter
Andreas, If you're wondering: The package in question would be exim v4 with the exiscan patch applied. - It cannot simply be built from the exim4 source-package because the patch is released more often than exim itself (current-version is already 4.12-24). Hrm, what does it need the patch

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, I'd like to move this discussion to the exim4debian ml. On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 02:23:41PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: If you're wondering: The package in question would be exim v4 with the exiscan patch applied. - It cannot simply be built from the exim4 source-package because the

Question to -doc packages

2003-02-26 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
Hi. Situation: A program is provided in three archives, one for the source, one for the documentation in html (~3MB), one for the documentation in postscript (~2,3MB). How would you package this? One binary package and one with all the documentation or two seperate -doc packages? Greetings,

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 02:15:11PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:42:21PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Is there a right way for using the source of a different debian-package? For ocaml, i supply an

Re: Question to -doc packages

2003-02-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 03:53:06PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: Hi. Situation: A program is provided in three archives, one for the source, one for the documentation in html (~3MB), one for the documentation in postscript (~2,3MB). How would you package this? One binary package and one

Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread Brett Cundal
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:22:51AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Volker Sturm wrote: if I want to get into software development for Debian: Is it recommended to stay with stable or upgrade to sid? If you have to ask, stay with stable. You can use pbuilder

Re: Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi. pbuilder has a login feature that allows me to get a shell inside the chroot, but I'm not sure how to get my package in there. I can copy it in from outside, but I belive the location of the chroot changes every time. It looks like all the hooks get called inside the chroot, so I suspect

Re: Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:31:57AM -0800, Brett Cundal wrote: pbuilder has a login feature that allows me to get a shell inside the chroot, but I'm not sure how to get my package in there. I can copy it in from outside, but I belive the location of the chroot changes every time. It looks

The magic of debconf - can I avoid a second run of config?

2003-02-26 Thread Johannes Rohr
Hello, due to filing too many bug reports I have been coerced ;-) to take over maintainership of the f-prot-installer package in contrib. The package is intended to install the F-Prot for Small Business virus scanner which is availabe at http://www.f-prot.com/getfplinfree.html Lately F-Prot has

Re: Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread John Belmonte
Brett Cundal wrote: pbuilder has a login feature that allows me to get a shell inside the chroot, but I'm not sure how to get my package in there. I can copy it in from outside, but I belive the location of the chroot changes every time. It looks like all the hooks get called inside the chroot,

Re: Testing pbuilt packages

2003-02-26 Thread Brian Nelson
Brett Cundal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:22:51AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Volker Sturm wrote: if I want to get into software development for Debian: Is it recommended to stay with stable or upgrade to sid? If you have to ask,

Re: Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread John Belmonte
Michael Banck wrote: Seriously, with a nice net connection you can setup another (not compressed) chroot with debootstrap in a matter of minutes for testing stuff. One thing I like about pbuilder is that changes you make while in the shell are effectively discarded upon exit. With the

Re: The magic of debconf - can I avoid a second run of config?

2003-02-26 Thread Craig Small
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 06:27:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: Lately F-Prot has started offering their own deb, but it is rather broken. Therefore I think that the f-prot-installer package still has a reason to exist. Have you talked to them about it? A good responsive upstream can make all

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread Kevin J. Kalupson
Checking the license on some software the I would like to add. Does this copyright meet the debian requirements. I'm thinking this package would end up in non-free if it does qualify. /*** Copyright Notice */ The ARB software and documentation are not in the public

Re: The magic of debconf - can I avoid a second run of config?

2003-02-26 Thread Johannes Rohr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Small) writes: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 06:27:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: Lately F-Prot has started offering their own deb, but it is rather broken. Therefore I think that the f-prot-installer package still has a reason to exist. Have you talked to them

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread David Lloyd
Kevin, --- # Debian Free Software Guidelines 2. 1 Source Code The program must include source code, and must allow distribution in source code as well as compiled form.--- * http://www.debian.org/social_contract The copyright you posted doesn't say anything about this. You'd have to make

Re: Is sid recommended?

2003-02-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:08:08AM +0100, Volker Sturm wrote: if I want to get into software development for Debian: Is it recommended to stay with stable or upgrade to sid? Like most other things, there is a tradeoff here which depends on what your needs are. If you're developing software ON

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Is there a right way for using the source of a different debian-package? Look into apt-src if you are interested in developing this kind of idea. The source-dependency approach has many pitfalls, and is not something that is

Re: Testing pbuilt packages (Was: Is sid recommended?)

2003-02-26 Thread Graham Wilson
[cc'ing colin so that maybe he will add something to his page about dchroot.] On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 06:19:46PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:31:57AM -0800, Brett Cundal wrote: Is there some other way to handle this automatically? Yeah: get a decent chroot ;)

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-02-26 Thread Xavier Roche
Kevin J. Kalupson wrote: Checking the license on some software the I would like to add. Does this copyright meet the debian requirements. Not the Debian Free Software Guidelines would end up in non-free if it does qualify. if it does not, it can/will end up in non-free This release of